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Alex 01-18-2005 04:54 PM

Would it be more effective to link to join page from galleries/freesites or to tour?
 
See title.

If is more effective to link to the site tour or site join page from a freesite or gallery.

I mean, the surfer has probably already seen enough porn for the day and if you link him to the tour he is going to see even more of it from free trailers and etc, so is it okay to just link him to the join page with text saying something like

"See full movies.... Join for only $4.95....yada yada yada"


Would that have a more chance of a signup or would it piss him off that he already has to whip out a CC and just exit the page.

Discuss.

Meta Ridley 01-18-2005 04:55 PM

What do your stats say?

Alex 01-18-2005 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meta Ridley
What do your stats say?

10%-12% CTR from gallery to sponsor
20% CTR from front page to join page
1:50 ratio (second page hits)

If that helps :(

Alex 01-18-2005 05:04 PM

God forbid anyone posts in a biz related thread at GFY :(

Dalai lama 01-18-2005 05:05 PM

Yes it works.

freeadultcontent 01-18-2005 05:11 PM

May or may not work well. Its one of those ponderables that you must test for yourself. Trying to state what your traffic to your galleries will do given the choice, is just about impossible to predict.
Would not know if your gallery was as good as it could be and if it really sold the site or not.
Would not know if the tour could turn them off or finalize the sale.

andrej_NDC 01-18-2005 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaliboy2g
10%-12% CTR from gallery to sponsor
20% CTR from front page to join page
1:50 ratio (second page hits)

If that helps :(

so you make 40 sales out of 100k gallery visitors? interresting :upsidedow

Alex 01-18-2005 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC
so you make 40 sales out of 100k gallery visitors? interresting :upsidedow

Wait hang on. That cant be right.
Give me a min. I did this off the top of my head :error

Alex 01-18-2005 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaliboy2g
Wait hang on. That cant be right.
Give me a min. I did this off the top of my head :error

Lol for starters its 1:150 :) Although i wish i had 1:50

And seconldy to be more exact the CTR from front page to second page is 14.6%

So that amounts to 9 sales per 100k

seven 01-18-2005 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC
so you make 40 sales out of 100k gallery visitors? interresting :upsidedow

He said 1:50 2nd page hit count that could be eqv of 1:5000 1st page hit count so no, he doesn't get 40 sales out of 100k gallery visitors nevertheless, 10-12% CTR from gallie to sponsor is more than awesome if it's for real :)

andrej_NDC 01-18-2005 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaliboy2g
Lol for starters its 1:150 :) Although i wish i had 1:50

And seconldy to be more exact the CTR from front page to second page is 14.6%

So that amounts to 9 sales per 100k

1 sale out of 10k gallery visitors is good, you know, change nothing that works. If it stop, then start doing tests. :)

swoop 01-18-2005 05:32 PM

Link to a join I think. Like you said they have seen porn all day, why not give them the end result.

andrej_NDC 01-18-2005 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seven
He said 1:50 2nd page hit count that could be eqv of 1:5000 1st page hit count so no, he doesn't get 40 sales out of 100k gallery visitors nevertheless

he said the CTR to the join page is 20%, that means 250 1st page hits. But he corrected his numbers now.

btw 5000 1st page hits and 50 2nd page is so bad, I cant imagine a paysite with such low CTR :)

Alex 01-18-2005 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC
1 sale out of 10k gallery visitors is good, you know, change nothing that works. If it stop, then start doing tests. :)

Right, but this is freesites. If i got 1sale out of 10k that hit the warning page i would shut up and count my checks.

The CTR is from the gallery which means the surfer has to go through the warning page and the main page before he hits a gallery so its not 1 per 10k that hit the freesite it can be as much as one per 17k-20k that hit the freesite which is the average.

Alex 01-18-2005 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC
he said the CTR to the join page is 20%, that means 250 1st page hits. But he corrected his numbers now.

btw 5000 1st page hits and 50 2nd page is so bad, I cant imagine a paysite with such low CTR :)

No, out of 5k front page hits i get about 1k second page hits which i think is good.

Alex 01-18-2005 05:39 PM

Thats why i think if i link to the main page with a text that tells the surfer the exact price i would generate more sales, and since i get a PPS fee that is 7x the amount of the trial cost i have nothing to lose.

eroswebmaster 01-18-2005 05:40 PM

My best sales came from sending them from a gallery page to an aggressive fpa/hpa or tour I built myself and then directly to a jon page.

Napolean 01-18-2005 05:41 PM

careful, just posting questions like these have resulted in terminated partner accounts :O

andrej_NDC 01-18-2005 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaliboy2g
Right, but this is freesites. If i got 1sale out of 10k that hit the warning page i would shut up and count my checks.

The CTR is from the gallery which means the surfer has to go through the warning page and the main page before he hits a gallery so its not 1 per 10k that hit the freesite it can be as much as one per 17k-20k that hit the freesite which is the average.

well, if its free site gallery, you can afford more links, so just use both, link to a tour and also to the join page directly

andrej_NDC 01-18-2005 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eroswebmaster
My best sales came from sending them from a gallery page to an aggressive fpa/hpa or tour I built myself and then directly to a jon page.

yes, good FPA-> join page works!

seven 01-18-2005 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC
he said the CTR to the join page is 20%, that means 250 1st page hits.

He said 20% to join page does not necessarily mean 20% to 2nd page too. You could have a 100 links going to join page from 1st page but only 1 link going to 2nd page from 1st page would make a big diff in CTR. I know some major sponsors that do 1% 1st to 2nd page but 20% 1st to join :Oh crap

Pornopat 01-18-2005 05:46 PM

I tend to link to a fpa

andrej_NDC 01-18-2005 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seven
He said 20% to join page does not necessarily mean 20% to 2nd page too. You could have a 100 links going to join page from 1st page but only 1 link going to 2nd page from 1st page would make a big diff in CTR. I know some major sponsors that do 1% 1st to 2nd page but 20% 1st to join :Oh crap

Im sure he meant 2nd page with join page hits in this case. I dont mean billing join page now, just the paysite join page with some info, pre-filled forms, etc

pxxx 01-18-2005 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornopat
I tend to link to a fpa

I also tend to do the same. Results will very with different techniques.

Alex 01-18-2005 07:04 PM

I think im going to try the link to fpa and then join page. :)
Thanks

Babagirls 01-18-2005 07:13 PM

i use join links on my hub with sales text that says "3 Day Trial-$4.75" blah blah blah
or "Free Tour" (which, of course, links to the tour)

maxjohan 01-18-2005 07:47 PM

http://www.johansafsten.com/freesitetraffic.jpg

Sometimes it works really well. This is from about 10k hits to the main page of freesite. you tweak it and find perfection :)

DEA - banned for life 01-18-2005 07:49 PM

Tour :thumbsup but wtf do i know

Alex 01-18-2005 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEA
Tour :thumbsup but wtf do i know


God you're a pathetic sigwhore :1orglaugh



For those that use the Freesite to FPA to Join page.

How much traffic do you lose on the FPA part.

Whts the CTR from the FPA to the join?

QualityMpegs 01-18-2005 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaliboy2g
God you're a pathetic sigwhore :1orglaugh



For those that use the Freesite to FPA to Join page.

How much traffic do you lose on the FPA part.

Whts the CTR from the FPA to the join?

This is what I wanna know too...FPA just seems like a way to make people go through an extra step, only to produce better conversions, but less sales.

Alex 01-18-2005 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QualityMpegs
This is what I wanna know too...FPA just seems like a way to make people go through an extra step, only to produce better conversions, but less sales.


I would rather send 5k direct to a join page and convert 1:500 and make ten sales

Then send 5k to an FPA and get 2.5k to the join page and convert at 1:300 which means less sales.

seven 01-18-2005 10:56 PM

I'd say send them to a tour (bypassing warning page ofcourse) better yet make your own tour linked to sponsor join form if you are serious about certain sponsor. TGP surfers would like to sample much, they'd wanna know precisely what to expect inside.. they've seen tons of worthless sites and want to limit the wasting of their money so show them some real samples of what your sponsor offers :2 cents:


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