How does CAMS.COM pay $70 PPS ?
 

All these last 5 months of payouts, People think oh this is a scam or how can he do that there i no way that anyone can pay out that kinda money !

Well thats true ! I cant pay out $70 PPS and make money in fact I loose a lot of money paying out $70 PPS. I spent over 250,000 last month in extra payouts alone than I normally do. This eats into profit margin bigtime. I am doing these insaine promotions in hopes that more people will give us a try and stick with us for a long time to come. So far so good we have had 6 months of record sales back to back!

In the coming months we are going to keep spending that $250,000 extra ad money on ad buys on tgps and other key sites. So you will start to see many many more cams.com Banners and links and galleries all over the top 30 or so tgps.

Also our new video software has helped boost up sales by 20% in the last 2 months, this means 20% more money for you on the same ammount of traffic.

If you have traffic and want to give something else a try for change give me a shot at your biz and converting your traffic.

Also there has been some discussion of late about cookies, here is my take on them and how we handle them at streamray.

1. We do URL and cookie tracking. To give you maximum sales.

2. If a user creates a free account that account is stored in the database for life so if he comes back 5 years from now and logs in and buys time you get paid !

3. All co branded sites get 100% of sales as the sales are credited to the url reguardless of cookie. So on this system there is no slop at all, no exit consoles no traffic leaks and no cookies to expire or fuck up 100% of all traffic is paid to you on that url.

4. If a surfer bookmarks a url on our system it has the ref id in it so when they return you get sales for that as well.

5. In light of the current things brought up about cookies we will once again review our process, and adjust things to be as fair as possible for all of our webmasters to make th most $$ possible from us.
:pimp

Lars

C'mon guys, sign up and eat his profit margin even more!

Good shit man, can you clarify something for me. You're saying $70 PPS so that's the surfer signing up for free, and then you get $70 on their first purchase right, not $70 just on the free signup right?

On cams.com this month its on the first deposit of money they have to put in $20 for you to get paid out the $70

That's what I thought I was just clarifying and bumping. Thanks bro, good shit!

So you're telling us that you spent money to make money?!?!

OMFG, what a concept, lolzie!

oh, and I have a couple questions...

The '20% commision forever' is the plan to sign up to, right?

And are these girls really live cam girls?

lars rocks

indeed :thumbsup

I love the program lars and it does well for me, but I have 1 question...

I see from the stats that EVERY customer has had a $75 "load".
Correct me if I am wrong -if you get 75 bucks from every person, isnt this an instant profit and not a huge loss as you suggest?

aka loss leader. Biz 101 for the newbies.

Great program, :thumbsup

actually we give them 75 credit and most dont spend it.. and even if they do we cant for some reason charge them often we actually loose a lot more on teh $1 sites than we do on our program that is prepaid.


also remember we pay out 35-40% to models on every $1 spent. so if we pay out $70 bucks to break even each and evey customer must spend at least $150 bucks !

70$ is a good amount for a PPS. I will give a try it soon.

Any chance I can get this banner in its original high quality:

http://banners.images.streamray.com/camscom/cams07.gif

Thanks

Why do you seem to only have cookies tracking for 1.5 days?

same way you walk into supermarket and pay 80 cents for a 2 liter bottle of coke.
They dont make money on the coke but you might pick up bananas and zuchinnis while your there

Lars you need any camcocks?

If you read above you will see that cookies play a very small part in our tracking. For the most part we use url and session id tracking as well as hard coded database entries. With that being said we will review our current cookie time periods. I thought it was longer than that. When we had it set at 30 days we got a lot of complaints from webmasters, who were unhapy it was too long. Can never please all the people all the time.

says in here

1.5 days

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ghlight=cookie

thats probably why he is asking

Yo Lars ...
Could you plz turn your ICQ on ? :pimp

Good post, Lars. Thanks for explaining how you track sign-ups, a lot of sponsors are unwilling to do so (or at least, without prodding them first!).

Since I've been sending traffic to cams.com I've noticed an increase in conversions so I'm sure you're going to win big-time with it

:thumbsup

Yes ok I have changed it to 30 days for now. Here is the issue we have
if you set it for say 6 months, then we get webmasters who visited our site with another webmasters ref code, and then they go to do a test signup, they dont see th sale in their stats cuzz their cookied with the other webmasters ref code they call us up and scream at us that we are stealing from them. I have had at least 20 of these phone calls over the years. So we lowered the cookie setting to please these people. Now you have the other crowd who claims we are stealing because of the 1.5 day cookie. you can not please all the people all the time.


And AS POSTED ABOVE if you have a co brand with us then the cookie does not mean anything since it is tied to the url and you get all sales to that url forever as long as the url remains active. And anyone who signs up for a free account is tagged in the database for life with that ref code. Cookies do not come into action on any of these things.

1. We do URL and cookie tracking. To give you maximum sales.

2. If a user creates a free account that account is stored in the database for life so if he comes back 5 years from now and logs in and buys time you get paid !

3. All co branded sites get 100% of sales as the sales are credited to the url reguardless of cookie. So on this system there is no slop at all, no exit consoles no traffic leaks and no cookies to expire or fuck up 100% of all traffic is paid to you on that url.

4. If a surfer bookmarks a url on our system it has the ref id in it so when they return you get sales for that as well.

5. In light of the current things brought up about cookies we will once again review our process, and adjust things to be as fair as possible for all of our webmasters to make th most $$ possible from us.




Ideally we would like it so URL takes precident over cookie. So BOB sends traffic to cams.com bob gets ref cookie, say set for life, bobs traffic did not sign up on a free signup and did no buy time. Then JIM sends traffic to site, JIMS REF in his URL overwrites BOBS Cookie Jims traffic does not sign up for a free account. FRED sends traffic and gets his cookie on there and finally freds customer signs up for free but does not spend money that day but does so later we look up in the database that the customer login belongs to fred customer spends money and we pay fred for the sale.

On a side note if you do not overwrite cookies then people who have large volumes of traffic have an advantage over guys with few custoemrs as the big guys will get the base installs very quickly and little guys will never get any sales. since everything will be cookied by only the largest traffic sources since all traffic is pretty much from the same pool rotating around the net at this point.


In order to change the way we do cookies and urls it is going to take a rewrite of our Traffic tracker which is a week of programming. In the mean time we have set the cookie to 30 days. If you want to avoid cookies you can create a co brand where cookies are not taken into account. 95% of our traffic goes through co brands so this discussion does not affect 95% of our webmasters. Only those who send to camgirlslive cams.com and cumtv.com are effected. And I will add that that affect is minimal. I have talked to the programmers this morning and we are working on a plan to change things out to work a bit diffferetnt hat i hope will make everyone happy and make as many people the most possible money :) Thanks for bringing this issue up I was not aware that the cookies were set that short.

Lars is a class act. He introuduced himself to me at the movie post dinner and was so humble. It's amazing that a guy who banks what he does still is as level headed as if he was making 10 bucks an hour.
Great guy, great program. Simple as that :)
Duke

Thanks I am honored by your words !

Though i still consider myself a self centered ego maniac, I am better than i once was :) but i am wroking to my ideal of a more careing giving person.


Was great to meet you and once again thanks for the awesome dinner ! it was one of the best i attended at the show. A true class Act ! I would love to help sponsor it next year.

well normally, new cookies overwrite old ones, so i dont know why these cry babies need to whine.

those girls are all live. there are about 5,000 total models so there are quite a few live at any time.

the 20% program makes a lot of people happy, but you have to give it time

3. All co branded sites get 100% of sales as the sales are credited to the url reguardless of cookie. So on this system there is no slop at all, no exit consoles no traffic leaks and no cookies to expire or fuck up 100% of all traffic is paid to you on that url.

I am interested in this, can you send me some information, or give me a call?
[email protected]
316.516.0784

do you have icq or aim?

22264474

coming your way now

Thanks for the post Lars.

Awesome thread, Lars! Very informative :)

Man people complain about everything give them the moon and they say its too cold... its human nature to bitch and on gfy its extra that way LOL

and its NOT made of Cheeze
:Oh crap

we need a juicycam

id rather go co-branded than compplain :)

Santa Cruz People can not be beat.
They are just like that:)

You and Izzz might buy that stuff. I don't.
:winkwink:

Do you need models to sit behind a camera for you? I have some that might be interested. I've thought of starting a cams site but have decided it's not something I wish to pursue at this time.

tacos on the beach today i think

Found the answer to my question on your site....

http://models.streamray.com/

we will take new models all day long. [email protected] can hook that up for you

where can i find more info on co-branding?

does it have to be: fletchxxx.streamray.com ?

can i use existing urlS?

direct me to some info, im feeling creative and need to add this to my list to do.

yes its all in the webmaster area and you can use your own url and dns :)

live.fletchesbitches.com or whatever you want :)

cool beans. i have my partner working on something right now. Choosing URL and branding and then we will work on design.

i plan on doing a co-branded site with you, im working on a few projects right now, but as soon as we have everything set up... ill sign up and we will knock this out.

good deal.

Nice feature!

results of your search

fletchesbitches.com is available.

thats not how i brand ;)

hahhaahah me neither