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MF Doom 02-01-2005 08:35 PM

Do Italian people get mad if...
 
Do Italian people get mad if you call them Silician?

freeadultcontent 02-01-2005 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MF Doom
Do Italian people get mad if you call them Silician?

Not if they are from that region.

AndrewKanuck 02-01-2005 08:37 PM

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DavieVegas 02-01-2005 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MF Doom
Do Italian people get mad if you call them Silician?

im 100% italian and no i dont get mad...my buddy is all sicilian but his family and mine use to do a ton of things with the mafia and he considers himself italian! Most consider sicilian and italian the same accept for a few anal people...Customs are not much different to be honest. But black people went to sicily and slept with all the women there, so some italians take offense and consier sicily not to be really "italian"

Meloman 02-01-2005 08:42 PM

I'm Sicilian. I've met Italians that look down on people from Sicily just like an American looks down on white trash / ghetto folk.

I always find it funny and then make it a point that I'm Sicialian AMERICAN so hahaah I win cause America beats both, LOL.

But in reality I find that ignorance sad. It's techniqually all one country.

DavieVegas 02-01-2005 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Meloman
I'm Sicilian. I've met Italians that look down on people from Sicily just like an American looks down on white trash / ghetto folk.

I always find it funny and then make it a point that I'm Sicialian AMERICAN so hahaah I win cause America beats both, LOL.

But in reality I find that ignorance sad. It's techniqually all one country.

ya i agree....italians that look down on sicilians are arrogant and dont live in the present..I love my heritage dont get me wrong, but we all have great stories to tell, and for the most part, it is the same damn country

sonofsam 02-01-2005 08:46 PM

they do get mad when you say "mafangulio" hah :)

DavieVegas 02-01-2005 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam
they do get mad when you say "mafangulio" hah :)

LOL and when we are called "whops", To us thats like calling black people "the N word". Some deserve it and some do not..Theres a difference between ignorant people both black and italian. Thats my opinions at least!

Meloman 02-01-2005 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DavieVegas
But black people went to sicily and slept with all the women there, so some italians take offense and consier sicily not to be really "italian"

Interesting. I've never heard that idiology before. I've always heard it's cause the mafia comes from Sicily so Italy just looks down on the whole region.

Not to mention there's a whole world of difference in the way Italy and Sicilay is even with customs etc.. now. Italy has become VERY, VERY westernized. I'd say from Rome north it's all very much like the U.S. but they speak Italian.

Sicialy on the other hand is still VERY old fashioned and much like Italy was 50 years ago. The way they dress, the economy, there family values etc.. it's all very different than the north. And sadly it's mainly all cause the mafia has such a stranglehold on Sicily that it keeps it economically backwards. Sicily does not have the same economic infrastructure that the north has and therefore it grows and changes with the rest of the world at a snails pace.

This is all the impressions I've been given whenever I visit.

Note: I do mention to all my girls friends that "techniqually" I do have black in me.....and they'll find out where later, HEHEHE

wargames 02-01-2005 08:51 PM

Why would they get mad?

DavieVegas 02-01-2005 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Meloman
Interesting. I've never heard that idiology before. I've always heard it's cause the mafia comes from Sicily so Italy just looks down on the whole region.

Not to mention there's a whole world of difference in the way Italy and Sicilay is even with customs etc.. now. Italy has become VERY, VERY westernized. I'd say from Rome north it's all very much like the U.S. but they speak Italian.

Sicialy on the other hand is still VERY old fashioned and much like Italy was 50 years ago. The way they dress, the economy, there family values etc.. it's all very different than the north. And sadly it's mainly all cause the mafia has such a stranglehold on Sicily that it keeps it economically backwards. Sicily does not have the same economic infrastructure that the north has and therefore it grows and changes with the rest of the world at a snails pace.

This is all the impressions I've been given whenever I visit.

Ya, if u look back on the whole history of italy and so forth, north and south. Siciliy was invaded if im not mistaken long time ago, and women were either raped or just because they attackers were there for so long, they just were use to african americans being there, which some had babies. Iv read it, in my italian class that i had 2 years ago. I was shocked actually. But ya, there are way different customs these days. It is so traditional in italy now a days, because italians are very proud of there heritage.

boner 2.0 02-01-2005 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MF Doom
Do Italian people get mad if you call them Silician?

They get mad when you spit in their noodles :2 cents:

Meloman 02-01-2005 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DavieVegas
Ya, if u look back on the whole history of italy and so forth, north and south. Siciliy was invaded if im not mistaken long time ago, and women were either raped or just because they attackers were there for so long, they just were use to african americans being there, which some had babies. Iv read it, in my italian class that i had 2 years ago. I was shocked actually. But ya, there are way different customs these days. It is so traditional in italy now a days, because italians are very proud of there heritage.

Ya if I'm not mistaken I've heard Sicialy is the most conquered region of all Europe so it makes total sense. Sicialy is a strategic point where you can launch ships/war toward anywhere.

DavieVegas 02-01-2005 08:56 PM

its amazing cuz not to be racist cuz im not but that is why italians call arrogant blacks "mulians" Which means eggplant. Cuz the color of the eggplant is black or purple..Depends on the type of eggplant i guess. But italians and blacks do not like each other. Even now a days, at parties, there the first to go at it.

Meloman 02-01-2005 09:04 PM

Interesting.

I've never really spent much time in Northern Italy. Just traveled a bit and did the usual tourist thing visiting Venice, Pisa, Rome etc and seeing the usual tourist attractions.

On the other hand I've visited Sicily a WHOLE lot since that's where my parents are from. I speak Italian and have been visiting since I was kid every couple years. I used to spend whole summers there as a kid.

I'm definitely proud of being Italian/America.

DavieVegas 02-01-2005 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Meloman
Interesting.

I've never really spent much time in Northern Italy. Just traveled a bit and did the usual tourist thing visiting Venice, Pisa, Rome etc and seeing the usual tourist attractions.

On the other hand I've visited Sicily a WHOLE lot since that's where my parents are from. I speak Italian and have been visiting since I was kid every couple years. I used to spend whole summers there as a kid.

I'm definitely proud of being Italian/America.

Ya, i enjoy being italian american as well. Plus the ladies prefer us over anyone else lovers wise! At least they know whats up lol

Meloman 02-01-2005 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DavieVegas
Plus the ladies prefer us over anyone else lovers wise! At least they know whats up lol

You can say that again brotha!

Hehehe and it works even better when you can say sweet things to them in Italian (or at least they "think" I'm saying something nice), LOL

comeplay 02-01-2005 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DavieVegas
LOL and when we are called "whops", To us thats like calling black people "the N word". Some deserve it and some do not..Theres a difference between ignorant people both black and italian. Thats my opinions at least!

Its wop not whop you uneducated sicilian.

DavieVegas 02-01-2005 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Meloman
You can say that again brotha!

Hehehe and it works even better when you can say sweet things to them in Italian (or at least they "think" I'm saying something nice), LOL

LOL, yait does.My grandfather and uncles speak italian very well. I though, have sat down with them and learned some but im actually ashamed at myself for not learning the language, like most my family does.

DavieVegas 02-01-2005 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by comeplay
Its wop not whop you uneducated sicilian.

first off, im not sicilian. Secondly, does the spelling matter? Like i said, i do not write it cuz im italian. Im not some dumb ass hick or wigger that sits there and corrects the actual spelling of the word lol. U got no life. Im sure u just looked it up to feel like a educated internet user! So sad.

Meloman 02-01-2005 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DavieVegas
LOL, yait does.My grandfather and uncles speak italian very well. I though, have sat down with them and learned some but im actually ashamed at myself for not learning the language, like most my family does.

I didn't have much of a choice in learning. It was my first language cause my Mom didn't speak any English at the time. She's still not perfectly fluent in English so I still speak it all the time. Though I admit I'm loosing it a bit not living at home anymore and speaking it 24/7.

I actually learned English from watching Seasame Street if you can believe it. By the time I was 3/4 I spoke both perfectly.

I can't read or write it though. One of these days I need to take a class.

DavieVegas 02-01-2005 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Meloman
I didn't have much of a choice in learning. It was my first language cause my Mom didn't speak any English at the time. She's still not perfectly fluent in English so I still speak it all the time. Though I admit I'm loosing it a bit not living at home anymore and speaking it 24/7.

I actually learned English from watching Seasame Street if you can believe it. By the time I was 3/4 I spoke both perfectly.

I can't read or write it though. One of these days I need to take a class.

Ya, actually thats not the first time iv heard people say they have learned english from "Sesame Street". So, i can understand that. Ya writing it, i woul dhave to go to a class also

Persius 02-01-2005 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AndrewKanuck

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Paco, of Large Cash. 02-01-2005 09:23 PM

I am first-generation Canadian/Italian (Calabria, Catanzaro) and I wouldn't/don't care. As for the rest ... I see no reason.
There are many flavours of Italian - the northern tend to be more German (blonde, blue-eyes) - but deep down, we are Italian.
No different from Parisians, Scandanavians, Canadians.

comeplay 02-01-2005 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DavieVegas
first off, im not sicilian. Secondly, does the spelling matter? Like i said, i do not write it cuz im italian. Im not some dumb ass hick or wigger that sits there and corrects the actual spelling of the word lol. U got no life. Im sure u just looked it up to feel like a educated internet user! So sad.


Actually I am italian also I was correcting your spelling and showing humor by using what this thread is about in an actual post. (how italians look down on sicilians)

BV 02-01-2005 09:35 PM

WOP is an acronym for (With Out Papers) The immigration labeled the Itallian immigrants with a paper with this acronym wriiten on it and it stuck.

and yes Northern Itallians look down on the Sicilians (Southern Itallians) similar to the way a white racist looks upon a black person here. I remember my Great Grandfather going on and on about it.

I am Itallian but you would never know it as my heritage is from the Florence area in Northern Italy. I have blue eyes and light hair and fair skin. Not all itallians are Greasy Guidos, lol.

Meloman 02-01-2005 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BV
I am Itallian but you would never know it as my heritage is from the Florence area in Northern Italy. I have blue eyes and light hair and fair skin. Not all itallians are Greasy Guidos, lol.

I know what you mean about NOT looking Italian. Ok, so I'm 100% Sicilian...first generation born American. You would think I'd look a little Italian. Hell I have cousins that have darker skin than some black people, lol.

I have brown hair and blue eyes that sometimes turn green. I'm actually pretty white (I get very tan IF I'm in the sun a lot but working behind a computer for years has diminished that). Unless you know me or here my name no one every guesses I'm Italian.

I have people think I'm German, French, English, South American etc.. everything but Italian, lol.

BV 02-01-2005 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Meloman
I know what you mean about NOT looking Italian. Ok, so I'm 100% Sicilian...first generation born American. You would think I'd look a little Italian. Hell I have cousins that have darker skin than some black people, lol.

I have brown hair and blue eyes that sometimes turn green. I'm actually pretty white (I get very tan IF I'm in the sun a lot but working behind a computer for years has diminished that). Unless you know me or here my name no one every guesses I'm Italian.

I have people think I'm German, French, English, South American etc.. everything but Italian, lol.

Not to mention the 17 million different ways we had to here our name pronounced differently all through school and life.

Meloman 02-01-2005 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BV
Not to mention the 17 million different ways we had to here our name pronounced differently all through school and life.

Dude you have no idea how dead on your are on that statement.

My full name is Carmelo Elio Lo Giudice.

I've NEVER met someone that can pronounce my last name right other than other Italians who actually speak the language.

Hell I even get people messing up Carmelo. Seriously, the Taco Bell down the street asks you for your name with your order... this particular Taco Bell is all 100% Asian employees. They write down my name as Carmella, Karnello, Carnilo... you name it.. they always fuck up my first name when they call it and then when I see my reciept and how they spelt it I see why.

Ok, I can totaly understant my last name being diffifuclt... but come on how freakin difficult is it to pronounce Carmelo?? And it's whith ONE L not two!

hehe.. ok that was my 1 board rant for the day, lol

BuggyG 02-02-2005 09:17 AM

makes no difference to me
though do get Sicilians that call them selves Sicilian and not Itlian if ya ask them
but to me.. all the same

you'll always get some thinking better then others..


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