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seeric 03-23-2005 12:33 PM

(must Read) You, We I, All Of Us Are Fucked If....................
 
we don't take our futures into our own hands.

today, the SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION announced that in the year 2041, the entire SS system bank account will be $0. Medicare announced that in the year 2020, their accounts will be bankrupted.

thanks alot US GOV.

so, since smart kids like me are taking matters into our own hands does that mean that i get back the money taken unwillingly from every paycheck since i was 16, or can i just infinitely consider it a felony theft on the government's part. considering that i am mostly american indian, and this country was stolen from my people anyhow, i'm kinda pissed off about this. not only is the entire history of this country built on a lie that is taught to our kids in schools every year, now they are just gonna blatantly steal money from its citizens?

is george bush out of his fucking mind? and what is his cure for this? he says for everyone to go and start their own retirement account. wow, genius. i'm glad that your dad's hard earned money didn't go to waste on all that schooling to learn you to solve our problems with solutions like that.

What it means to you.

If you are a 38 year old american, you will receive 0 years of SS benefits.
If you are a 37 year old american, you will receive 1 years of SS benefits.
If you are a 36 year old american, you will receive 2 years of SS benefits.
If you are a 35 year old american, you will receive 3 years of SS benefits.
If you are a 34 year old american, you will receive 4 years of SS benefits.
If you are a 33 year old american, you will receive 5 years of SS benefits.
If you are a 32 year old american, you will receive 6 years of SS benefits.

and so on......

and as far as medicare goes. forget about it if you are over 20 years old.

FUCK THIS! i am thankful that i have already started taking steps to take my hard earned cashola out the hands of our bumbling administration.

follow or be left to wrinkle and rot on the streets while your administrators continue to buy hookers and all expense paid trips to exotic islands with your hard earned retirement money.

:mad:

After Shock Media 03-23-2005 12:36 PM

Do not belive everything you hear.

jawanda 03-23-2005 12:36 PM

"If you are a 38 year old american, you will receive 0 years of SS benefits.
If you are a 37 year old american, you will receive 1 years of SS benefits.
If you are a 36 year old american, you will receive 2 years of SS benefits.
If you are a 35 year old american, you will receive 3 years of SS benefits.
If you are a 34 year old american, you will receive 4 years of SS benefits.
If you are a 33 year old american, you will receive 5 years of SS benefits.
If you are a 32 year old american, you will receive 6 years of SS benefits."


Uhh .. I feel your anger. But doesn't something seem backwards with your chart here?

Sosa 03-23-2005 12:38 PM

yeah, fuck all that damn shit all together. Let me keep all that cash that gets took out of checks or that i pay in taxes. If they peple that will get it, then let them pay that shit in.

seeric 03-23-2005 12:38 PM

Yeah I Put The Ages Backwards> Hahahahahahahahaha


BASICALLY, if you are 34 you have around 4 years of bennis.

so calculate it from there. i got pissed while writing and messed it up.

pornstar2pac 03-23-2005 12:38 PM

I'll be in the Caribbean in 2041 somking weed and getting sunburned

fl_prn_str 03-23-2005 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord of the fungi
Do not belive everything you hear.


This is TRUE......Didnt we have a SURPLUS during the CLINTON Admin?

so what we need to do to FIX THE SYSTEM is to have a DEMOCRAT in the White House.......then between 2 to 4 years later....pooof......a SURPLUS....Amazing isnt it?

Honez 03-23-2005 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jawanda
"If you are a 38 year old american, you will receive 0 years of SS benefits.
If you are a 37 year old american, you will receive 1 years of SS benefits.
If you are a 36 year old american, you will receive 2 years of SS benefits.
If you are a 35 year old american, you will receive 3 years of SS benefits.
If you are a 34 year old american, you will receive 4 years of SS benefits.
If you are a 33 year old american, you will receive 5 years of SS benefits.
If you are a 32 year old american, you will receive 6 years of SS benefits."


Uhh .. I feel your anger. But doesn't something seem backwards with your chart here?

I caught that too.

After Shock Media 03-23-2005 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fl_prn_str
This is TRUE......Didnt we have a SURPLUS during the CLINTON Admin?

so what we need to do to FIX THE SYSTEM is to have a DEMOCRAT in the White House.......then between 2 to 4 years later....pooof......a SURPLUS....Amazing isnt it?

The big reason why it is "broke" is the Government keeps borrowing from it and well never paying it back. If the money was hands off come budget time then there would be one hell of a less of a problem.

KRL 03-23-2005 12:41 PM

Charlie Ponzi invented the "pay the old investors with the new investors" scheme and the US Government has been using it extremely well for decades.

Hard to imagine people don't get what a total con job the SSA has been since its inception.

And to add insult to injury the congress has been pilfering the money for years.

http://www.innovationodyssey.com/images/Ponzi.jpg

seeric 03-23-2005 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fl_prn_str
This is TRUE......Didnt we have a SURPLUS during the CLINTON Admin?

so what we need to do to FIX THE SYSTEM is to have a DEMOCRAT in the White House.......then between 2 to 4 years later....pooof......a SURPLUS....Amazing isnt it?


that surplus was spent on the republican national convention. they go through more hookers and 500 dollar hammers than the dems.

actually, they probably spent it on the war without telling us.

Kimmykim 03-23-2005 12:42 PM

Apparently you are reading the Bush administrations assessment of the Social Security system.

Which is blatantly slanted towards privatization and not really all that true.

Doctor Dre 03-23-2005 12:42 PM

Your chart does not make any sence

fl_prn_str 03-23-2005 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord of the fungi
The big reason why it is "broke" is the Government keeps borrowing from it and well never paying it back. If the money was hands off come budget time then there would be one hell of a less of a problem.


Thats why Al Gore should have been President.........

Remember he was going to put that in a "lock box"....... :1orglaugh

seeric 03-23-2005 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre
Your chart does not make any sence


yes.

please see post #5

you are about my age too bro, maybe younger, which would mean you get 0.

kimmy, aren't you somewhere around my age too?

i don't care who's version it is, basically, i am trying to say that people can no longer, and should have ever trusted our government to handle their retirement.

i remember my grandparents in the 80's talking about SSA collapsing and i didn't give a shit at age 12 or 15, didn't even know what it was at the time.

LOL. damn chocolate chip cookies and paste i ate in elementary school killed all my brain cells. LOL

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-23-2005 12:52 PM

Bottom line they are taking our money.

StuartD 03-23-2005 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K
yes.

please see post #5

you are about my age too bro, maybe younger, which would mean you get 0.

Yes, but he's also Canadian :winkwink:

MandyBlake 03-23-2005 12:54 PM

this is what happens when republicans are in control...

marzzo 03-23-2005 12:58 PM

it doesn't matter folks, Jesus will be back soon to make it all right :thumbsup

seeric 03-23-2005 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
Bottom line they are taking our money.


my point exactly.

while we're on it, i also love that we can help any other country in the world, but our own. with the money we have spent in outher countries, we could have a reformed healthcare system like canada, where no american would have to pay ridiculous hospital bills causing hardship on families and making many americans homeless every year.

turn your blind eye all you want, the united states is one big enron crash waiting to happen.

pornRefinery 03-23-2005 02:13 PM

One huge fucking pyramid scheme :)

bringer 03-23-2005 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fl_prn_str
This is TRUE......Didnt we have a SURPLUS during the CLINTON Admin?

so what we need to do to FIX THE SYSTEM is to have a DEMOCRAT in the White House.......then between 2 to 4 years later....pooof......a SURPLUS....Amazing isnt it?

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/...linton.social/

you're all idiots
i guess its only wrong coming out of bush's mouth

MikeHawk 03-23-2005 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K
my point exactly.

while we're on it, i also love that we can help any other country in the world, but our own. with the money we have spent in outher countries, we could have a reformed healthcare system like canada, where no american would have to pay ridiculous hospital bills causing hardship on families and making many americans homeless every year.

turn your blind eye all you want, the united states is one big enron crash waiting to happen.


A1R3K...why worry?
The sky is not falling yet!
Working within the internet world wide market place gives me such freedom to move and go where ever I please, if I dont like what is going on here, see ya.

That is thought seems to be coming closer and closer every day. I will snap a pic of my family and friends on a beach in Costa Rica when we get there for good!

Cheers! :pimp

Babagirls 03-23-2005 02:21 PM

looks like its time to start investing in my own retirment plan, kinda already started (but on a small level).

Kimmykim 03-23-2005 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K
kimmy, aren't you somewhere around my age too?

i don't care who's version it is, basically, i am trying to say that people can no longer, and should have ever trusted our government to handle their retirement.

Frankly I think anyone who trusts their government to handle their retirement needs their head checked for starters.

Nydahl 03-23-2005 02:22 PM

US is fucked up anyway - my bet is that you kill yourself

seeric 03-23-2005 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bringer
http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/...linton.social/

you're all idiots
i guess its only wrong coming out of bush's mouth


all politicians and the U.S. Corporation (thats government for those who don't understand that the GOV is the biggest biz in the world), are criminals. i never said clinton did a good job, i only said that repubs spend more money on hookers and luxuries. but they're all losers in my book, losers who have undermined the american people for 100's of years in benefit of their own personal agendas and financial cains of the special interest groups.

Babagirls 03-23-2005 02:23 PM

by the way, does this mean that we should just withdrawl the money we already have invested in our social security (while its still there)? lol

seeric 03-23-2005 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kimmykim
Frankly I think anyone who trusts their government to handle their retirement needs their head checked for starters.


LOL. not my point. don't you want back the money you have had to pay from all your other jobs before you got into the internet where we all get 1099?

i would think so.

i don't trust anyone to do anything for me in life but me. shit, sometimes i don't even trust myself.

i'll be in costa rica with mike, or in toronto with elissa and tanker and derek and allthe other heads before long. haven't decided which yet. i am singel, so i can move to the damn moon as long as i have an uplink to work.

:)

bringer 03-23-2005 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K
all politicians and the U.S. Corporation (thats government for those who don't understand that the GOV is the biggest biz in the world), are criminals. i never said clinton did a good job, i only said that repubs spend more money on hookers and luxuries. but they're all losers in my book, losers who have undermined the american people for 100's of years in benefit of their own personal agendas and financial cains of the special interest groups.

people keep bringing up the "surplus" under clinton and how great he was when in fact he proposed the same thing bush is. all this shows is its not the message they disagree with but the person relaying it. i think you could read some of bushs plans to these people under the name clinton and theyd agree with and probably support them. repubs spend money on hookers, dems spend money on illegals and their extended families. it all evens out in the end.

Veterans Day 03-23-2005 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bringer
people keep bringing up the "surplus" under clinton and how great he was when in fact he proposed the same thing bush is. all this shows is its not the message they disagree with but the person relaying it. i think you could read some of bushs plans to these people under the name clinton and theyd agree with and probably support them. repubs spend money on hookers, dems spend money on illegals and their extended families. it all evens out in the end.

:winkwink: :winkwink:

bringer 03-23-2005 02:39 PM

what happened? no more bush bashing on this issue?

fl_prn_str 03-23-2005 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bringer
http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/...linton.social/

you're all idiots
i guess its only wrong coming out of bush's mouth


arguing with republicans is futile.....they also think the "war" is a necessary evil.

bringer 03-23-2005 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fl_prn_str
arguing with republicans is futile.....they also think the "war" is a necessary evil.

im not a republican
i just get annoyed seeing people bitching about this issue and trying to pin it on bush. clinton is one of many dems who proposed this over the years but only now that bush is pushing it does it become a stupid idea that is going to ruin america. i really dislike bush but these rants are never ending with feel good dems trying to get others to agree with them that bush is a bad guy so they can continue to feel good about posting on gfy.

fl_prn_str 03-23-2005 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bringer
im not a republican
i just get annoyed seeing people bitching about this issue and trying to pin it on bush. clinton is one of many dems who proposed this over the years but only now that bush is pushing it does it become a stupid idea that is going to ruin america. i really dislike bush but these rants are never ending with feel good dems trying to get others to agree with them that bush is a bad guy so they can continue to feel good about posting on gfy.


Ok...never said you were...but anyways.....Not too many people remember what the fuck Clinton said outside of....

I didn?t sleep with....that women......Mon....

Due to the fact the republican?s didn?t like him due to getting oral in the oval office. So he did say it was in need of servicing.....but not as bad as TODAY since the "war" co$t$ lots of $$$. Personally I think the war is a diversion for whatever the republicans want.......

Patriot Act....Approved
$50 Billion for War.....Approved......

I think Lara Bush could propose a socialist "style" health care reform and everyone would go along with that as well......but didn?t Hillary Rodham do that before as well......hummmmmm..... :2 cents:

smack 03-23-2005 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K
is george bush out of his fucking mind?


in a word, yes.

bringer 03-23-2005 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fl_prn_str
Ok...never said you were...but anyways.....Not too many people remember what the fuck Clinton said outside of....

I didn?t sleep with....that women......Mon....

Due to the fact the republican?s didn?t like him due to getting oral in the oval office. So he did say it was in need of servicing.....but not as bad as TODAY since the "war" co$t$ lots of $$$. Personally I think the war is a diversion for whatever the republicans want.......

Patriot Act....Approved
$50 Billion for War.....Approved......

I think Lara Bush could propose a socialist "style" health care reform and everyone would go along with that as well......but didn?t Hillary Rodham do that before as well......hummmmmm..... :2 cents:

it might of been a diversion at some point, but now everything bush does is attacked. im sure if he wipes wrong 15 newpapers will bash him for it the next morning.
ps. hillary is a dumb bitch :321GFY

seeric 03-23-2005 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bringer
im not a republican
i just get annoyed seeing people bitching about this issue and trying to pin it on bush. clinton is one of many dems who proposed this over the years but only now that bush is pushing it does it become a stupid idea that is going to ruin america. i really dislike bush but these rants are never ending with feel good dems trying to get others to agree with them that bush is a bad guy so they can continue to feel good about posting on gfy.

doesn't matter if its a DEM or a REPUB, this situation would still be facing us. if not in 2041 maybe eralier maybe later, who knows. the point of my post is that this country is being driven into a lake. my prediction is that this country will collapse sometime around the year 2050. it can't last much longer. the economy can't keep milking people who can't afford the cost of living in their parts of the country as it is.

the american people can only pay for so many mistakes. what then after they've used up all the tax dollars and SSA and reserves? raise taxes? to what limit? how long before the government gets 70% of regular peoples salaries for the "privelege" to live in such a great country.

have you forgotten that all you, we, and us, are the devil to the real devils?

all the pronographers in the world, don't equal one nasty ass politician. they steal, lie, and pilfer under the guise of the american dream and play above the law.

i've had it with this place. moving plans are in progress. gotta decide where. give me suggestions. of the 20 or so countries i have been to, i am leaning towards

Brasil
Costa Rica
Toronto

fl_prn_str 03-23-2005 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bringer
it might of been a diversion at some point, but now everything bush does is attacked. im sure if he wipes wrong 15 newpapers will bash him for it the next morning.
ps. hillary is a dumb bitch :321GFY


Yes, they attacked him as they did Clinton. Hell I would rather have Bob Dole in Office.....at least he knew who he was......I'm Bob Dole....and Bob Dole Says.....

As for Hillary.......Blame New York State for that one......

fl_prn_str 03-23-2005 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K
doesn't matter if its a DEM or a REPUB, this situation would still be facing us. if not in 2041 maybe eralier maybe later, who knows. the point of my post is that this country is being driven into a lake. my prediction is that this country will collapse sometime around the year 2050. it can't last much longer. the economy can't keep milking people who can't afford the cost of living in their parts of the country as it is.

the american people can only pay for so many mistakes. what then after they've used up all the tax dollars and SSA and reserves? raise taxes? to what limit? how long before the government gets 70% of regular peoples salaries for the "privelege" to live in such a great country.

have you forgotten that all you, we, and us, are the devil to the real devils?

all the pronographers in the world, don't equal one nasty ass politician. they steal, lie, and pilfer under the guise of the american dream and play above the law.

i've had it with this place. moving plans are in progress. gotta decide where. give me suggestions. of the 20 or so countries i have been to, i am leaning towards

Brasil
Costa Rica
Toronto


raise taxes.......republicans would never go for that at least not for the wealthy.... :1orglaugh

bringer 03-23-2005 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K
i've had it with this place. moving plans are in progress. gotta decide where. give me suggestions. of the 20 or so countries i have been to, i am leaning towards

Brasil
Costa Rica
Toronto

st martin :thumbsup
ps, avoid the dutch

power182 03-23-2005 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fl_prn_str
This is TRUE......Didnt we have a SURPLUS during the CLINTON Admin?

so what we need to do to FIX THE SYSTEM is to have a DEMOCRAT in the White House.......then between 2 to 4 years later....pooof......a SURPLUS....Amazing isnt it?

Okay, I agree with you that this needs some attention but get off the Bush administration about this one. This started about 70 years ago, under FDR a Democrat, when the programs where first established under the great depression. It was never meant to pay people, but to earn extra cash flow for the federal government; why do you think the age of 65 was chosen to start payouts, it?s because that was the avg life expectance back then. This has nothing to do with the surplus or deficit, they are separate funds. Before you start giving solutions please read the history behind it and educate yourself on solutions.

yuvalus 03-23-2005 03:12 PM

I lost you in the "year 2041" part

power182 03-23-2005 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K
doesn't matter if its a DEM or a REPUB, this situation would still be facing us. if not in 2041 maybe eralier maybe later, who knows. the point of my post is that this country is being driven into a lake. my prediction is that this country will collapse sometime around the year 2050. it can't last much longer. the economy can't keep milking people who can't afford the cost of living in their parts of the country as it is.

the american people can only pay for so many mistakes. what then after they've used up all the tax dollars and SSA and reserves? raise taxes? to what limit? how long before the government gets 70% of regular peoples salaries for the "privelege" to live in such a great country.

have you forgotten that all you, we, and us, are the devil to the real devils?

all the pronographers in the world, don't equal one nasty ass politician. they steal, lie, and pilfer under the guise of the american dream and play above the law.

i've had it with this place. moving plans are in progress. gotta decide where. give me suggestions. of the 20 or so countries i have been to, i am leaning towards

Brasil
Costa Rica
Toronto


Toronto isn't a country :)

seeric 03-23-2005 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by power182
Toronto isn't a country :)

damn. there goes all that money my parents never spent on my education.

shit. oh well, at least i can dj and get paid 1000 bucks for 2 hours if i have to.

seeric 03-23-2005 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bringer
st martin :thumbsup
ps, avoid the dutch


yeah, it's pretty much lookin like costa rica.

lots of shelter there. ;)

Doctor Dre 03-23-2005 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K
yes.

please see post #5

you are about my age too bro, maybe younger, which would mean you get 0.

kimmy, aren't you somewhere around my age too?

i don't care who's version it is, basically, i am trying to say that people can no longer, and should have ever trusted our government to handle their retirement.

i remember my grandparents in the 80's talking about SSA collapsing and i didn't give a shit at age 12 or 15, didn't even know what it was at the time.

LOL. damn chocolate chip cookies and paste i ate in elementary school killed all my brain cells. LOL

I'd get 0 if I was american ... but I'm canadian . And I'm gonna die too young to get some of that change anyways

Mr. Pat 03-23-2005 04:03 PM

bush sucks dead monkey balls

websiex 03-23-2005 04:26 PM

I have a plan to save social security, but the American government doesn't like change. There have been two parties controlling this country since its beginning, which is absurd. There needs to be major political change in the country for anything good to happen for the people. Both the Democrats and the Republicans are for the rich, yet people still vote for these two parties. It is understandable to vote Democrat since they preach they are for the people, and understandably are more people-oriented than Republicans, but the fact is that both parties are not in it for the people.

There must be another party entered as competition. The party can't be extreme left, or extreme right as all other American third parties are. It must be moderate-radical; sadly, this won't ever happen because the two party monopolists also control the American media.

Whew, sucks to be us.

seeric 03-23-2005 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by websiex
I have a plan to save social security, but the American government doesn't like change. There have been two parties controlling this country since its beginning, which is absurd. There needs to be major political change in the country for anything good to happen for the people. Both the Democrats and the Republicans are for the rich, yet people still vote for these two parties. It is understandable to vote Democrat since they preach they are for the people, and understandably are more people-oriented than Republicans, but the fact is that both parties are not in it for the people.

There must be another party entered as competition. The party can't be extreme left, or extreme right as all other American third parties are. It must be moderate-radical; sadly, this won't ever happen because the two party monopolists also control the American media.

Whew, sucks to be us.


i agree with you on the need for a third party. but i believe what you really need to do is get the special interest fuckers out of the government. there will always be corruption in all government and in any country, but here it is blatantly tolerated. the american people know that these assholes are stuffing their pockets with special interest money for votes on laws that ultimately fuck over the american people. meanwhile, everyone sits by and watches the healthcare system get more fucked up, the drug market get more expensive and unattainable for the elderly, and housing on a decent street becomes out of the question for even a household that makes 150k a year, and don't get me started on gas prices. i think that no matter who is in there, its not the politicians making laws, its big business. they have so much money to buy the laws the way they want them and the politicians fuck the people in the ass as much as they will take it.


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