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nick3131 01-06-2005 09:24 AM

IMPORTANT NEWS: For anyone using google adwords!
 
It appears that google is cutting down on affiliate bidding. Very soon it will be limited to one ad per domain. Read more about it here....

http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum81/4204.htm

DEA - banned for life 01-06-2005 09:27 AM

they must be getting tired of tsorting through all the bullshit

nick3131 01-06-2005 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DEA
they must be getting tired of tsorting through all the bullshit

Actually they claim its because relevancy is endangered by multiple ads coming up for the same exact domain. In reality they are fighting a 2 front battle, 1 against click fraud, and one against affiliate misconduct. They assume that this move will help both, I rather doubt it actually.

Furious_Male 01-06-2005 09:30 AM

Can someone post the article or text from the post.

I am curious how will this work on those of us that use our own tours and link to join pages for a specific site?

xclusive 01-06-2005 09:33 AM

Utoh this isn't good at all

Dildozer 01-06-2005 09:34 AM

Google just loves walking all over the small guys

nick3131 01-06-2005 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Furious_Male
Can someone post the article or text from the post.

I am curious how will this work on those of us that use our own tours and link to join pages for a specific site?

Go here, http://www.webmasterworld.com/

You should be able to read it like that.

nick3131 01-06-2005 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Dildozer
Google just loves walking all over the small guys

They claim its to produce better relevancy. I think it has more to do with click fraud.

Nismo 01-06-2005 09:36 AM

Shit. This fucking sucks.

hydro 01-06-2005 09:37 AM

so if somebody uses the aff link www.samplesite.com/?aff=joe somebody else can't use www.samplesite.com/?aff=john ?

hjnet 01-06-2005 09:40 AM

Honestly I can't believe nobody of you knew that, it's a huge rumor on all SEO boards since a month.

nick3131 01-06-2005 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by hydro
so if somebody uses the aff link www.samplesite.com/?aff=joe somebody else can't use www.samplesite.com/?aff=john ?

Yea basically. So the person who bids the most is the only one who will get any impressions.

bigdog 01-06-2005 09:41 AM

well don't send traffic straight to the tour, but to a landing page

hjnet 01-06-2005 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by hydro
so if somebody uses the aff link www.samplesite.com/?aff=joe somebody else can't use www.samplesite.com/?aff=john ?

Nobody (well almost nobody) really knows how the new guidelines will look like, but I think landing pages will still be allowed, and if you're the only one who's advertising www.samplesite.com then you wouldn't have a problem too.
But if there are two Ads which link to www.samplesite.com for a keyphrase (worst case you and your sponsor) then someone will have to go, and I don't think that you can outbid your sponsor :Oh crap

nick3131 01-06-2005 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bigdog
well don't send traffic straight to the tour, but to a landing page

I think people will start relying more heavily on things like FPA's and feeder sites. Which convert better anyway.

nick3131 01-06-2005 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by hjnet
Nobody (well almost nobody) really knows how the new guidelines will look like, but I think landing pages will still be allowed, and if you're the only one who's advertising www.samplesite.com then you wouldn't have a problem too.
But if there are two Ads which link to www.samplesite.com for a keyphrase (worst case you and your sponsor) then someone will have to go, and I don't think that you can outbid your sponsor :Oh crap

This is actually alot better then i expected. At one point it seemed that they were going to cut off affiliate bidding all together.

Tuga 01-06-2005 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by bigdog
well don't send traffic straight to the tour, but to a landing page


That is so obvious, even if google didnt force you to do it.

Furious_Male 01-06-2005 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by nick3131
Go here, http://www.webmasterworld.com/

You should be able to read it like that.

Thanks got it.

Furious_Male 01-06-2005 09:48 AM

I do that already so this shouldn't affect me much. But untill Google makes an official announcement we can only speculate.

Furious_Male 01-06-2005 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by nick3131
I think people will start relying more heavily on things like FPA's and feeder sites. Which convert better anyway.

I meant to quote you on my post above ^^

nick3131 01-06-2005 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuga
That is so obvious, even if google didnt force you to do it.

The funny thing about it is, all those "make millions at home" e-books about google adwords teach everyone to send straight to the link code. I would assume that 80% of affiliate bidders dont know any other way of sending traffic. Most likely have very little HTML knowledge if any.

hjnet 01-06-2005 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by nick3131
This is actually alot better then i expected. At one point it seemed that they were going to cut off affiliate bidding all together.

I think that they're still going to cut off the affiliate, it would only have advantages for Google if they do so, less trademark troubles, better SE-Results and companies itself can spend more than affiliates. They only have to wait until the time is ready for it, but I'm pretty sure they'll make life harder and harder for Affiliates in the next few years.

nick3131 01-06-2005 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by hjnet
I think that they're still going to cut off the affiliate, it would only have advantages for Google if they do so, less trademark troubles, better SE-Results and companies itself can spend more than affiliates. They only have to wait until the time is ready for it, but I'm pretty sure they'll make life harder and harder for Affiliates in the next few years.

How much can they do against feeders and FPA's thou. Its alot better to send traffic to a site that "sells" the product against sending it directly to the link code anyway. No offense to tour page designers, but those usually convert much better and carry more relevance. Would that still be considered affiliate bidding?

Dildozer 01-06-2005 10:08 AM

In a way it's good, i mean all those affiliate programs having a blast making their affiliates pay to send them traffic might actually have to fork money out of their own fat pockets instead.

brizzad 01-06-2005 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by nick3131
Go here, http://www.webmasterworld.com/

You should be able to read it like that.

you'll get banned for posting links to other forums here

nick3131 01-06-2005 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by brizzad
you'll get banned for posting links to other forums here

Sorry about that, they are in a totally different industry so I didnt think it would be a problem.

hjnet 01-06-2005 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dildozer
In a way it's good, i mean all those affiliate programs having a blast making their affiliates pay to send them traffic might actually have to fork money out of their own fat pockets instead.

See Sig :winkwink:

digifan 01-06-2005 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by hjnet
See Sig :winkwink:

Haha cool.. you should use another color like yellow so it won't go unnoticed.

:2 cents:

nick3131 01-06-2005 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by digifan
Haha cool.. you should use another color like yellow so it won't go unnoticed.

:2 cents:

Yea thats a good idea

triumph 01-06-2005 10:53 AM

what about the countless searches that ebay comes up on?

They make a few million of ebay a month with that.

nick3131 01-06-2005 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by triumph
what about the countless searches that ebay comes up on?

They make a few million of ebay a month with that.

They are most likely going to cut off that as well. The main problem is that most of those ads are completely irrelevant.

Fake Nick 01-06-2005 10:57 AM

GO GOOOGLE

great rule for people with good se positions :)

nick3131 01-06-2005 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Fake Nick
GO GOOOGLE

great rule for people with good se positions :)

And those who never send their traffic to link codes.

nick3131 01-06-2005 01:16 PM

bump for anyone who missed it this morning.

keyboard warrior 01-06-2005 02:54 PM

Google will turn into overture - it is hard to get listed on overture as an affiliate!

AdultNex 01-06-2005 03:07 PM

Time for landing page madness.

Crypt 01-06-2005 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by nick3131
They are most likely going to cut off that as well. The main problem is that most of those ads are completely irrelevant.

Even if they cut the ebay affilitate crap like this with this new rule , you have a turn around to do EXACTLY the same thing legit after the new rule. No one is using it atm , because cost are high. But i can tell you, its the next way the big Ebay aff will use on Adwords if this new rule apply.

nick3131 01-06-2005 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultNex
Time for landing page madness.

Your sig is the shit. When i start dipping in the sig market ill definetly copy your work.


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