Karma Will Get You.
 

Always. Pretend it doesnt exist if that brings you peace of mind, but there is no escaping your karma, ever.

I totally agree

Jon

Ah, so I'm not alone then?

no it doesnt.

this is like saying christ walked on water.

only christians believe it.

karma and its buddhist beginnings are man made. only buddhists should believe in karma, i know i dont.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=karma

to acknowledge karma is to achknowledge "destiny" or "fate" - there is not one of you who can convince me fate and destiny exist.

its all a crock of lame bullshit by people with no power to stand without either reward or punishment for their action.

do as thou wilt.

I arise in the morning torn between a desire to improve the world and a desire to enjoy the world. This makes it hard to plan the day.

Well, unfortunately there is no way to prove Karma exists. It is not a science. Like philosophy, there is no right and wrong, only opinions and logic. Although, you may brush the following off as coincidence, surely you have noticed that when you do something you know is wrong, later on down the line, something bad happens to you. Ever notice that when you do what you know is right and treat people how you would want to be treated, things seem to go okay? Would you call this coincidence your entire life?

only the naive... god...

of COURSE something BAD is going to happen to you.

something good and something bad happens to you EVERYDAY. bad and good opposites exist, everywhere... has NOTHING to do with what you did yesterday.

please dont consider philosophy anything more than religioun for the intellectual.

so you are saying good people never have bad things happen to them?

this is childs talk.

karma is bullshit.

Amen brother
:thumbsup

I agree too. karma ALWAYS comes back to get you. This is why i never fuck people over.

KARMA is real people. Take it seriously!!

Don't believe in it myself... :2 cents:

karma in my opinion is simple: it's your conscience.

For example: you slash a retarded guy's adult-tricycle wheels. at the time it's funny to you because he retarded guy starts spazzing out and such, but then you realize what you did is wrong. Then it stays in your mind and hinders your perception keeping you somewhat preoccupied, and causing you to make mistakes and then endure the consequences of thos mistakes....


just an idea

I don't buy into that shit either.

You do realize that the followers of every religion say exactly what you just said...

Nope. Karma is not a science. There is not a set of rules that dictate the same outcome everytime.

So say something bad happens to a "good person"... Well, just because you or someone else might have thought they were "good" does not make them good.

Yes, good and bad things happen to everyone, but are you saying you have not noticed any kind of correlation between doing something you know is wrong, and something "bad" happening to you, and doing something you believe or know is right, and something "good" happening to you?

I wouldnt know. I dont believe in religion. I just speak from life experience.

karma = religion

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=buddhist

The religion represented by the many groups, especially numerous in Asia, that profess varying forms of this doctrine and that venerate Buddha.

you are preaching religion yet denying you are doing so.

Buddhists may believe in Karma. They may even worship a god and religion based on Karma. I do not believe in their god, nor their religion.

I am speaking of karma in principle, not as a religion or a god. There is a difference.

please take a theolgy class and then come back man, seriously, this is goofy. "karma in principle?" - yeah a man made creation :

http://www.marcus-clark.com/path/karma1.html

christians have "the golden rule" and you buddhists have karma.

just because you dont consider it religious, it is nothing more than a reward/punishment system that is present in every major religion.

you can deny that alllll you like.

Just because a person believes they should do the right thing and treat people how they would want to be treated, does not make that person christian or buddhist. Also, if one notices a consistent correlation between doing something "right", having something right happen, doing something "wrong", having something wrong happen, does not make that person religious either. Karma just is what it is and a lot of people never realize it, or brush it off as coincidence.

Anything remotely religious will never hold water on GFY...it's not worth it to argue...it's like a republican and a democrat trying to agree :(

exactly!
Karma, faith, and all that jazz is mans way of coping with the total randomization of the world. People need to find answers to things and the only way for that is for things to be static and/or cyclical and/or non random. As soon as events become randomless and a pattern of behavior cannot be deduced to explain it, the human brain turns to faith and karma to explain the utter randomness to ones self.

Duke

I'd say karma is more superstition than religion. Of course most religions have their own "divine interventions", but in the end they're only superstitions. Religions just took those superstitions and gave them a name.

On the other hand actions have repercussions which can influence your life one way or the other, sometimes depending on wether the action was positive or not.

nah....still believes in karma..

Good point, and that is only the beginning. Repercussions are widespread and branch out in ways people never even realize.

it might not come to you but someone in your family

I think my Karma ran over someones Dogma on my way home.

Sure my thoughts excatly :thumbsup

I'm kinda a fan of comparitive religious studies and you are right on there hombre'...

Bad karma comes from the previous life :2 cents:

Not a religious person but i believe in karma some.If anything it is a personal religion not revolving around all the dumb ass brainwashing crap the churches are filled with.
Maybe if more people believed in Karma instead of religion there would be alot less molested little boys and car bombings.You know what half the holy rollers do these days in the name of god!

Even if you believe in Karma, you will never experience it in your lifetime. Karma in the Buddhist and Hindu traditions is the direction of your rebirth, reincarnation. It's a common misconception that it's an immediate cause and effect relationship.

Hinduism = Karma, everyone else followed. Karma happens in this life, from past life and current life events.

Karma is religion when it's based around following a god(s).

Eckankar for example, uses Karma in its teachings of life, but not pushed around a god to follow. While "god" does exist in Eck, god isn?t' given a persona, more the spirit of life/love which helps guide you through this life and onto the next.

Looking at Karma as ?if I do something good, something good will happen to me?. Doesn?t work. Karma is about pure love from within the soul.

You don?t have to believe in Karma, it doesn?t mater if you do or don?t. Good people seem to have good things happen to them and negative people don?t seem to move on in life. Good things in life isn?t getting a nice big house, or a new car, or a million dollar idea, it?s about you and your life your love and your love for others. True happiness.

The only time you can argue Karma is when it?s based around a religion.

Good post. I agree with all of the above.

If karma existed nobody would be able to get rich and powerful ;)

Sure they would, just because someone is rich and powerful doesnt mean they're happy or have peace of mind.

:glugglug

Intresting responses..I do believe in karma...But I also believe in god :thumbsup

Sorry Fletch, I usually agree with you, but you're clueless on this one.

Karma is the Universal Life Force's way of keeping everything in harmonic balance.

Exactly.. so karma is just your conscience.. not something managed by higher powers.

Enough proof that karma doesnt exist ;)

clueless?

yeah... okay KRL.

if you know anything about nature is THERE IS NO HARMONY.

nature is chaotic, it in its nature is CHAOS.

im gonna stop here though.

theres no way im going to get into chaos mathematics, and dialectics on this board :1orglaugh

With all chaos there is peace, in every form.

By arguing the point it shows that you have no clue what life is really about. It's pointless to argue with a mind that has never ventured beyond the physical plane. Please go enjoy your cars, cash, and personal goods that hold you back from expanding the mind beyond what you see with your eyes.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

While I don't belive in God and much of that "stuff", I actually do belive in Karma, and can actually think about some situations were it kicked in real hard.

I never heard about karma until i got in this biz and started posting on message boards, lol

Karma simply put, it is the law of cause and effect. so no one religion has monoploly over it.

I actually feel sorry for a lot of you guys. So divorced from the basic laws of the universe.

Karma is not as trivial as "do bad shit" and it will come and bite you on the ass.

It's a much more sophisticated principle of cause and effect.

This is a decent explanation of it:

http://www.lifepositive.com/Spirit/w...uism/karma.asp

Bottom line is that like anything important, it requires a little bit more than reading a couple of lines of text on a computer screen.

For $6.33 you can go to Amazon.com and buy an amazing book called "Buddhism Plain and Simple", and it's some serious non-Tony Robbins shit that makes you see how your actions work, good and bad.

Trust me: I think religion is a crock. And lots of "religious" people abuse the concept of karma. That doesn't change the wisdom of its ideas, tried and tested by people for generations, independent of churches, monasteries or other stuff.

I don't care what anyone says...I believe in karma because I've been bitten in the ass a couple times and it hurts!! :(

Acutally, here's an example of karma that many of you will relate to:

When I was younger, I did some work for a guy who drove me crazy with demands: Change this, change that, endless bullshit in Photoshop that went on for weeks.

Fine, I thought, I'm getting paid.

Then the guy didn't pay me. Told me he couldn't pay me, that my fees were too high, blah blah blah, after the fact bullshit.

I threatened to sue him. Wrote letters. Showed up at his house.

Contacted his regular suppliers and guess what? They too go screwed.

Fast forward to a few years later.

The cocksucker is sitting on an outdoor patio with all kinds of friends enjoying his life, nice summer night. I see him and decide I'm going to embarass him so severly, this is my chance to "get my money's worth".

Instead, I walk up to the table, maybe 15 people, people stop talking, I simply look right at him, smile and walk away. Dead silence.

I can see how terrified he is that I will "out him".

I decide to give him another chance to pay me, short of desparate humiliation.

I never get a cheque. It's not a happy ending.

Another few years go by, I see him in a Starbuck's, look right the fuck at him, don't move my eyes from his face for one minute. He doesn't flinch, even with my eyes burning his ass open.

He walks away and I think "damn, that motherfucker must be so haunted with runnin that he's built up TOTAL DEFENSES".

I'm short $2k, but instead of literally choking the guy, I walked away, and I can honestly tell you that I needed that $2k LIKE CRAZY at the time, but I needed my peace of mind more, and now, years later, I see that as an "inadvertent" test of my peace.

That, friends, is karma.

Now, instead of seeing that guy as some devilish cocksucker, I see him as a guy runnin' from his shit.

BUT, he still owes me that money, yessiree. Difference is, I ain't wasting my life energy trying to make him into something he's not.

It's his karma, after all.