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ADL Colin 01-26-2005 03:48 AM

Proof that Iraqi Democracy will look like American Democracy
 
Abd Al-rahman, a 24-year-old Iraq Force Protection Services employee says he'll vote for interim Prime Minister Ayad Allawi. He says he has received a 200,000 Iraqi dinar bonus from him.

MyNameIsEmily 01-26-2005 03:49 AM

article? link?

ADL Colin 01-26-2005 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MyNameIsEmily
article? link?

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/...ion/index.html

messiah1 01-26-2005 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Almighty Colin
Abd Al-rahman, a 24-year-old Iraq Force Protection Services employee says he'll vote for interim Prime Minister Ayad Allawi. He says he has received a 200,000 Iraqi dinar bonus from him.

Democracy does'nt exist anywhere in the world.

Kapitan Ivanov II 01-26-2005 05:54 AM

Democracy = communism with frills.

ADL Colin 01-26-2005 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by messiah1
Democracy does'nt exist anywhere in the world.

If you want to use the 18th century definition of the word. The term "democracy" has broadened quite a bit in the past three centuries or so. Many of the founders of the US, for example, used the term disparagingly whereas today its common usage is to refer to nations with representational government. Even as early as the 19th century we had de Tocqueville's classic "Democracy in America".

ADL Colin 01-26-2005 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Kapitan Ivanov II
Democracy = communism with frills.

Ahhh, you ex-commy's still don't understand democracy!

xclusive 01-26-2005 06:12 AM

not shocking

Rui 01-26-2005 06:18 AM

ohhhhh suprising! ...ummhh not really

Kapitan Ivanov II 01-26-2005 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Almighty Colin
Ahhh, you ex-commy's still don't understand democracy!

I agree, you and I share many similarities.

ADL Colin 01-26-2005 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Kapitan Ivanov II
I agree, you and I share many similarities.

What's there not to understand about communism? I find some of Marx' criticisms - for example- to be very worthy however he popularized a system that was in the end, inferior. He focused on history through the lens of class struggle but ignored fundamental psychology. In essence, he ignored the nature and causes of the wealth of nations.

Capitalism has won and countries like China are succeeding the more they adapt western free market ideals.

Kapitan Ivanov II 01-26-2005 06:35 AM

A similarity you might like: Democracy/Capitalism will fail and drag your culture down with it.

ADL Colin 01-26-2005 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Kapitan Ivanov II
A similarity you might like: Democracy/Capitalism will fail and drag your culture down with it.

Yes, Marx said that and what has happened is that capitalism and democracy have grown, spead and strengthened. It was a failed prediction of his. Don't confuse their failures with ours. Capitalism has been strong and building for many centuries. Democracy has spead from about three countries to 2/3 of the world in about a quarter millenium. The writing is on the wall. Need glasses?

ADL_JD 01-26-2005 06:58 AM

I hope Democracy succeeds in Iraq - followed by overzealous Capitalism - I just want to make sure there is a McD's and BK on every corner when I visit.


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