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coolfuck 01-26-2005 03:24 PM

Atm Profs?
 
i there any atm pros .. i mean people who know what info do they know about me when i take cash?>
stuff like that :winkwink:

Basic_man 01-26-2005 03:32 PM

I dont think ATM "'know" you by your card..

tungsten 01-26-2005 03:33 PM

wtf did you just say

Stephen 01-26-2005 03:35 PM

At the very least, they know who you are (at least the name on the card), and what your bank account number is, your PIN, all the transaction details, and most likely, the personally identifying information of the account holder (real name, address, phone, whatever info about you your bank has).

Many cards have this info encrypted on a chip inside of them (smart cards)

Holly 01-26-2005 03:38 PM

I thought you were looking for ass to mouth professors.

I was gonna apply.

sexdwarf 01-26-2005 03:49 PM

weee here it goes...

an ISO 3554 magnetic stripe card has three data tracks...the first one is 210 BPI at 7bits per character with parity and holds 79 alpha-numeric characters... the second one is 75 BPI at 5bits per character including parity and can hold 40 digits... the last track is at 210 BPI with 5bits per character including parity nd can hold 107 digits... of these three tracks, the top two are read-only while the last one is read/write; so in general most banks etc only use the first two tracks... due to this some cards even leave off the third track since it's intended purpose was off-line ATM authorization, but due to security risks etc they dropped that idea... if the ATM isn't connected then it won't let you withdraw money...

back to the question...the format of the first track in a mag-stripe card depends on the usage... for example the format of an ATM card is completely different then a starbucks card or a student id etc... the first tracks data usually contains cardholder information... a common ATM header layout contains:

- Account Number
- Country Code
- Name
- Expiration date
- Balance

these are all optional pieces of information... and this is obviously not the only data on there but they aren't anything interesting (e.g. start/end sentinels etc)...

so is it possible that your card holds alot of info about you? yes... same holds true for other card formats... a drivers licence holds the same information as on the card, who knows what a starbucks card holds... perhaps your last 10 orders ;)

oh yeah, track 2 isn;t as interesting, it generally holds the account number and expiration date... no personal info is stored there since it's mostly a numeric only formatted stripe...

hope this answers your question

sexdwarf 01-26-2005 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen
Many cards have this info encrypted on a chip inside of them (smart cards)

indeed smart cards is a whole other beast and has far more possibilities for storage, but also are protected by DES encryption etc...

coolfuck 01-26-2005 05:03 PM

ok i asked epassporte that question and they told me that ATMs dont have any info about me they only check if i can take the cash

sexdwarf 01-26-2005 05:08 PM

the info on the cards aren't stored in the atm... but think about it, most smaller atm machines at deli's greet you by your name before even entering your pin, which is before it performs it's dialup to the provider...

different cards work differently obviously... and wether the issueing company puts any info into the optional fields is completely up to them... so what epass says could be true for their cards...


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