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OzMan 01-24-2005 05:16 PM

If you shot a handgun straight up in the air....
 
how high would the bullet go, say a 9mm.

My 6yo just asked me if it would go "higher than a mountain" :) so I am googling it to keep up his belief in his all knowing father but thought some gun freaks on here might know or have tried it. :glugglug

Evil1 01-24-2005 05:20 PM

a mile +/-

beemk 01-24-2005 05:20 PM

last time i checked mountains come in different sizes.

Aly 01-24-2005 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beemk
last time i checked mountains come in different sizes.

Not when you're six, silly!

jojo55 01-24-2005 05:23 PM

why don't you tie a tape measure to the end of a bullet and find out

nofx 01-24-2005 05:23 PM

feed your kid some Draino tonight and see if he asks you anymore crazy questions you cannot answer.

Pete 01-24-2005 05:23 PM

1 mile 27 1/2 feet 3.3 inches.

Aly 01-24-2005 05:25 PM

Of course, you might want to remind your six year old that what goes up must also come down... ...somewhere... :upsidedow

psyko514 01-24-2005 05:25 PM

Tell him to mind his business.

Or tell him it depends on the wind.

Fucksakes 01-24-2005 05:27 PM

when i was hunting i done that and the cool thing is the gun made no noice till like 5 secs later i would hear the noice.

Mr Pheer 01-24-2005 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fucksakes
when i was hunting i done that and the cool thing is the gun made no noice till like 5 secs later i would hear the noice.

wtf? noice?

dumbass.

Mike Okitch 01-24-2005 05:33 PM

That's a cute question from your kid OzMan :)

But would it go higher than a mountain? Who knows really. In my apartment, if I shot, it wouldn't go higher than the butt of my fat bitchy upstairs neighbor :Graucho

SmokeyTheBear 01-24-2005 05:45 PM

http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/que...php?number=617

might help figure it out

Holly 01-24-2005 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrPheer
wtf? noice?

dumbass.

:1orglaugh

comeplay 01-24-2005 05:49 PM

a handgun bullet can travel around 2 miles

OzMan 01-24-2005 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

Interesting link, air resistance is a bigger factor than I had thought.

Thanks for the replies, I also figured about a mile straight up but now thinking maybe it's less.

Yes I did inform my son that mountains do come in various sizes :winkwink:

And about the what goes up must come down, haven't you ever wondered with all the guns shot in the air for NY Eve, July 4 or just for the hell of it, why you never hear of them hitting someone when they come down?

nofx 01-24-2005 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OzMan
And about the what goes up must come down, haven't you ever wondered with all the guns shot in the air for NY Eve, July 4 or just for the hell of it, why you never hear of then hitting someone when they come down?

LOL are you serious about that?

psyko514 01-24-2005 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OzMan
And about the what goes up must come down, haven't you ever wondered with all the guns shot in the air for NY Eve, July 4 or just for the hell of it, why you never hear of them hitting someone when they come down?

It happens all the time, actually.

OzMan 01-24-2005 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nofx
LOL are you serious about that?

deadly serious, I know the chances are very small but I don't remember ever seeing a news report about it.

hydro 01-24-2005 06:15 PM

a more intresting question would be if that bullet would be lethal if it came down on somebody

Chrome 01-24-2005 06:17 PM

When i worked for a newspaper south of Denver....
 
the bullet shot into the air.. did come down. Right into a kids head.

swedguy 01-24-2005 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hydro
a more intresting question would be if that bullet would be lethal if it came down on somebody

It would make a hole in your head. The speed would be 9.8 meters per second (32 feet per sec).

whodarkman 01-24-2005 06:19 PM

Give him a gun and tell him to test it out for his next school project.

OzMan 01-24-2005 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hydro
a more intresting question would be if that bullet would be lethal if it came down on somebody

yeah I am sure it wouldn't be as fast because of air resistance but like chrome said above apparently it is still fast enough to be lethal.

There is that old story about a penny dropped off the Empire State or wherever being as deadly as a bullet by the time it gets to ground level. :glugglug

OzMan 01-24-2005 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swedguy
It would make a hole in your head. The speed would be 9.8 meters per second (32 feet per sec).

no that is the acceleration due to gravity without factoring in air resistance

Myst 01-24-2005 06:27 PM

When fired from a Beretta 92S, the standard issue US Army pistol, a 9 mm Parabellum bullet has a muzzle velocity of 335 m/s. (google)

0 = 335^2 + 2(-9.81)d
d = 5719m
= 5.7km

amateurs

Meta Ridley 01-24-2005 06:29 PM

http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a950414b.html


Read this :)

OzMan 01-24-2005 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myst
When fired from a Beretta 92S, the standard issue US Army pistol, a 9 mm Parabellum bullet has a muzzle velocity of 335 m/s. (google)

0 = 335^2 + 2(-9.81)d
d = 5719m
= 5.7km

amateurs

you live in a vaccuum? :winkwink:

swedguy 01-24-2005 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OzMan
no that is the acceleration due to gravity without factoring in air resistance

Yeah, I realized that after the 3 minute edit time had passed :)

OzMan 01-24-2005 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meta Ridley

thanks :thumbsup

Myst 01-24-2005 06:33 PM

the velocity at the distance from the ground where the bullet was fired is the same up as it is down..

so if u were standing right under a gun as its fired up, the bullet would go up, come down, and it would strike u with the same speed as though the gun were pointed at your head directly in the first place

this is assuming no wind or air friction tho

swedguy 01-24-2005 06:34 PM

http://van.hep.uiuc.edu/van/qa/secti...0310160956.htm

Quote:

However, if you shoot a bullet straight up, it will take quite a long time for it to fall again. When the bullet reaches the top of its trajectory and starts to fall again, the speed that it gains is due only to gravity. At some speed, the force of air resistance (which depends on velocity) will equal the force of gravity (which does not depend on velocity). This is what's referred to as 'terminal velocity.' All falling objects have a terminal velocity. The smaller the object is, the higher the terminal velocity. For a bullet, one estimate that I have read for terminal velocity is around 300 ft/sec (about 200 mph). Since that's a lot slower than a bullet leaves a gun nozzle, it seems that the air resistance really will have a big effect on the speed of the falling bullet.
300 ft/sec is pretty fast.

Myst 01-24-2005 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OzMan
you live in a vaccuum? :winkwink:

3 mins over and i couldnt edit it :)

but i dont see how it would be that big a difference

JohnW 01-24-2005 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fucksakes
when i was hunting i done that and the cool thing is the gun made no noice till like 5 secs later i would hear the noice.

holy fuck man...

"...i done that..." ???
"noice" ???

Jesus fucking christ...I cannot believe you just typed that without thinking that you sound like a complete fucking waste of skin...You ought to be ashamed of yourself...Do you even have a Grade 2 education?

JESUS CHRIST!!! I'm ashamed to be Canadian after reading that...

J.

pxxx 01-24-2005 06:57 PM

That is pretty good question.

desus 01-24-2005 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OzMan
And about the what goes up must come down, haven't you ever wondered with all the guns shot in the air for NY Eve, July 4 or just for the hell of it, why you never hear of them hitting someone when they come down?

they do hit people. I know a girls uncle who was killed on new years when a bullet that had been shot in the air came back down and struck him.

i'd tell you more stories by 24 is on, lol

brand0n 01-24-2005 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nofx
feed your kid some Draino tonight and see if he asks you anymore crazy questions you cannot answer.

thats fuuuuuuuuuuuccccckkkkkkkkeeeeddd up.

i know im from the south, and we get a little hot easyer then most, but them there is fightin words where im from

flashfire 01-24-2005 07:07 PM

I would have to agree with about 1 mile

SleazyDream 01-24-2005 07:10 PM

csi did a show where someone got killed doing a stunt like that.

how far it would go would depend on a lot. assuming no wind factors elevation would play a big roll, as would the amount of gunpowder in the bullet - the weight of the bullet, the shape, material, and amount of tristing the bullet would get from the barrel, etc.

BV 01-24-2005 07:16 PM

Also explain to him that if you fired that 9mm round straight ahead of you perpindicular with the ground with one hand and at the same time with the other hand dropped a 9mm slug, they would both hit the ground at the same time. (in theory) minus a few variables like earth curvature etc..

wedouglas 01-24-2005 07:31 PM

im not so sure it would be lethal falling down again....hail falls from much higher up and isnt lethal...also the bullet would have to come straight down on its tip for it to acheive maximum velocity....aerodynamic drag is dependent on surface area in contact with some scientific constants that i dont recall...gamma is one of the varibale i beleive...butanyway...300ft/s im not so sure about that. force = mass x acceleration and its acceleration is roughly 9.8m/s^2 if there is no aero drag and the mass is very very low seeing as Newtons is measure in kgm/s^2. so it may fall fast but i doubt its lethal

Ron Bennett 01-24-2005 07:38 PM

Hail can be lethal ... also a bullet is very dense compared to hail - likely experience less air resistance and furthermore likely to do inflict *more* damage/injury than a hail stone of similar size.

Ron

desus 01-24-2005 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wedouglas
im not so sure it would be lethal falling down again....hail falls from much higher up and isnt lethal...also the bullet would have to come straight down on its tip for it to acheive maximum velocity....aerodynamic drag is dependent on surface area in contact with some scientific constants that i dont recall...gamma is one of the varibale i beleive...butanyway...300ft/s im not so sure about that. force = mass x acceleration and its acceleration is roughly 9.8m/s^2 if there is no aero drag and the mass is very very low seeing as Newtons is measure in kgm/s^2. so it may fall fast but i doubt its lethal

it is lethal
http://www.galleryofguns.com/shootin...es.asp?ID=6619

that math gave me a killer headache man. lol

Penthouse Tony 01-24-2005 08:09 PM

If you know the speed of the bullet then there is an equation you can calculate the distance it will travel while it loses 9.8 meters a second. At its peak it will be at a standstill for a split second and then it will start to speed up at 9.8 meters per second as it drops. Assuming the bullet lands in a spot with the exact elevation that it was shot from it will be traveling at the same speed on impact as when it was fired.

If the bullet was fired horizontally it would travel at a constant speed it left the chamber at (assuming no wind resistance) until gravity pulls it down to the ground at a rate of 9.8 meters per second.

wedouglas 01-24-2005 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by desus
it is lethal
http://www.galleryofguns.com/shootin...es.asp?ID=6619

that math gave me a killer headache man. lol

stray gunfire isnt perfect though. those deaths could by bullets boucning and deflecting off close walls etc. i doubt anyone shoots 100% straight up and if they did i still dont think it would be fatal. most stray bullets arent coming down, they are still going out. :2 cents:

beemk 01-24-2005 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wedouglas
stray gunfire isnt perfect though. those deaths could by bullets boucning and deflecting off close walls etc. i doubt anyone shoots 100% straight up and if they did i still dont think it would be fatal. most stray bullets arent coming down, they are still going out. :2 cents:

shut the fuck up newbie

Wiggles 01-24-2005 09:59 PM

just make up some shit, its more fun that way.

axelcat 01-24-2005 09:59 PM

very very high

theking 01-24-2005 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OzMan
deadly serious, I know the chances are very small but I don't remember ever seeing a news report about it.

It has happened many times.

brizzad 01-24-2005 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nofx
feed your kid some Draino tonight and see if he asks you anymore crazy questions you cannot answer.


dont waste perfectly good draino on his intestines, just mix the draino on a bottle with some tin foil, there's more fun to be had :thumbsup


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