Dont you hate it when you sign up using you ref code
 

and the sign up never appears in your stats :mad:

I only hate it when people start threads like this and dont mention the sponsor.

a lot of sponsors shave.
nothing to wonder about.

What do you think the average shave % is?

How the hell should he know that.

what he said

post the sponsor name or stfu

adult-industry-shaving-standards.com

if the conversions turn to shit, its time to drop the sponsor

:1orglaugh

btw i agree name the sponsor

I'd say about 25%-35%

I've heard some guess much higher.

this is an interesting thread

fucking-around-and-business-discussion/440280-stop-profitable-sponsors-sales.html

back in 2001 / 2002 period i did about 15+ test signups with ARS not ONE went through.

Those were the days.

It was a AFF

I signed up for a free membership and nothing showed up on my stats. then I look at my stats and see this:

3/1/2005 141 60 1 $19.95 2M, 0F $ 0.60 41% $ 0.00 $ 8.19
3/4/2005 90 59 0 $0.00 0M, 0F $ 0.00 0% $ 0.00 $ 0.00
3/5/2005 58 44 0 $0.00 0M, 0F $ 0.00 0% $ 0.00 $ 0.00

wtf happend to 3/2/2005 and 3/3/2004 ?

Granted I dont send alot of traffic to them, but wtf. :(

if a sponsor is going to shave.. atleast they should have a X value that you have to hit first before they start shaving.. this way it would make it harder to notice.. :-/

Im starting to think no one can be trusted in this business. :helpme

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It took you this long to find out?

lol Im guessing at one point you thought someone could be trusted ? :)

I have to 3rd that.... call them out or else this thread is useless :Oh crap


Ivy

If you read the thread you would have seen who :helpme

the best thing to do is chargeback!

Yea it sucks when that happens :1orglaugh

AFF - Read next time :winkwink:

that sucks bro

Sucks to hear that, it is just the reality of the industry.

each program have different percenttage

do they use nats?

I'd drop that sponsor right away.

NATS programs don't shave or should I say can't (no control over code)

And honestly most programs don't need to shave. Some will reclaim sales from returning visitors. Like realitycash.com do and this is fine cause if they are paying $25-35 on tiny trials they need to take those extra cookie sales themselfs to stay in business. You make most of the money cause your getting paid $35 per signup. Recurring programs will give you those cookie return customers but won't make you as much overall as PPS sponsors cause recurring almost never makes as much even after 8 months of rebills.

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in case you missed it

i dont know how AFF works or credits sales, so...maybe someone from them will comment here?

2houseplague might be able to

will someone please tell me who AFF is ????

She traded partial vision for a nice set tits -- even trade I would say.

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Just a quick thought here.. not to rain on your parade, but in regards to your 'signup'..

Was this a full blown pull-out-the-credit-card gold membership AFF signup, or were you clicking through and just adding an email address?

I only ask, because if it's the latter, not the former, is it possible that you triggered their anti-fraud systems?

It would make sense to me...

Its been proven on many occasions this just isnt the case..

I would bet my left nut that realitycash does NOT shave.

That being said recently realitycash fhg's were being redirected to 10dollarcash sites. Hits were tracked by nats but no sales as the page being displayed was not a nats site.

Now in this case it was a mistake , but any program could do the exact same thing and make it almost impossible to tell.

AFF check signups manually, so it could be a few days before signups appear in your stats...

Keep in mind that some affiliate tracking works differently accross sponsors. Not many sponsors use the same software, and most is custom written.
I have provided security & fraud infomation to a lot of businesses here, including mainstream and adult companies.

Some things that may have triggered your "test signup" not to show in your stats are:

- Free or paid signup?
- Delayed Statistics?
- Did you use a females name on the CC and select you are male? or vice versa?
- Did you signup from the SAME IP as that you logged into the affiliate area with?
- Are you already a member? Same email used? Same CC# ? Maybe a combination.
- What country did you purchase from?
- What country is your CC based in?
- What ZIP/Postcode code did you use?
- Your signup may be "pending" in their database for one of the above reasons

Of course there are many many more reasons that could contribute to your test not appearing - I would be happy to discuss this with anyone - that is what I charge for :)

Chances are you were screened, not shaved. You'd be a fool to try and shave in this business today - it is so much easier to do business the upfront and honest way.

Every company needs, and should have an above average fraud control system, and/or someone moniterring fraud to come capacity. There is nothing worse than having an abundance of refunds and chargebacks that you have paid out on. If you don't have anything like this in place, or would like to upgrade your current solution, hit me up - fraud control is what I do =)