tell me why i shouldnt buy a $1000 espresso machine
 

been lurking espresso sites forever and i want a new one, pls tell me i dont need it, every damn 2-3 yrs these machines explode due to calcium, theyre messy, expensive and i buy espresso outside anyhow... but i love them lol

anyhow else here into that?

i like good coffee, havent gotten into espresso yet

Check out the Phillips Senseo Single Coffee Maker, its like $75 and though its not expresso maker, its does make a nice very strong cup... :pimp

If you have some money to spend why not

dont get one cuz it costs $1,000 lol
if you wanna blow that much money on something, go buy something better than an over-rated coffee maker :upsidedow

uhm that thing was invented here in holland, its just a new way of making coffee, not anywhere near espresso... buts its cool true

there are very good ones around 500$ (i got one from delonghi) very good machine!

tell me why i shouldnt buy a $1000 espresso machine..

coz you can get a cheaper one?

cuz you don't fucking need one!

I have Saeco S-Class Incanto Deluxe, it was pretty expensive (over 1000E) but I love it and my gf does a great coffee :)

We have been looking at getting one for the office
they seems to make good coffe:)

ok delonghi is a diff kinda class, saeco is a topnotch brand, unfortunately the quality isnt, theyre around 500 (starting) and i know at least 5 ppl having them and having trouble, its all plastic, aluminum brewery group, so with the calcium here thats 2 yrs and gone

im lookin at a jura now, theyre quality and used in pubs as well, ive had a manual machine, 3 to be honest, but im tired of the crap they produce, 1 min coffee making and 15 mins cleaning

id love to get an ECM like this, they look great, but they need maintainence every damn day, lube the seals, clean everything etc etc, plus they start at $2k, without a grinder, you need one too...

http://www.ecm-espresso.it/product/IMAGE/Gio1.jpg

you've got to much time on your hands =)

lol hey its 1000 bucks... yeah weird uh its easier to spend 1k on a ring for my gf then for a machine like that... thing is i abosufuckinglutely hate it when i pay like 1k for that and it turns out to be shit...

$1000....shit if you don't know what to do with your money give it to charity instead blowing it in overpriced crap...

allready doing that :thumbsup

because u can buy 50 whores with that price

Just get it...I have one it's awesome.

cool what kinda do you have?

I did buy it...... money down the drain... it is soooo bad that if you love expresso it is not for you. :2 cents:

i could tell you anything, but i have one, love it, use it every day... :thumbsup

that senseo thing is one big marketing invention, the machine itself is crap its just a coffee maker for lazy ppl, so they invented the pads (prolly existed)

they even sued some companies who remade the pads, they sell them everywhere now, the coffee is crap, they give fancy names to it, but coffee is coffee if you put it in a coffee maker. They even have an alu version for 200 bucks, complete waiste of money.

Ppl think they can spend 200 and get a decent espresso machine, but they cant. Anything that doesnt produce 15 bar pressure and uses real arabica coffee doesnt make espresso, thats bout it.

Hey some ppl spend 1000 on shoes i spend it on coffee :)

Go for it, nothing compares to a good cup of coffee :thumbsup

For that price the store you buy it from should provide servicing and cleaning if you bring it back in... Ours does.

I bought a $900 SAECO italia, it was pretty awesome at first but now
the coffee always tastes gross.

i tried to clean it for like 3 hours too..

i dont know if i have the wrong beans or what but ive wound up
just going back to starbucks for espresso

i dont know if i believe that it is going to explode in 3 years and if
so wouldnt they have to replace it?

OMG that is to much money for a coffee machine!!!!

I can think of a million other things to spend it on.

What if you find a nice antique one to just show off or something since you really wouldnt be using it any. LOL you said you mostly buy the coffee outside the house anyways.

go2starbucks and save your money.

One, you won't use it as much as you think you will. Two, you won't be able to make it "as good". Three, you will not save enough money making it yourself to justify not buying it down the street to make back you 1k.

Buy the fucker. You will never sleep properly again. HAd one in an old office; a german job that grinds the beans etc etc shit hot espresso at the touch of a button. I was caffeine wired for that whole six months.

Buy a La Pavoni, very "manual" but makes excellent coffee! :thumbsup

like i said they are cool but quality sucks, i know some ppl who got them, the seals are shitty quality, thats what happened prolly with yours too. The calcium gets it and if you dont lube them, they start leaking, normally outside the brewery part, so the water comes out.

Theres no such thing as wrong beans btw, what CAN happen is when you move the grinding scale from fine to finer, a bean gets stuck and damages the grinder, but as long as you buy arabica (the greasy feeling beans) you should be ok, dont go for regular beans, they wont get the crema (the yellow thick creme on top of the coffee).

Take it to the shop, if its within warrenty theyll replace the seals, if not its like $150-200

i love that thing, id just buy it for the looks, but it takes ages to master to get a ok kinda espresso and its a damn dangerous machine. The 15 bar pressure is only controlled by a screw on cap on the top, i know a guy whos kid opened that and didnt unpressure it first thus got 15 bar steam in his face and got burned terribly... but i agree its the most beautiful machine made

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P...2.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Go Krups, they are truely the best. :2 cents:

Run some white vinegar through your machine every coupla weeks. That should help the calcium deposits.

(Just in case you don't do that already :))

err krups is the biggest crap you can buy, all aluminium and very low quality housing, brewery group etc etc, i know because i had 2, the milk froth part is rubber, a heaven for bacteria... no thanks :2 cents:

Am I the only one who dislikes coffee, espresso, ect.?

hmm i know they say that here too, thing is most machines have a manual that states thatll ruin the machine and loses warrenty, but youre right its a good and cheap way... i hate to buy those 5 bucks a piece tablets

hey i drink tea too :)

hmm


buy it if you need it

Actually, I drink tea but can't stand coffee.

Yeah, I think this is a good investment ! :thumbsup

Why not buy a good DeLonghi (sp?) at a quarter of the cost and put the money saved toward a good water purification system (around $1k-$1.5k). That way your new expresso machine along with washing machine, dishwasher hot water tank will last oh, about 5 times longer :winkwink:
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I love that reason :)

You won't save money buying it ... but ifyou got money and want something cool, go ahead

wish thats possible, thats not allowed here (sounds dumb i know), i know these systems, even sold them for boats, but like i said cant do that and since weve got seawater here calcium is a big problem...

no but you have fun with that

I've been looking into it quite a lot lately since I will buy one soon. I will get an Incanto from Saeco since it has the new 12gr brew group, the only ones that has it... what I've seen at least. The other full auto espresso machines has only a 9gr brew group.

Saeco Incanto Sirius

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Saeco Incanto Rondo SBS

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http://www.best-of-italy.com/ has the best price on them.

Well I did go out buy a new one. that did do it as I like it it did not cost 1000 only hafe... :2 cents:
http://www.thebeanery.com.au/Media/innovachrome2.jpg

it is a INNOVA ESPRESSO Dream

please please please do yourself a fav and read the comments on these machines, they look great but the brew groups are crap, most ppl say they use the same as jura does but thats not true, both gaggia and saeco look great, but read what the other guy said, 2 yrs and broken, they cost a lot and arent worth it...

thats a great machine but im lookin for a full automatic...