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MGPspots 01-30-2005 08:23 AM

ASP.NET Rocks !
 
Just getting into ASP.NET, its taken me a while to get used to it but the power is awesome. Dinosaurs in the php world better move over

fris 01-30-2005 08:26 AM

asp is good for somethings php for the other.

my friend works for ms. uses asp.net everyday.

Doctor Dre 01-30-2005 08:29 AM

Asp is sooo under rated in this business it's not even funny

MGPspots 01-30-2005 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre
Asp is sooo under rated in this business it's not even funny

Yeah, that's exactly what I don't get. Never see a .NET adult script. If you look at other industries it really is beginning to take over. In finance for example it is already pretty much the standard.

DEA - banned for life 01-30-2005 08:35 AM

was hoping there would be more drama in this thread

ronbotx 01-30-2005 08:42 AM

You will see .Net used by corporations and the governement.

I like .Net from a technical view but once you start down that route, you will be paying Microsoft license fees for developmnent tools, Windows Server, and SQL Server.

Please note the ASP and ASP.Net are two different things and require two different skill sets. .Net people are in demand now so be prepared to pay well for labor.

tdp-Cool-content 01-30-2005 09:16 AM

.NET f.. rules!!! you can do the most hardcore serverscripts in no time PLUS it's so easy to reuse your code!

grumpy 01-30-2005 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by tdp-Cool-content
.NET f.. rules!!! you can do the most hardcore serverscripts in no time PLUS it's so easy to reuse your code!

If you write your code proper in php you can reuse it to. Advance of php is that its low on server resources. Asp and Net are costly and use a lot of server resources. Reason big companys demand asp or . net or the combo is because its Microsft. The big software comapnies will use asp and .net because they can make more money with that type of coding.

tdp-Cool-content 01-30-2005 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by grumpy
If you write your code proper in php you can reuse it to. Advance of php is that its low on server resources. Asp and Net are costly and use a lot of server resources. Reason big companys demand asp or . net or the combo is because its Microsft. The big software comapnies will use asp and .net because they can make more money with that type of coding.

Using .NET framework for webdevelopment is NOT draining your servers resources it's a myth. it only copile the code ONE time the rest is up to the bandwith.

Using PHP the server read the code for all hits made on the server and is therfor using alot og CPU power.. i belive :)

well all in all I think MS made a fucking awsome framework that give programers a lot of opportunities that has not been availible before in any language.

Series 01-30-2005 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ronbotx
Please note the ASP and ASP.Net are two different things and require two different skill sets.

Curious... how different are they? I know they're quite different, but are they night & day different? I did A LOT with ASP up until about 2002, do you think it would be fairly easy to make the jump to .NET if I needed to?

thanks.

Series 01-30-2005 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ronbotx
You will see .Net used by corporations and the governement.

I know a lot of sportsbooks use ASP / .NET too

tdp-Cool-content 01-30-2005 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Series
Curious... how different are they? I know they're quite different, but are they night & day different? I did A LOT with ASP up until about 2002, do you think it would be fairly easy to make the jump to .NET if I needed to?

thanks.

for starters the HTML is removed from the code it self! and it's more like Visual basic code or u can use C# code, your choise :)

but no it's not that hard to learn! try some starter exsamples ad http://www.asp.net

MGPspots 01-30-2005 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Series
Curious... how different are they? I know they're quite different, but are they night & day different? I did A LOT with ASP up until about 2002, do you think it would be fairly easy to make the jump to .NET if I needed to?

thanks.


If you had experience with asp , asp.net should be no drama. Some differences like a more powerful language (vb.net or c#), code behind pages etc. But overall asp.net is easier than asp (imho).

The really cool thing I like is that vb is now a fully power OO language (vb.net) and its really easy to move over to c# once you've done vb.net. So its actaully a painless way to get over to C.

The other great thing is that the code is indentical for applications, websites or pda's, its just the presentation layer that changes. For example, now I'm working on a derivatives site, but should I need to I can easily move it over to a windows app or pda app.

ASP2.0 is out at the end of the year which is another big step forward, so get on board now folks...

Kevsh 01-30-2005 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Series
I know a lot of sportsbooks use ASP / .NET too

Microsoft has a very good sales team :)

Rui 01-30-2005 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tdp-Cool-content
Using .NET framework for webdevelopment is NOT draining your servers resources it's a myth. it only copile the code ONE time the rest is up to the bandwith.

Using PHP the server read the code for all hits made on the server and is therfor using alot og CPU power.. i belive :)

well all in all I think MS made a fucking awsome framework that give programers a lot of opportunities that has not been availible before in any language.

So you are saying ASP.net uses less resources php? :1orglaugh shit you need to hire some new programmers or buy some books

MGPspots 01-30-2005 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Rui
So you are saying ASP.net uses less resources php? :1orglaugh shit you need to hire some new programmers or buy some books

I guess php may use less server resources and is probably more stable than asp.net (although asp.net uses less resources than asp, and asp2 is meant to be 20% quicker). But who cares?? If you have a high traffic TGP or hi-traffic paysite or something like GFY you might notice a small performance benefit. But for the vast majority of sites there isn't the performance difference is insignificant and they would benefit fromthe extra power and functionality of asp.net.

NaughtyRob 01-30-2005 10:54 AM

Our new 2257 product is programmed in .net

Relish XXX 01-30-2005 10:58 AM

If you are using ASP will it only work on Windows based servers?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 01-30-2005 11:00 AM

So does my daughters big wheel, but hey...
What ever makes you happy.

Warden 01-30-2005 11:34 AM

ASP along with ColdFusion are making huge comebacks. Simply because of their scalability and functionality they have over so many other interface languages.

ronbotx 01-30-2005 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Series
Curious... how different are they? I know they're quite different, but are they night & day different? I did A LOT with ASP up until about 2002, do you think it would be fairly easy to make the jump to .NET if I needed to?

thanks.

You will have a fairly significant learning curve. I had to switch from vbscript to C#, there is the whole code-behind thing, Visual-Studio, and the ADO calls are all different....

If you are doing small to maybe medium size apps though, you might try using Dreamweaver MX for ASP.Net. I found it a lot simpler that using Studio for basic web apps.

tdp-Cool-content 01-30-2005 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rui
So you are saying ASP.net uses less resources php? :1orglaugh shit you need to hire some new programmers or buy some books

I don't think I need to do anything Mr. ;)

Series 01-30-2005 12:35 PM

Interesting... thanks :)

THAREALROGER 01-30-2005 01:38 PM

ASP.NET is very powerful....I work with every day as an programmer...I use mostly C#
Thanks to BILL, this time he came with a great idea......
And if you are really gonna programm in ASP.NET u need to learn Visual Studio....
It's worth it in the end...
Peace Roger


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