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ronaldo 01-14-2005 02:21 AM

Should female tennis players get paid the same as men...
 
when they only play best of 3 in the major tournaments, and the men play best of 5?

Most women I know say obviously not, but a couple of them truly believe they should split the prize money evenly between men and women.

To me, that's like saying a women should be paid the same salary as a man, but she only has to work 6 hours a day, while the man has to work 8 hours a day.

Not meaning to sound sexist in the least btw. If they played best of 5, then they SHOULD split the prize money 50/50.

Twe Russ 01-14-2005 02:22 AM

I dont see why not. Actually I guess I see why not. :winkwink:

wes 01-14-2005 02:23 AM

No, they shouldnt.
-wes

sharpx9 01-14-2005 02:24 AM

who cares

adamneve 01-14-2005 02:33 AM

maria sharapova should

flashfire 01-14-2005 02:35 AM

depends how much money womens tennis generates...hitting a tennis ball with a raquet is nothing unless people are paying to watch

xclusive 01-14-2005 03:01 AM

I think they should get an even share of what their part of the tourney pulls in including tv rights and everything else.

Vitasoy 01-14-2005 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamneve
maria sharapova should

I agree, she brings in the viewers.

Lee 01-14-2005 04:28 AM

If they play matches of the same duration then personally I think that would be cool. However the other thing to consider is that the womens game doesnt have the pull of the mens. Its like the Olmypics 100m final. The mens race is probably the ultimate event at the games, whereas the womens simply isnt nowhere near it.

kmanrox 01-14-2005 04:33 AM

females shouldn't be allowed to play any professional sports. I mean , if we wanted to watch second rate sports we just go watch a high school men's team play, am I right?

Joesho 01-14-2005 07:33 AM

They should get payed double what the men do.... and be made to go topless IMHO

with no panties under the skirt!!!!

Spunky 01-14-2005 07:36 AM

Sure why not? They may be the weaker sex but they train just as hard

nico-t 01-14-2005 07:39 AM

when hingis used to play i loved to watch female tennis... that bitch is so damn hot... but that wasnt the question right?

ronaldo 01-14-2005 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joesho
They should get payed double what the men do.... and be made to go topless IMHO

with no panties under the skirt!!!!

I agree with the topless Joe, because that would surely bring in more money. But if they didn't wear panties, I think the game would be forever tarnished when Amelie Mauresmo's penis was actually shown.
http://images.athleteline.com/photog...imbledon03.jpg

RobD 01-14-2005 08:26 AM

Women donīt bring as much money/viewers than men do. They play less time. Games are much easier for them, the top ten usually smoke the rest in a heartbeat, when in menīs tennis number 1 can have a hard time beating number 80 (or not, but it happens), so tournaments are much tougher to them, as a result they have to choose to play less or get injured constantly. So to me is a big fat NO. And I have nothing against women in sports, but I just donīt think itīs fair :2 cents:

born4porn 01-14-2005 08:30 AM

women should get the same $$$! :thumbsup

crockett 01-14-2005 08:38 AM

Should male models get paid the same as female models?

Mefo 01-14-2005 08:42 AM

no, only when they play games just as long as the guys

RobD 01-14-2005 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett
Should male models get paid the same as female models?

exactly :thumbsup

nico-t 01-14-2005 08:51 AM

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ADL_JD 01-14-2005 08:54 AM

It should be a numbers game. It shouldn't have anything to do with how hard they play, how many sets, how many tournaments, etc. If they draw, if they can seel tickets, sell advertising, then they will demand more and should get it. Luckily it is a capitalistic market and tournaments offer a purse. If that purse is too low players won't show up... and if that purse is large enough the top players come!

Simple as that.

MacDaddyPlaya 01-14-2005 08:59 AM

Its all about sponsorship and TV money. Mens tennis is a bigger draw, makes more money, so the men get paid more. Sound just to me.

ronaldo 01-14-2005 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADL_JD
It should be a numbers game. It shouldn't have anything to do with how hard they play, how many sets, how many tournaments, etc. If they draw, if they can seel tickets, sell advertising, then they will demand more and should get it. Luckily it is a capitalistic market and tournaments offer a purse. If that purse is too low players won't show up... and if that purse is large enough the top players come!

Simple as that.

I agree with that, but this is the problem.

I could be mistaken, but MY understanding of how tickets are sold at these events, is week or day passes. Not match passes.

So who the hell knows who they're paying to see.

If you look at the demographics, odds are the Sharapova's and Kournikova's are selling lots of tickets, but when you can't be sure, it's not fair that the men have to work harder to get paid the same.

If you were working on a project with a co-worker where you submitted one report, and you both put in the same time, should you be paid the same (assuming experience, loyalty and tenure are equal)? Of course.

Should you still be paid the same when the other person leaves every afternoon at 2 and you still work till 5? I don't think so.

sickkittens 01-14-2005 09:10 AM

It should all have to do with the market and how much their sport brings in.

sickkittens 01-14-2005 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by nico-t

You get that excited over that?

nico-t 01-14-2005 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sickkittens
You get that excited over that?

kind of :Oh crap

Tania 01-14-2005 10:32 AM

I think woman they should get paid same like man no mater how much they work 6 or 8 ours a day :winkwink:

GatorB 01-14-2005 10:34 AM

They may play less but would you rather watch MENS or WOMENS tennis? It's WOMENS tennis that brings in the viewers and the $$$. Only gay gauys watch mens tennis, straight men watch womens tennis to see women with fit bodies in shorts and skirts sweat and grunt.

Joesho 01-14-2005 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronaldo
I agree with the topless Joe, because that would surely bring in more money. But if they didn't wear panties, I think the game would be forever tarnished when Amelie Mauresmo's penis was actually shown.
http://images.athleteline.com/photog...imbledon03.jpg

Yeah but K Man and bradshaw need someone to root for too LOL LOL

QuaWee 01-14-2005 11:38 AM

i still dont understand why there is not any coed professional sports

Mogulman 01-14-2005 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronaldo
when they only play best of 3 in the major tournaments, and the men play best of 5?

Most women I know say obviously not, but a couple of them truly believe they should split the prize money evenly between men and women.

To me, that's like saying a women should be paid the same salary as a man, but she only has to work 6 hours a day, while the man has to work 8 hours a day.

Not meaning to sound sexist in the least btw. If they played best of 5, then they SHOULD split the prize money 50/50.

To me, female athletes should be paid in proportion to the amount of money they bring in. For instance, the WNBA players should not be paid anywhere near the same amount of money as NBA players because they don't generate nearly the same in revenue. :2 cents:

kane 01-14-2005 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee
If they play matches of the same duration then personally I think that would be cool. However the other thing to consider is that the womens game doesnt have the pull of the mens. Its like the Olmypics 100m final. The mens race is probably the ultimate event at the games, whereas the womens simply isnt nowhere near it.

that's actually not true. The women regularly pull as many, if not more, viewers then the men. They also sell just as many, if not more tickets. They do play shorter matches though, that is true. When you look at the ratings for the last US open. the mens final drew a 2.5 the women's a 2.2 neither match had an american in it. If say Serana or Venus Williams or Capriatti were in the final they could have pulled around 3.5-4.0 and crushed the men. The women's ratings have been falling some in the last couple of years since Hingis stopped playing and the williams sisters don't play as much and Anns kept getting hurt, they lost a lot of the personalities in the game but when all of them were playing regularly a few years ago the often beat the men in the ratings and outdrew them in ticket sales.

To me the money isssue is about draw. If they sell as many tickets and get as good of ratings they should get the same amount of money as the guys. It doesn't matter if they play shorter matches.

Paco, of Large Cash. 01-14-2005 12:53 PM

A female anything should be paid the same as any male anything (equality is an old subject that most do not understand).

Divide the amount by X and pay per instance.
Therefore, if the female tennis player has three tournaments, she makes X time three. If the male plays five ... BINGO.

kmanrox 01-14-2005 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paco, of Large Cash.
A female anything should be paid the same as any male anything (equality is an old subject that most do not understand).

Divide the amount by X and pay per instance.
Therefore, if the female tennis player has three tournaments, she makes X time three. If the male plays five ... BINGO.

quit sucking up, they should do everything for free for our pleasure

Sarah_Jayne 01-14-2005 12:57 PM

when they play the same amount of sets then yes

sweetME 01-14-2005 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmanrox
females shouldn't be allowed to play any professional sports. I mean , if we wanted to watch second rate sports we just go watch a high school men's team play, am I right?

Females do everything better then men. In sports they're equal, in sex they're better, in working they do everything men can do or even better and lots of women make more money then men do doing the same thing, in keeping a house together (like cleaning, cooking, doing laundry, running errands, taking care of the kids and many more) they're the best. And the most powerful thing in the world is done by women as well, and that's having a baby. Can men do all of these? Oh yeah, their good in sports.

Paco, of Large Cash. 01-14-2005 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmanrox
quit sucking up, they should do everything for free for our pleasure

and again ... I was expecting that.

Yah, expressing my honest opinion to a group of peeps that float very differently than I is merely a ploy to make some female (whom chances are I have never met and is not my type) fall for me.

I am too fucking busy skiing and doing drugs to care about fronting about what I am.

If you have seen my skin tone, you would know why I am for equality (not brown and not white ... I am an olive bastard). Everyone starts off at the gates at the same time and their actions from then on depict their quality of being.

sexkeydwayne 01-14-2005 01:44 PM

Lmao
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ronaldo
I agree with the topless Joe, because that would surely bring in more money. But if they didn't wear panties, I think the game would be forever tarnished when Amelie Mauresmo's penis was actually shown.
http://images.athleteline.com/photog...imbledon03.jpg


Men play harder, and longer. Their side of the sport brings in 2x the amount of viewers. Die hard tennis fans don't generally watch women's tennis. It is a bit repetative and is great to fall asleep to. Any women hitting serves in the 130 range? Not even the William's sisters are hitting in the 130's on a consistent basis.

And the thought of seeing Mauresmo's penis is disturbing.

Scott McD 01-14-2005 01:48 PM

I hate watching women playing Golf.

It just doesn't look right...

spooky181 01-14-2005 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paco, of Large Cash.
A female anything should be paid the same as any male anything (equality is an old subject that most do not understand).

Divide the amount by X and pay per instance.
Therefore, if the female tennis player has three tournaments, she makes X time three. If the male plays five ... BINGO.

You have lost track somewhere along the line. Women play 3 sets men play 5 sets. I'ts not how many matches or tournaments they play.... DRONGO

Paco, of Large Cash. 01-14-2005 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexkeydwayne
Men play harder, and longer. Their side of the sport brings in 2x the amount of viewers. Die hard tennis fans don't generally watch women's tennis. It is a bit repetative and is great to fall asleep to. Any women hitting serves in the 130 range? Not even the William's sisters are hitting in the 130's on a consistent basis.


the problem is that the gender (female) does not support itself ... MOST men watch sports ... so they watch guy-sports. So, guy sports do well as do male athletes.

MOST women do not, watch sports, so their sports suffer at the hands of their own gender.

That has zero to do with serving speed and etc - MHO

kane 01-14-2005 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexkeydwayne
Men play harder, and longer. Their side of the sport brings in 2x the amount of viewers. Die hard tennis fans don't generally watch women's tennis. It is a bit repetative and is great to fall asleep to. Any women hitting serves in the 130 range? Not even the William's sisters are hitting in the 130's on a consistent basis.

And the thought of seeing Mauresmo's penis is disturbing.

sorry, but you are wrong.
here is some articles on it. The women regularly draw near the amount of viewers that the men do and in some cases they draw more.

Here is where a women't tennis match ( featuring the williams sisters ) outdrew a college football game and got a 6.8 rating
http://espn.go.com/tennis/usopen01/s...9/1249852.html

that is almost 3 times as much as the the mens US open final which got a 2.5 ( the women's final at the US open got a 2.2)
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/2004-...-ratings_x.htm

the women often outdraw the men in TV ratings and ticket sales. to say that they don't is wrong.

But I have to agree with you that the idea that Mauresmo's penis may drop out of her skirt is disturbing

axelcat 01-14-2005 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t

:thumbsup


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