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aflex 01-22-2005 10:23 PM

"At Will" employment contracts
 
I'll be graduating college in about 5 weeks. I have already landed a position at a local IT company that looks really promising. They will pay me pretty much to "learn", and carry out system admin responsibilities. Certification goals will be set and I have to reach them.

On my formal employment offer, it states the following

"If you accept this offer for employment, your employment with XXX will be ?At Will?. As a result, you will be free to resign from your employment at any time, and XXXXX may terminate its employment relationship with you at any time, with or without cause. "

From what I understand, they are covering their asses incase I suck. But I am wondering if formal Employment offer sheets like this should contain information about benefits / health insurance. Or is this document more suited for the acceptance of the position for the set salary and "at will" status.

Do any of you have any knowledge or experience wit "At Will" employment contracts, was there benefits, or any kind of guaranteed time at the company?

seeric 01-22-2005 10:25 PM

thats a typical work for hire thing anyhow.

both of you are covered.


actualy in cali this type of thing is the norm. either party can term at anytime. if its not working out, who really wants to be involved anyhow, right?

aflex 01-22-2005 10:34 PM

A1R3K, I completely agree.

I have not spoken to my contact there about benefits yet, so I'm kicking around the idea that by signing this contract, I could be signing away any rights to benefits.

Is it the norm for this employment offer be sent with no details of benefits?

StacyCat 01-23-2005 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aflex
A1R3K, I completely agree.

I have not spoken to my contact there about benefits yet, so I'm kicking around the idea that by signing this contract, I could be signing away any rights to benefits.

Is it the norm for this employment offer be sent with no details of benefits?

Yes. Your contract is for your employment. The benifits come later.

Texas is an at will state, either party can call it quits at any time for any non discriminatory reason.

Are you worried about your benifits? Is something shady about the company that you think they will gip you on them? You can ask HR to put the benifits schedule in writing. But, do it AFTER you sign the employment agreement.

junction 01-23-2005 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aflex
A1R3K, I completely agree.

I have not spoken to my contact there about benefits yet, so I'm kicking around the idea that by signing this contract, I could be signing away any rights to benefits.

LMAO....and you're graduating soon?

Is this your first job ever?

jt420 01-23-2005 01:05 AM

seems like the norm.

the Shemp 01-23-2005 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aflex
I'll be graduating college in about 5 weeks. I have already landed a position at a local IT company that looks really promising. They will pay me pretty much to "learn", and carry out system admin responsibilities. Certification goals will be set and I have to reach them.

On my formal employment offer, it states the following

"If you accept this offer for employment, your employment with XXX will be ?At Will?. As a result, you will be free to resign from your employment at any time, and XXXXX may terminate its employment relationship with you at any time, with or without cause. "

From what I understand, they are covering their asses incase I suck. But I am wondering if formal Employment offer sheets like this should contain information about benefits / health insurance. Or is this document more suited for the acceptance of the position for the set salary and "at will" status.

Do any of you have any knowledge or experience wit "At Will" employment contracts, was there benefits, or any kind of guaranteed time at the company?

"at will" means notice is not required for quitting or for being let go... so it is a "condition of employment" other conditions would be your salary and your benefits....a decent employer would have presented that to you along with the "at will" condition.......

beemk 01-23-2005 01:28 AM

i wonder if they will make you change the laptop batteries

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 01-23-2005 01:33 AM

Your under contract you get no beneifits.
No Medical,no dental no eye etc...

401K no.

rj2kix 01-23-2005 10:27 PM

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aflex 01-24-2005 09:15 PM

Just to follow this post up.. I ended up getting full benefits.. health insurance/dental/401k etc etc. The "At will" Employment offer sheet pretty much secured my position with the company. They covered their asses legally with it.

seeric 01-24-2005 09:45 PM

sweet

basically at will is the best. if anyone isnt happy, its all over.

jukeboxfrank 01-24-2005 09:55 PM

It means you have no contract but agree to work there and they agree to hire you. You secured nothing.

beemk 01-24-2005 09:58 PM

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aflex 01-24-2005 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jukeboxfrank
It means you have no contract but agree to work there and they agree to hire you. You secured nothing.

Nothing is secure anymore.

aflex 01-24-2005 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by beemk

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beemk 01-24-2005 10:06 PM

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The Adult Broker 01-24-2005 10:53 PM

This is a great site and recommend all At-Will employees to read it.

http://jobsearchtech.about.com/od/la...aa092402_2.htm

I also recommend other areas of site such as termination rights, severence, et. al.

better to be informed instead of learning a lesson later. ahem.

D Flower 01-24-2005 11:01 PM

This is very common in the corporate world. Usually employment offer letters won't list benefits, but that doesn't mean you won't get them. California is one of the states where you can be an "at will" employee.

Good luck with the new job!!


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