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tgi 01-15-2005 02:18 PM

Question to ALL AFFILIATE PROGRAMS
 
I've been submitting to TGPs for quite some time now and am expanding my "operations" these days. I have a question. So far I've been using the Free Content that many programs provide, to create my own galleries.

But now I want to start submitting FHGs. The only problem is that TGPs require recip links. My question is, can I copy the FHG design & thumbnails to my own server, where I can easily add recip links at the top of the gallery, but still HOT LINK to images stored on the program's server? It's really the same as having the surfer browse the FHG itself.. This way I just make my life easier and am able to add recip links to the TGP. OF COURSE, I will not advertise any other program with your galleries, etc. I just don't have that much bandwidth, and I wonder if this will be okay with the programs.

Dirty Dane 01-15-2005 02:20 PM

maybe you should ask the tgp owners too

tgi 01-15-2005 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane
maybe you should ask the tgp owners too

Why would they care? I've been doing this for a long time. Only thing is, I always used to also store the big images on my box as well.

David! 01-15-2005 02:22 PM

1-Ask program to make sure they allow you to use their fhg's as template as well as using the content in them. (lots will do)
2-Find a program that offers free hosting.

SmutGiant 01-15-2005 02:22 PM

I'd be more worried about getting your gallery accepted by the tgp's using that method. Most tgps won't accept galleries with content/images hosted on seperate domains.

SteveLightspeed 01-15-2005 02:24 PM

Free hosted galleries aren't really made to be submitted as YOUR OWN galleries, as much as easy to list galleries for the tgp owners themselves.

We provide a freehost for you to make your own galleries, but we ask that you don't copy our hosted galleries because we pay the designers of those galleries on a per join basis, so its not fair to them to have their work "borrowed" without compensation.

Steve Lightspeed

Dirty Dane 01-15-2005 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tgi
Why would they care? I've been doing this for a long time. Only thing is, I always used to also store the big images on my box as well.

maybe not everyone cares, but some might not accept FHG templates, even if they are hosted on your own server.

tgi 01-15-2005 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lightspeed
Free hosted galleries aren't really made to be submitted as YOUR OWN galleries, as much as easy to list galleries for the tgp owners themselves.

We provide a freehost for you to make your own galleries, but we ask that you don't copy our hosted galleries because we pay the designers of those galleries on a per join basis, so its not fair to them to have their work "borrowed" without compensation.

Steve Lightspeed

Adding recip links make it MY OWN gallery? It's still yours, I just can't get it listed with recip links..

tgi 01-15-2005 02:27 PM

I've seen MANY MANY TGP listings that simply grab the FHG design, put it on their domain and add recip links. Even Lightspeedcash' ones. I just thought that as long as they really promote the program it's fine.

Elli 01-15-2005 02:28 PM

Also, as soon as you put the stuff on your own server, you're opening up yourself to 2257 issues. So quickly we forget...

BVF 01-15-2005 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tgi
Adding recip links make it MY OWN gallery? It's still yours, I just can't get it listed with recip links..

stop being cheap. you were already told that it isn't a good idea to submit fhg's to tgp's and you still won't listen.

Damn some people are clueless....you remind me of my ex-wife

tgi 01-15-2005 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elli
Also, as soon as you put the stuff on your own server, you're opening up yourself to 2257 issues. So quickly we forget...

I can add a 2257 note on each page, that shouldn't be a problem.. or am I wrong?

PrivateIvy 01-15-2005 02:29 PM

Use a program ( like mine of course...hehe) where they give you zipped content, zipped templates etc and that offer to host anything you like for promo of the program :thumbsup

Ivy

tgi 01-15-2005 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF
stop being cheap. you were already told that it isn't a good idea to submit fhg's to tgp's and you still won't listen.

Damn some people are clueless....you remind me of my ex-wife

Why being cheap? People submit FHGs all the time.. lol, what's the difference?

BVF 01-15-2005 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PrivateIvy
Use a program ( like mine of course...hehe) where they give you zipped content, zipped templates etc and that offer to host anything you like for promo of the program :thumbsup

Ivy

You're right. I used that idea myself and now have zipped content available. There was no reason that I shouldn't have had it in the first place.

SmutGiant 01-15-2005 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tgi
I've seen MANY MANY TGP listings that simply grab the FHG design, put it on their domain and add recip links. Even Lightspeedcash' ones. I just thought that as long as they really promote the program it's fine.

If you've seen "MANY" fhg template listings, chances are so have the surfers. You'd make more $$ with something fresh anyways. We at Soulcash offer all our galleries in downloadable zip files, so you can download them and edit them with a touch of your own creativity :winkwink:

BVF 01-15-2005 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tgi
Why being cheap? People submit FHGs all the time.. lol, what's the difference?

People commit suicide all the time also. Submitting copied fhg's with free content in the year 2005 is the lowest of low. Go buy you some content and make your own galleries you lazy fuck.

FHG's are for tgp OWNERS who want to list the galleries on their sites. They're not for third party low level gallery submitters to use to submit galleries with.

SteveLightspeed 01-15-2005 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tgi
Adding recip links make it MY OWN gallery? It's still yours, I just can't get it listed with recip links..


I mean when its served from your domain, that makes it YOUR gallery. Our hosted galleries are tightly integrated to our Lightspeed4 system, each gallery is submitted by a designer (we keep track of it by url). So if you move it to another url, we lose track of who the original designer is, and he goes unpaid.

Steve Lightspeed

Dirty Dane 01-15-2005 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tgi
I've seen MANY MANY TGP listings that simply grab the FHG design, put it on their domain and add recip links. Even Lightspeedcash' ones. I just thought that as long as they really promote the program it's fine.

Because "everyone" else do it, does not mean it's ok. Many people have specials deals with the sponsors, if they are a good salesmen. Read TOS first.

If I were you, I would rather build a TGP myself and use the hosted galleries there. Many TGPs with 1 gallery vs. 1 TGP with many galleries....you can make money both ways.

tgi 01-15-2005 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF
People commit suicide all the time also. Submitting copied fhg's with free content in the year 2005 is the lowest of low. Go buy you some content and make your own galleries you lazy fuck.

FHG's are for tgp OWNERS who want to list the galleries on their sites. They're not for third party low level gallery submitters to use to submit galleries with.

Got it. That's all you should have said :thumbsup

But using free zipped content provided by programs to create my OWN GALLERIES (with my own design) and submitting with TGPs should be fine then?

Shannon G 01-15-2005 02:35 PM

With us, you can either have headers/footers for your recips added in for each gallery through our affiliate area or, you can save the gallery to your own server and tweak it in whatever way you need to.

Basically, whatever you need to do to get your traffic funneled and moving where you need it to is fine.

BVF 01-15-2005 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tgi
Got it. That's all you should have said :thumbsup

But using free zipped content provided by programs to create my OWN GALLERIES (with my own design) and submitting with TGPs should be fine then?

yes that's fine.

iBanker 01-15-2005 02:36 PM

Every program is different. Our program for example, would be fine with the fact that you put a recip link on one of our galleries, insofar that you host it your self, which essentially make it your gallery.

I mean, lets look at the big picture. You are still promoting OUR program, and that makes us happy. Hit me up if you have any questions about our galleries.

GigoloJustin 01-15-2005 02:37 PM

Hit me up. We will buy you your own domains, host the galleries, give you free content, and even pay a designer to make the galleries. I'm 100% possitive you will be impressed with our program.

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rebel23 01-15-2005 02:38 PM

there are plenty of progs that will give you zip files of content etc.. even if they dont say so, ask them.. you never know.

you have to be prepared to make an investment in hosting, maybe share a server or something.. it's not expensive

tgi 01-15-2005 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iBanker
I mean, lets look at the big picture. You are still promoting OUR program, and that makes us happy. Hit me up if you have any questions about our galleries.

Exactly my point :) :thumbsup

SteveLightspeed 01-15-2005 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tgi
I've seen MANY MANY TGP listings that simply grab the FHG design, put it on their domain and add recip links. Even Lightspeedcash' ones. I just thought that as long as they really promote the program it's fine.

The way our Gallery Revshare Program works, a person can make a gallery of their own, submit it themselves from their own servers, then also give it to us as a freehosted gallery. I suspect you are seeing that in action. If you design galleries, you might want to try out our GRS program yourself, its a great way to make extra money from your work building galleries. We provide new zipped content daily (every new member's area update is also immediately added to the free promo content in our Lightspeedcash affiliate area) so its easy to get content that no one has seen yet.

Steve Lightspeed

iBanker 01-15-2005 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tgi
Exactly my point :) :thumbsup

I find it hard to believe that any program would have a problem with it, but just in case, check :)

Dirty Dane 01-15-2005 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lightspeed

We provide a freehost for you to make your own galleries, but we ask that you don't copy our hosted galleries because we pay the designers of those galleries on a per join basis, so its not fair to them to have their work "borrowed" without compensation.

I dont get it. Why should designers payment depend on how affiliates push the traffic?

Major (Tom) 01-15-2005 02:49 PM

No I Dont allow it. Buck up 20 bucks and have a template made. If you can prove that you are a good submitter with plenty of partner accounts I will have templates made for you by good designers, not phillipinos.

Duke

SteveLightspeed 01-15-2005 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane
I dont get it. Why should designers payment depend on how affiliates push the traffic?

I mean when its served from your domain, that makes it YOUR gallery. Our hosted galleries are tightly integrated to our Lightspeed4 system, each gallery is submitted by a designer (we keep track of it by url). So if you move it to another url, we lose track of who the original designer is, and he goes unpaid.

On the flipside, if you submit one of your own galleries for us to convert into a hosted Lightspeed gallery, you can use it yourself, and make a commission for others using it as well. In other words, you can make money from someone else's traffic! And we're not talking about a LITTLE traffic, how would you like this many eyeballs on your gallery?

http://stats.paycounter.com/rankings/rank_Teen_0.php

Steve Lightspeed

iBanker 01-15-2005 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane
I dont get it. Why should designers payment depend on how affiliates push the traffic?

Depending on how much traffic you CAN send, and actually do, we are more than happy to give you our designer for a day (Amp)....and have him emake some galleries for you custom....

We will go out of our way for the big affiliates as well as the small...


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