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BJ 02-23-2005 11:34 PM

Interesting: STOP RECURRING
 
new response code from certain banks allowing people to knowingly sign up for recurring shit and not allowing it to recurr without cancelling.

WWC 02-23-2005 11:36 PM

huh...can you explain or post a link to source on where you heard this?

DA2 02-23-2005 11:37 PM

You are saying that certain merchant account no longer can auto rebill?

mrthumbs 02-23-2005 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PureMeds
new response code from certain banks allowing people to knowingly sign up for recurring shit and not allowing it to recurr without cancelling.

As in a user signs up for a recurring service only for you to find out they cancelled that option at the bank's end? Wouldnt that just mean you just get a decline?

tungsten 02-23-2005 11:38 PM

some more info and links would be great

DA2 02-23-2005 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrthumbs
As in a user signs up for a recurring service only for you to find out they cancelled that option at the bank's end? Wouldnt that just mean you just get a decline?


Sure a decline on the first rebill attempt.
I do not think this will effect those using 3rd party processing based in the us. Not YET anyway.

BJ 02-23-2005 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultLoungeRaffi
huh...can you explain or post a link to source on where you heard this?


different banks have different response codes to transactions. This one in particular is apparent that his cc company allows for him/her to signup for something and make the decision with his bank and not the merchant whether or not it recurrs. Similar to virtual cc numbers where you can set the expiration date.

I don't know if it's new, just the first time Ive seen that response code.

BJ 02-23-2005 11:42 PM

boils down to virtual cc#'s generated by your cc provider intended for online transactions where you set how far the merchant can go instead of the merchant offering disclosure.

BJ 02-23-2005 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DA2
You are saying that certain merchant account no longer can auto rebill?

not at all, it is not left up to the consumer if it can rebill. They can decide at the POS.

BJ 02-23-2005 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrthumbs
As in a user signs up for a recurring service only for you to find out they cancelled that option at the bank's end? Wouldnt that just mean you just get a decline?

yep decline without even a retry.

BJ 02-24-2005 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DA2
Sure a decline on the first rebill attempt.
I do not think this will effect those using 3rd party processing based in the us. Not YET anyway.


uh... think again. It means NO MORE.

BJ 02-24-2005 12:04 AM

mbna has a toolbar for this shit btw

DA2 02-24-2005 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PureMeds
uh... think again. It means NO MORE.

So you are saying they do not even let a trial ONE TIME CHARGE go thru?

BJ 02-24-2005 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DA2
So you are saying they do not even let a trial ONE TIME CHARGE go thru?


the trial goes through, but the retry attempts on the failed recurring are stopped dead. You can set this function in some cc's admin.

Its like signing up for a free cell phone with a cc and then telling your cc you dont authorize future billings from the merchant even though you have an (implied) contract.

BJ 02-24-2005 12:32 AM

here ya go

http://www.twistedstone.com/cc.JPG

DA2 02-24-2005 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PureMeds
the trial goes through, but the retry attempts on the failed recurring are stopped dead. You can set this function in some cc's admin.

Its like signing up for a free cell phone with a cc and then telling your cc you dont authorize future billings from the merchant even though you have an (implied) contract.


This is exactly what I said here. On the first REBILL attempt :)


Sure a decline on the first rebill attempt.
I do not think this will effect those using 3rd party processing based in the us. Not YET anyway.

BJ 02-24-2005 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DA2
This is exactly what I said here. On the first REBILL attempt :)


Sure a decline on the first rebill attempt.
I do not think this will effect those using 3rd party processing based in the us. Not YET anyway.

are you retarded?

DA2 02-24-2005 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PureMeds
are you retarded?


If you say so.
Please explain it to me in retard terms. Trail goes thru but the first REBILL is denied.


What am I missing smart man?

BJ 02-24-2005 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DA2
If you say so.
Please explain it to me in retard terms. Trail goes thru but the first REBILL is denied.


What am I missing smart man?

:1orglaugh

seer 02-25-2005 04:43 AM

Anybody have any questions about this let me know.

imafuckingaussie 02-25-2005 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PureMeds
are you retarded?

:1orglaugh

EscortBiz 02-25-2005 04:51 AM

hey pure nice to see you back

ThumbWolf 02-25-2005 05:02 AM

Simple. In your terms, define a "period" of time, that they are allowed to cancel within, that they must do it manually. If they do not cancel within that amount of time "manually", they are liable for the rebill charge. If it gets declined @ the bank. Dispute it and show them your terms, or simply manually charge them. Maybe invoice them. Whatever, send it to collections, the point is that you should define the "period" of time in which they must cancel manually.


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