an idea for partnership programs and paysites
 

ok, here is my idea:

there is people promoting the paysites with all kinds of different traffic sources. why not give the option to the webmaster what kind of signup method to choose?

some types of traffic would be more profitable when you send to a non-trial signup page, and some would do better on a free or 3$-5$ trial signup page.
also you can give different options for the cost of the membership. like $20-$30-$40 per month for example. and the promoter gets to choose which one.
for example, if you get really high quality traffic, you can send your visitors to a $40/mo no-trial signup page. or if you think you have too many freeloaders, you can send them to a free trial page and make the profit from the people who forget to cancel their memberships.

i am not sure if this can cause any problems, but i believe it can make things more profitable.

this idea is of course for partnership programs, not pay-per-signup.

Lane

I think it sounds like a pretty good idea. I wouldn't mind that option...

That's a cool idea, but it would have to be done as different front-ends on different domains for each site. If a surfer paid $40/month and then looked at the join page later and it was $20/month he'd be pissed off. Either he'd quit your site for good or he'd quit and signup again for the cheaper price (which would suck for the referring webmaster).

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SlutBunnies - $30/sale, bitch.

doesnt sound to bad, just got to crunch the numbers and see if its possible to do something like that...

The FTC would be all over that unless you offer different content for each price level.

I would have to dissagree.. Heres a term.."Buyer Beware" Theres no law that says you have to sell the same or similar products for the same price.


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I agree, why would the FTC care?

Many things such as cars, plane tickets, hotel rooms, real estate, are almost always sold to different people at different prices...There's no law against that.

You can make a join page with this options:

If your income is over 5k$/month Signup here(49.95)
If your income is 3k signup here (39.95)
If your income is 2k signup here (29.95)

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Tell Bausch and Lomb that: http://consumerlawpage.com/article/lenses.shtml

Heheheh why stop there, why not ask for govt/state subsidies? http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/biggrin.gif

We have that,works pretty well.You can choose from offering a Free trial,a paid trial,or no trial option. People using the free trial otion are making the least money,rebills are not near as good as paid trial or no trial memberships. Also have bannerless freehosting with it. Check the sig

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if you don't have income? http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/frown.gif

Then go fuck yourself http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/wink.gif
casue this is the only thing you can afford http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/smile.gif

You guys like to invoke the FTC name waaaay too much.

Unless there are many consumer -- only consumer too mind you -- complaints about how a product is being advertised and sold, the FTC does NOTHING.

Furthermore, the FTC never goes to court on a case. They ALWAYS settle, and that settlement is based on the temerity of the defendant as much as anything else.

Y'all might want to start researching the Attorneys General of your respective states if you are going to complain about this and that --

People that are scumbags certainly deserve to pay for it, but just make sure you have the right idea of what it takes --

The Bausch & Lomb case appears to be different:

"These new and identical products were represented to be different, but the only true difference was the name on the package and the price charged. "

Go to a busy intersection and you will see up to four gas stations offering gas usually at 4 different prices... comes down to marketing, consumer demand, convenience, which one offers the best soft drink/hotdog combo, etc...

I know someone that paid $1800 more for the same year and model of SUV that I have. Over Thanksgiving, I just saw honey glazed spiral cut hams on sale for $49 direct from Harry and Davids, yet a large supermarket chain had the same hams for $12.95... as far as I know, there is nothing illegal about selling a product for a different price than your competitor, or offering different discounts from coupons, sales, marketing promotions, etc to intiate sales as long as you honestly disclose what you are selling for that price.

What Bausch & Lomb did is completely different.

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I think Evidence Eliminator does that quite well, offering ways to sell their product for $135 or $99 or $75 so you can see whatever sells well for you. Plus the ability to link to different pages. Paysites doing this would be great. A certain paysite listened to me and removed free trial options for certain linking codes. It certainly helps. Allowing webmasters to allow setting different prices would work well if they are not allowed to advertise the price on the banners/ads, as members of those sites arent going to click on the banners and check out the price.

You don't think consumers would complain? That's exactly why there would be trouble> It doesn't matter if the practice is legal or not - what matters id that consumers would feel they are getting ripped off. And you're right, a settlement would probably result and the adult industry would take another hit EVEN IF what was going on did not violate any laws. A recent example was Cybererotica having to decrease the monthly price for Mr. Skin because Mr.Skin wouldn't increase the monthly price on his main site. Consumers started complaining because they paid an extra $15 joining through Cybererotica and not directly through Mr. Skin (and of course the content was the same, just represented differently). This model is only asking for trouble - that's all I'm saying.

KimmyKim is right - the FTC only handles a few porn cases a year. They almost always settle.

That doesn't mean they COULDN'T - I just don't think they would. Amazon and Victoria's Secret have faced criticism over similar tactics (and at least one lawsuit). I agree that the B&L case was different.
http://www.courttv.com/legaldocs/business/victoria.html

I have worked in retail stores that did the same. Consumer protection law is very, very strict. I haven't looked up the law on this - so I am not sure who would win, but no one wants to try if an official complaint comes their way. Notice they are using RICO to go after VS - that law was designed to go after mobsters!

If you guys really want to know what would get you into trouble - it is posting things claiming you are this and that girl (watch me get fucked in the ass on this site) in order to get them to a sponsors site if that girl isn't on there. Notice that Cybererotica WILL NOT LET YOU DO this.

Why, because they are about the only porn company on the planet that follows the law to the letter and has lawyer(s) that knows what it is - you are misrepresenting what you are selling by doing that - do I care? No, but if they wanted to they could go after hundreds of people. They are one of the few Porn Sellers to actually follow the DMCA to the letter by having a registered copyright agent.

From reading the Cybererotica boards, I recall the reason they changed the price for Mr. Skin was that people were canceling and signing up with Mr. Skin directly - making it a business and not legal decision (even if the complaining resulted in more chargebacks - it would still be good business).

Cybererotica is one of the few programs that actually offers the option you suggested (sort of) - you can have a free trial:
http://in.xxxpassword.com/cgi-bin/xx.../390/2394360/C

or paid trial:
http://in.cybererotica.com/cgi-bin/f.../221/2180116/X

Personally, I see nothing wrong with it, but who knows what the actual law says. As far as I know there is no precedent on this, but I didn't look it up. The way I see it is I AM SETTING the prices - just as I would have the right to buy something out of the VS catalog and sell it on eBay for whatever I wanted. I think this could be distinguished from CyberErotica - as they are doing the back end stuff. I think it is a great idea.

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I think it´s a good idea.
The frontend which could be accesed without
a Ref-Code could be the most expensive one
(the $40 bucks, no trial) and all the others
could say "special price" or something like
that. This would also give them the "I made
a deal here feeling"

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