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What do you guys think of this redesign? No ads
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looks nice
if it won't load toooo long it would fit... make a version with ads though to judge how well it really looks... |
looks good, but what about the ads?
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looks good
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Yeah, again, this is a work in progress. But the point here is that we're doing a MAJOR reduction of the number of ad spots on CJ and we're playing w/ not having any adds at all on the home page.
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i think it looks sharp
a top banner spot would be hot and ofcourse a link to weed.com on 4/20 when i drop the new layout over there would be pretty fucking sexy as well |
Time to stop whorring the site out and get back to the roots.
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Looks good
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Here's a few more peeks:
http://www.cjtraffic.com/anwar/recen...list-view.html http://www.cjtraffic.com/anwar/recen...pics-view.html http://www.cjtraffic.com/anwar/recen...ideo-list.html http://www.cjtraffic.com/anwar/recen...ideo-view.html Again, work in progress!!! |
Smart :)
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I love the new layout..
I can still remember the very first one you guys did.. |
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That can sometimes be a very wise thing :thumbsup Ivy |
i like the darker colors. the text stands out more.
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I know I'm kinda new around here, but writing for the web is what I do so I hope it's okay to throw in my six cents (inflation). Love the look and the colors, but if the page at the top of this thread is the home page - that's a lot of text for a home page. Well, actually, it's the combo of the text and the graphics - not just from a loading perspective but just from a "wow all this stuff to read" view.
Though I gotta say, blogs have changed the way people read on the web. Used to be you couldn't get anyone to read more than a paragraph per page but that seems to be changeing...so that's my 'for what it's worth'. Cyn |
I like it!
Maybe the left column in too blurred tho. |
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that being said.. cj guys, i fucking love it...i think it looks awesome.. |
I'm usually not pleased by many site designs, but I really like this one!
Fits the style of your site well, and I love the cartoony header section. I like it way more than the current one, Good job :thumbsup |
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Stay with the old one.
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I think your hitting the nail on the head as far as branding with the redesign! My only complaint would be that the stencil font on the left navigation menu seems a little too squished.
Thats a bold approach to cut down on the ads, especially on the front page. Most people do the opposite, start the site with few or no ads and then once the traffic builds up they fill the page until you can't see anything else (about.com, stile <choke>.) Minimizing the ads definately keeps surfers happy.. |
Looking good Rick
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I like what buddy wrote.
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too dark IMHO
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I really like the layout, sharp and easy on the eyes without many distractions.
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looks great rick!
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Looks nice. I like it clean like that.
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I think the new design look great.
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I've never visited your site before...
A quick first look comparison is that your new design is much better, however I would suggest including a few eye candy pix to hook surfers right away, and also make the paragraphs smaller (more paragraph breaks - easier on the eye, and it makes people more inclined to read, and keep reading). ADG Webmaster |
I like it. Simple, easy, and to the point.
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It most certainly did not. You, sir are full of shit. I can say this while I'm still researching trying to figure out who you are because I KNOW this couldn't have happened. We have NEVER done anything like that. I REALLY try not to lose my temper but your cowardly little accusations are the most offensive thing I have ever experienced. I have BUSTED my ass to build a solid reputation as a straight-up businessman since I started this site in April of 1999.
If you are an unhappy customer why not, just for shits and giggles, talk to me? I'm the person you would have bought from since I handle all the sales. It's not like I'm hard to get in touch with. I have the longest signature on earth because it contains every way known to man to reach me: Marc Womack Chief Operating Officer www.CJTRAFFIC.com 404.808.3187 (mobile) 404.759.2731 (fax) AIM: marcwomack ICQ: 64425641 MSN Messenger: [email protected] Yahoo Messenger: marcfromCJ Skype: marcwomack [email protected] So if you've got a problem I'm certain that you could have gotten in touch with me if you'd chosen to. Instead, you make a post like that? Let me ask you something? If we were the shady fuckers you accuse us of being would we still have a client list like this: 4cfnm AdultActionCam AdultCheck AdultFriendFinder AdultPayMaster AdultSky AEBN AllBlondePics AmateurAllure AmateurCreamPies AwesomeAshley Belmont Big Hitters BigBoobLinks BikiniBanger BizarreCamGirls BlueLight BoyGirlBang BrutalDildos Buck4aFuck CaliSexLive CamClub24 CamMatrix CatalinaCruz CDSmith chicktrainer.com Clips4Sale DigitalDevil DirtyDanza DirtyDirector dollars4babes DukeDollars DVD Empire DXMachine Electronic-Group EpornClips ExplicitVoyeurs Fantasymatch FasterBucks FatPayChecks Fleshlight FreeAdultSexDates FreeAdultsLinks FreeOnes FS4A GetKongNow Gleemonized GorillaNation Guba Hardcore-X-Movies Heavy HerbalO HHInternet HotWifeRio HPIC Imarket IncestCartoons Incomps InterMax Intermeds Inubix Jokaroo KellyMadison LandofVenus LiveJasmin LiveJasmin MainstreamDollars MakeBling MarianDesign MCM Enterprises MeatCash Meatholes.com MicaWest MNMMarketing MP3DownloadHQ MyFreePaySite MyPrivateToyBox NaughtyAllie NaughtyAtHome NaughtyHolly NetMark NetVia NextDoorCash NicheWealth OCCash OnlineGreek PacificVentures PartyPoker Pecain PerfectGonzo PersonalCLips PillsReview PimpPorn PornDollar POV Porn ProjectVoyeur QuickBuck RainMaker Ventures SexOnTheSide SexSearch ShemaleClub Signup4Cash SirRodney SleazyBeaver Southern-Charms Special Ops Media StarshipTitus Streamray Sweet Entertainment thebestporn.com the-female-orgasm TLAVideo TotemCash TrafficCashGold USAMinutes Velvet Ecstasy VideoPass VideoPass VigRX Vortex WankTool WebTalent WifeysWorld XXXContentDirect xxxposedentertainment.com Let me be very clear on this. You are a coward. I VERY seriously doubt you'll have the balls to continue this mockery. But I IMPLORE you to try. Please, enlighten everyone here to what horrible people we are. Bring your proof. TRY and back up your claims. I keep records like the IRS. I've got every email from and to every customer we've ever had. Same for IM conversations. Give me a little to go on and I'll DAMN sure show you and EVERYONE here how full of shit you truly are! |
oh my, posting shit like that accusation is really fucking lame unless you have proof, and you know what if something did happen dont air fucking dirty ass laundry here in a public form.. if you got a beef with someone call them up, email them let them know but to post it in public thats just no class :(
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Sorry to let this guy hijack what was a very helpful and productive thread for me. I'm doing the redesign on CJ and I REALLY appreciate all the input. Once I put this guy down, please continue.
Anway, I found the only contact I've ever had w/ this guy. He talked to me about buying ads. Chat transcript below. Again sorry for providing so much info but I take accusations like that VERY seriously. Also, if you don't feel like reading the whole thing, PLEASE scroll to the bottom for the transcript of the conversation I just had with him. Long story short, the guy says we fucked over a "buddy" of his but he can't provide any proofs, any facts, nothing. I've invited him to have his "buddy" post his claims here in a public forum. We'll see if he has the balls. So, here's my only contact w/ this Fris character: Session Start (marcwomack:fris DOT net): Fri Apr 09 06:35:23 2004 fris DOT net: hi marcwomack: hello fris DOT net: i saw your post on gfy about traffic marcwomack: right on, what site(s) are you looking to promote? fris DOT net: just my tgp marcwomack: what's the URL? fris DOT net: gagmovies.com marcwomack: hmm, maybe my connection here, but loading very slowly w/ broken images fris DOT net: hrmm i dont see any broken images marcwomack: yeah, I refreshed and it came up fine marcwomack: I'm down in Panama right now setting up a new programming/design company. we're using this city-wide wi-fi wireless connection fris DOT net: ahh fris DOT net: my friend just setup the wifi for via rail canada on the trains marcwomack: kewl. well, there's a lot of options for advertising. What kind of a budget are you looking at? fris DOT net: well i wanted to just start out at the 10,000 hits see what kind of conversions i get see if i want to buy more marcwomack: prefer banners or text links? fris DOT net: what converts the best? marcwomack: no real difference. so long as the banners you supply match you site fris DOT net: or would it be better to use a sponsor for 10,000 hits is that what prople normally do like topbucks? marcwomack: no, we won't sell you ads to promote other programs. you won't be able to make a profit that way fris DOT net: cause i thoughts that what the deal was on the cjtraffic page you place your sponsor on the page marcwomack: no, site owners buy my traffic marcwomack: our pricing is based on what we can make as affiliates marcwomack: but we get higher payouts than your average joe and we know our traffic better than anyone marcwomack: so you wouldn't be able to make a profit buying ad spots just to send to sponsor Session Close (fris DOT net): Fri Apr 09 15:36:24 2004 Session Start (marcwomack:frisDOTnet): Sun Apr 25 11:29:07 2004 frisDOTnet: msg me when u are around about the servers we have a cage up in toronto *** Auto-response sent to frisDOTnet: I am currently away from the computer. Session Close (frisDOTnet): Sun Apr 25 21:27:04 2004 Session Start (marcwomack:frisDOTnet): Thu Jul 29 12:17:11 2004 frisDOTnet: hi marcwomack: yo Session Close (frisDOTnet): Thu Jul 29 12:17:49 2004 Session Start (marcwomack:frisDOTnet): Thu Jul 29 12:17:56 2004 frisDOTnet: whatsup frisDOTnet: if you are busy i can contact you later? marcwomack: no, now is fine marcwomack: I'm always busy :) marcwomack: what can I do for ya? frisDOTnet: i wanna get some advetising marcwomack: where you wanna send the traffic? frisDOTnet: can i send the traffic to a program? marcwomack: depends marcwomack: which program? marcwomack: not to one of the ones that we're hitting heavily frisDOTnet: traffic cash gold please bang my wife? marcwomack: nope, sorry bro, that's top of the no-no list. marcwomack: we're absofuckinglutely KILLING it with traffic cash gold marcwomack: we just took a huge pre-pay deal from them marcwomack: them, silvercash, platinumbucks, dollarmachine, and topbucks are off limits frisDOTnet: ahh ok marcwomack: honestly bro, as much as I'd love to do more sales money, it just doesn't make sense to buy from us to send to a program marcwomack: all our pricing is based on what we can do by doing that marcwomack: problem is the guy that handles that in our company has been doing it for 3 years. Our payouts are prolly higher than what you would get and he knows our traffic better than anyone on the planet marcwomack: it's DAMN hard to make a profit at my pricing by sending to the programs frisDOTnet: well what should i be doing with the traffic? sending it to my paysite? marcwomack: the programs are the ones buying b/c they can make more money off the traffic than they'd pay us on as an affiliate marcwomack: absolutely frisDOTnet: how does the text links convert? marcwomack: same as any other spot marcwomack: seriously, that' s the cool thing about my ad spots marcwomack: they all convert the same frisDOTnet: well i dont know your conversions :) marcwomack: all depends on where you're sending it frisDOTnet: my bros gfs paysite naughtyjenn amateur site marcwomack: our metric is 1/500. if we send 10K clicks to a site and it does 1/501 then we stop sending it marcwomack: amateur does very well for us marcwomack: wifeysworld.com, karadavis.com, naughtyathome.com marcwomack: naughtyallie.com marcwomack: cathyscraving.com frisDOTnet: i just wanna know if i will make my money back or am i gonna lose it marcwomack: what's the url frisDOTnet: (Link: http://www.naughtyjenn.com)www.naughtyjenn.com marcwomack: hmm marcwomack: hot chick marcwomack: looks like good amateur site marcwomack: tours is a bit week marcwomack: no sample vids marcwomack: if you could get those 3 thumbs of vids to link to 30 second vid clips, then you'd do pretty well marcwomack: I'd do video sponsorships with this type of content marcwomack: instead of banners or text links marcwomack: (Link: http://www.cjtraffic.com/ad_vids.htm...m/ad_vids.html frisDOTnet: little bit out of my price range frisDOTnet: can you send traffic to a gallery? marcwomack: yes marcwomack: but I don't have pricing on it right now marcwomack: We base all our pricing on how many clicks the spot generated the month before. But this month we made a huge change and probably tripled the traffic going to our TGP sections. So I have to wait until the end of the month to figure out the pricing. The pricing usually averages out to around 1.25 cents a click to the gallery frisDOTnet: wouldnt it be just a text link say on steakdandcheese then link that to the gallery? marcwomack: ah marcwomack: haven't ever tried that marcwomack: thought you meant in our TGP section marcwomack: I've got some relatively inexpensive text link spots marcwomack: what kind of budget were you looking at? frisDOTnet: well what do you have? marcwomack: 2 weeks of Rotating Text Links on CJ for $1600 frisDOTnet: thats not inexpensive :) marcwomack: is by our standards marcwomack: minimum to do anything is $1000 frisDOTnet: it says 300$ for text link on steak and cheese marcwomack: yes, so you'd have to buy 4 weeks as minimum :) dude don't forget, I'm pricing this for what we can make off it. if the deal is less than $1000, it's just not worth the time frisDOTnet: i think i will wait then marcwomack: understood man. I know we're expensive. Session Close (frisDOTnet): Thu Jul 29 13:39:25 2004 Session Start (marcwomack:frisDOTnet): Thu Dec 23 16:33:04 2004 frisDOTnet: can you only buy 1 week of text links? or do you have to buy more than 1 week marcwomack: no, plenty, week is just the shortest increment I sell frisDOTnet: so i can buy a week now? frisDOTnet: i run a lesbian blog and have been looking for the right converting traffic and no one has been able to help me out marcwomack: by now do you mean to run this week? marcwomack: I'd steer clear of that b/c of the holidays marcwomack: but yeah, you can buy now to reserve early January frisDOTnet: well ya i meant i would like to try it a week i dont want to buy a month if its not goin gto work marcwomack: yeah, no worries, what's the URL of the site? frisDOTnet: how welld o you think it will convert my site is (Link: http://www.richsnob.com)www.richsnob.com marcwomack: hmm marcwomack: you'd need to get a lot of bookmarkers frisDOTnet: ya marcwomack: well, the challenge is we'd have to come up w/ at least 2K worth of ads. I won't do a campaign for less than 2K frisDOTnet: ya i was just looking at a week of text ads not something like 2k marcwomack: yeah, that's prolly gonna kill it. It's just that we sell them for what we can make by sending to the affiliate programs. so for us it's not worth it unless it's at least 2K frisDOTnet: ahh ok marcwomack: :( Session Close (frisDOTnet): Thu Dec 23 16:48:44 2004 My conversation w/ him tonight is in the next post. I exceeded the 10K character limit GFY allows in one post. |
Now, here's my chat log w/ the guy tonight:
Session Start (64425641:fris): Wed Mar 16 22:17:59 2005 consumptionjunction: hey there chief, what's w/ all the static on GFY? fris: which monkey from cj is this? consumptionjunction: The founder, Marc consumptionjunction: Man, I don't know what your problem is, but I'm have NO idea where you're coming from. Perhaps you could enlighten me? fris: so people have good campaigns running you see them doing kick ass. you dont like them making money so you switch their linking codes with yours. consumptionjunction: Yeah, I understood the accusation. Of course it's bullshit. What I want to know is where the you get this idea? consumptionjunction: I've searched high and low. I can't see that you've ever bought a campaign from us. consumptionjunction: I do see we discussed some things a few months ago fris: a friend bought an add an its happen twice. and was not refunded even tho he was said to be consumptionjunction: Oh, a friend. So you make accusations without personal experience. Smart. And I guess you wouldn't be willing to let me know who this friend is so I could confront him/her about the lies he/she is spreading? fris: he buys from gts, cybercat and you. but made me think why not to trust you consumptionjunction: No man, you've gone way further than not trusting us consumptionjunction: lets concentrate on your for a second. consumptionjunction: Frankly, I'm pissed as fuck at you. I'm reviewing our IM logs about you possibly buying ads a long time ago consumptionjunction: I was straight up with you then. consumptionjunction: I even told you "so you wouldn't be able to make a profit buying ad spots just to send to sponsor programs " fris: yes and i have known this guy for years he has no reason to lie consumptionjunction: I actually turned down your business because I didn't think you'd make a profit fris: he was actually making money on his ad when you switched his linking code consumptionjunction: Now regardless of how long you've known this other person, you SHOULD NOT go around making accusations like that without knowing first-hand what you're talking about. consumptionjunction: I seriously doubt we'll ever agree on that point so lets move on to your friend. I'm fairly certain you know my opinion of you and your accusations and how you conduct yourself. fris: i am not accusing i am just saying facts consumptionjunction: What facts? consumptionjunction: what proof? consumptionjunction: PLEASE consumptionjunction: tell me, show me. fris: that you like to fuck with peoples campaigns consumptionjunction: yeah, heard that the first time consumptionjunction: that's not a fact consumptionjunction: a fact is on this date this happened consumptionjunction: Lets start w/ who your friend is? fris: i am not naming names unless i get his permission. even if i do. are you willing to refund him? consumptionjunction: Get your permission. I SERIOUSLY doubt you'll get it because I'm 110% positive the person in question is full of shit. I'm not going to promise a refund when I have NO idea what we're talking about. I've done business with 100's of companies. So I will promise to look into whatever the beef is. If I find something that warrants a refund I'll grant it. I will NOT find what you are accusing us of because it has NEVER happened and never will. I will NOT issue a refund just to hush someone up. If your friend doesn't have the BALLS to contact me directly I doubt very seriously he/she has any proof to back up his claims. But I WELCOME the chance to defend ourselves. I also STRONLGLY encourage this happens in a Public forum. As I said we've got NOTHING to hide. consumptionjunction: The thread you hijacked on GFY would do nicely fris: this person was cheated he paid good money and you fucked with his campaign. consumptionjunction: You keep repeating accusations with NO facts. Sorry, but I'm losing my temper here. Back it up or shut the fuck up. fris: are you getting angry? consumptionjunction: I'm trying hard not to, try and reverse the situation. I go on a public forum and say you have a 2 inch penis. You say bullshit, prove it. I say you have a 2 inch penis. You say show me the proof, what facts do you have? I say you have a 2 inch penis. Or actually, to be more accurate, I'd have to say I "heard" you had a 2 inch penis from a buddy. consumptionjunction: No response huh. We'll let me get to posting this all on GFY. Again, unlike your buddy, I've got nothing to hide. The challenge stands. If you or your buddy are so certain we did these things, prove it. Hell, a start would be to have your buddy tell me who he is. That's really all I need. I keep every email, every IM. I'll gladly post the entire history and all communication between myself and your buddy on GFY. Whoever he/she is. And just in case you guys choose not to come forward, let me make something very clear. I will vehemetly defend any accusations of this nature going forward. I will make it absolutely clear to anyone and everyone that I welcome the chance to defend myself. The result of this is quite simple: if you accuse and can't back it up or choose not to, you will be the one who looks like you're full of shit and shady. fris: i am getting in touch with him consumptionjunction: thank you. for what it's worth, I understand where you're coming from. If a close friend said something like that, I'd be likely to believe him too. consumptionjunction: but I also stick to my guns on the fact that we've never done anything like that and it's really out of line for you to take pot shots like that. You should be a man about it and contact me directly if you've got a beef. You should also be a friend to your friend and tell him to be a man about it and contact me directly. But since you've chosen to take this to a public forum, I suggest we coorespond publically so everyone is out in the open from here on. |
I've got a conference call so I'll scope this thread tomorrow. Anyone that wants to contact me knows how :)
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