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  • KRL
    Entrepreneur
    • Oct 2002
    • 31429

    #1

    Tsuanmi Aid Bullshit

    This is the shit that really pisses me off to no end and is such a total bullshit reality when people give aid $$ to genuinely help suffering people and the sleazy businessmen step in to the picture and gouge the money from the aid $$$ we send by jacking up prices where all the aid organizations are operating.



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    Last edited by KRL; 01-27-2005, 08:11 AM.
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  • NickPapageorgio
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2004
    • 8323

    #2
    What a bunch of shit. That's sad...

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    • chowda
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      • Jun 2003
      • 9527

      #3
      there is no free lunch in this world.
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      • nico-t
        emperor of my world
        • Aug 2004
        • 29903

        #4
        what else is new

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        • sperbonzo
          I'd rather be on my boat.
          • May 2003
          • 9750

          #5
          Check THIS out.....




          /*Subject:*/ Tsunami Relief from the USS Lincoln

          >>Subject: The USS Lincoln and Tsunami Relief
          >>I can imagine that it truly has been a zoo out there. khl
          >>01-20-2005 Guest Column: No Relief in Sight for the Lincoln By Ed Stanton
          >>It has been three weeks since my ship, the USS Abraham Lincoln, arrived
          >>off the Sumatran coast to aid the hundreds of thousands of victims of the
          >>Dec. 26 tsunami that ravaged their coastline. I'd like to say that this
          >>has been a rewarding experience for us, but it has not: Instead, it has
          >>been a frustrating and needlessly dangerous exercise made even more
          >>difficult by the Indonesian government and a traveling circus of
          >>so-called aid workers who have invaded our spaces.
          >>What really irritated me was a scene I witnessed in the Lincoln's
          >>wardroom a few days ago. I went in for breakfast as I usually do,
          >>expecting to see the usual crowd of ship's company officers in khakis and
          >>air wing aviators in flight suits, drinking coffee and exchanging rumors
          >>about when our ongoing humanitarian mission in Sumatra is going to end.
          >>What I saw instead was a mob of civilians sitting around like they owned
          >>the place. They wore various colored vests with logos on the back
          >>including Save The Children, World Health Organization and the dreaded
          >>baby blue vest of the United Nations. Mixed in with this crowd were a
          >>bunch of reporters, cameramen and Indonesian military officers in
          >>uniform. They all carried cameras, sunglasses and fanny packs like
          >>tourists on their way to Disneyland.
          >>My warship had been transformed into a floating hotel for a bunch of
          >>trifling do-gooders overnight.
          >>As I went through the breakfast line, I overheard one of the U.N
          >>strap-hangers, a longhaired guy with a beard, make a sarcastic comment to
          >>one of our food servers. He said something along the lines of "Nice
          >>china, really makes me feel special," in reference to the fact that we
          >>were eating off of paper plates that day. It was all I could do to keep
          >>from jerking him off his feet and choking him, because I knew that the
          >>reason we were eating off paper plates was to save dishwashing water so
          >>that we would have more water to send ashore and save lives. That plus
          >>the fact that he had no business being there in the first place.
          >>My attitude towards these unwanted no-loads grew steadily worse that day
          >>as I learned more from one of our junior officers who was assigned to
          >>escort a group of them. It turns out that they had come to Indonesia to
          >>"assess the damage" from the Dec. 26 tsunami.
          >>Well, they could have turned on any TV in the world and seen that the
          >>damage was total devastation. When they got to Sumatra with no plan, no
          >>logistics support and no five-star hotels to stay in, they threw
          >>themselves on the mercy of the U.S. Navy, which, unfortunately, took them
          >>in. I guess our senior brass was hoping for some good PR since this was
          >>about the time that the U.N. was calling the United States "stingy" with
          >>our relief donations.
          >>As a result of having to host these people, our severely over-tasked
          >>SH-60 Seahawk helos, which were carrying tons of food and water every day
          >>to the most inaccessible places in and around Banda Aceh, are now used in
          >>great part to ferry these "relief workers" from place to place every day
          >>and bring them back to their guest bedrooms on the Lincoln at night.
          >>Despite their avowed dedication to helping the victims, these relief
          >>workers will not spend the night in-country, and have made us their
          >>guardians by default.
          >>When our wardroom treasurer approached the leader of the relief group and
          >>asked him who was paying the mess bill for all the meals they ate, the
          >>fellow replied, "We aren't paying, you can try to bill the U.N. if you
          >>want to."
          >>In addition to the relief workers, we routinely get tasked with hauling
          >>around reporters and various low-level "VIPs," which further wastes
          >>valuable helo lift that could be used to carry supplies. We had to
          >>dedicate two helos and a C-2 cargo plane for America-hater Dan Rather and
          >>his entourage of door holders and briefcase carriers from CBS News.
          >>Another camera crew was from MTV. I doubt if we'll get any good PR from
          >>them, since the cable channel is banned in Muslim countries. We also had
          >>to dedicate a helo and crew to fly around the vice mayor of Phoenix,
          >>Ariz., one day. Everyone wants in on the action.
          >>As for the Indonesian officers, while their job is apparently to
          >>encourage our leaving as soon as possible, all they seem to do in the
          >>meantime is smoke cigarettes. They want our money and our help but they
          >>don't want their population to see that Americans are doing far more for
          >>them in two weeks than their own government has ever done or will ever do
          >>for them.
          >>To add a kick in the face to the USA and the Lincoln, the Indonesian
          >>government announced it would not allow us to use their airspace for
          >>routine training and flight proficiency operations while we are saving
          >>the lives of their people, some of whom are wearing Osama bin Ladin
          >>T-shirts as they grab at our food and water. The ship has to steam out
          >>into international waters to launch and recover jets, which makes our
          >>helos have to fly longer distances and burn more fuel.
          >>What is even worse than trying to help people who totally reject
          >>everything we stand for is that our combat readiness has suffered for it.
          >>An aircraft carrier is an instrument of national policy and the big stick
          >>she carries is her air wing. An air wing has a set of very demanding
          >>skills and they are highly perishable. We train hard every day at sea to
          >>conduct actual air strikes, air defense, maritime surveillance, close air
          >>support and many other missions - not to mention taking off and landing
          >>on a ship at sea.
          >>Our safety regulations state that if a pilot does not get a night carrier
          >>landing every seven days, he has to be re-qualified to land on the ship.
          >>Today we have pilots who have now been over 25 days without a trap due to
          >>being unable to use Indonesian airspace to train. Normally it is when we
          >>are at sea that our readiness is at its very peak. Thanks to the
          >>Indonesian government, we have to waive our own safety rules just to get
          >>our pilots off the deck.
          >>In other words, the longer we stay here helping these people, the more
          >>dangerous it gets for us to operate. We have already lost one helicopter,
          >>which crashed in Banda Aceh while taking sailors ashore to unload
          >>supplies from the C-130s. There were no relief workers on that one.
          >>I'm all for helping the less fortunate, but it is time to give this
          >>mission to somebody other than the U.S. Navy. Our ship was supposed to be
          >>home on Feb. 3 and now we have no idea how long we will be here. American
          >>taxpayers are spending millions per day to keep this ship at sea and
          >>getting no training value out of it. As a result, we will come home in a
          >>lower state of readiness than when we left due to the lack of flying
          >>while supporting the tsunami relief effort.
          >>I hope we get some good PR in the Muslim world out of it. After all, this
          >>is Americans saving the lives of Muslims. I have my doubts.
          >>Ed Stanton is the pen name of a career U.S. Navy officer currently
          >>serving with the USS Abraham Lincoln carrier strike group.
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          • KRL
            Entrepreneur
            • Oct 2002
            • 31429

            #6
            Wow that US Navy letter is disturbing to the max.

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            • Nysus
              Confirmed User
              • Aug 2001
              • 7817

              #7
              That's really shitty.

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              • Head
                Confirmed User
                • Nov 2003
                • 8278

                #8
                That is a real fucking shame!!! Regards to the USS Abraham Lincoln carrier strike group.

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                • JFK
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                  • Jan 2002
                  • 67373

                  #9
                  when Disaster strikes like this, all the lowlifes come out of the woodwork to benefit from it

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                  • dirtydesignz
                    Confirmed User
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 1815

                    #10
                    Originally posted by JFK
                    when Disaster strikes like this, all the lowlifes come out of the woodwork to benefit from it
                    Boy thats the truth...
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                    • RP Fade
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                      • Sep 2003
                      • 3343

                      #11
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                      • Jace
                        FBOP Class Of 2013
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 35562

                        #12
                        Originally posted by sperbonzo
                        Check THIS out.....

                        /*Subject:*/ Tsunami Relief from the USS Lincoln

                        >>Subject: The USS Lincoln and Tsunami Relief
                        >>I can imagine that it truly has been a zoo out there. khl
                        >>01-20-2005 Guest Column: No Relief in Sight for the Lincoln By Ed Stanton
                        >>It has been three weeks since my ship, the USS Abraham Lincoln, arrived
                        >>off the Sumatran coast to aid the hundreds of thousands of victims of the
                        >>Dec. 26 tsunami that ravaged their coastline. I'd like to say that this
                        >>has been a rewarding experience for us, but it has not: Instead, it has
                        >>been a frustrating and needlessly dangerous exercise made even more
                        >>difficult by the Indonesian government and a traveling circus of
                        >>so-called aid workers who have invaded our spaces..
                        keep your eye on this page, what you just posted could also end up being fake

                        http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/lincoln.asp

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                        • Head
                          Confirmed User
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 8278

                          #13
                          Originally posted by JaceXXX
                          keep your eye on this page, what you just posted could also end up being fake

                          http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/lincoln.asp
                          I've bookmarked it but it sounds real enough to me. A little onesided but i feel it's mostly truthful.

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                          • reynold
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 51271

                            #14
                            Originally posted by KRL
                            This is the shit that really pisses me off to no end and is such a total bullshit reality when people give aid $$ to genuinely help suffering people and the sleazy businessmen step in to the picture and gouge the money from the aid $$$ we send by jacking up prices where all the aid organizations are operating.



                            http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp..._from_disaster

                            Yes, that sucks I know.

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                            • Joe Citizen
                              Confirmed User
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 4552

                              #15
                              Originally posted by KRL
                              This is the shit that really pisses me off to no end and is such a total bullshit reality when people give aid $$ to genuinely help suffering people and the sleazy businessmen step in to the picture and gouge the money from the aid $$$ we send by jacking up prices where all the aid organizations are operating.



                              http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp..._from_disaster
                              It's called capitalism, KRL.

                              Supply and demand.

                              You can make much more money from human misery!

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                              • TheMob
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 8584

                                #16
                                it's called capitalism, if you don't like it move to china.

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                                • SleazyDream
                                  I'm here for SPORT
                                  • Jul 2001
                                  • 41470

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by KRL
                                  This is the shit that really pisses me off to no end and is such a total bullshit reality when people give aid $$ to genuinely help suffering people and the sleazy businessmen step in to the picture and gouge the money from the aid $$$ we send by jacking up prices where all the aid organizations are operating.



                                  http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp..._from_disaster
                                  i thought 'sleazy' was a good term?
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                                  • pornstar2pac
                                    Omaha Hi/Lo
                                    • Nov 2003
                                    • 17380

                                    #18
                                    someone always has to make money
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                                    • Joe Citizen
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Oct 2003
                                      • 4552

                                      #19

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                                      • Joe Citizen
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Oct 2003
                                        • 4552

                                        #20

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                                        • Joe Citizen
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Oct 2003
                                          • 4552

                                          #21

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                                          • sonofsam
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Dec 2004
                                            • 18647

                                            #22
                                            im happy to have opened your thread and read what you wrote.. i was pleasantly suprised... because i was expecting to see a "why do we help them when nobody cares about america" kind of thread... props
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                                            • PHPdude
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Aug 2004
                                              • 1164

                                              #23
                                              the tsunami appeal is like so huge now i recon they could rebuild thier country ten times over.
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                                              • Dalai lama
                                                Strength and Honor
                                                • Jul 2004
                                                • 16540

                                                #24
                                                How sad


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                                                • richard
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                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                  • 543

                                                  #25
                                                  What did you think the money was going to be used for, building houses out of dollar bills?

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                                                  • DraX
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                    • 7147

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by KRL
                                                    This is the shit that really pisses me off to no end and is such a total bullshit reality when people give aid $$ to genuinely help suffering people and the sleazy businessmen step in to the picture and gouge the money from the aid $$$ we send by jacking up prices where all the aid organizations are operating.



                                                    http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp..._from_disaster
                                                    Nothing surprises me anymore, i also read a few articles past weeks about a few "legal" organisations raising money for the victims of the tsunami. The funds has to be divided 25% max to administration costs minimum 75% must go to the purpose of the raise. The numbers wasnt correct and they were talking about big organisations we are all familiar of. Also people in the top of the organisations had brand new jaguars as "company car". Stunning how people are greedy.

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