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mcmc 12-29-2004 06:11 PM

Move to one of the top 10 cities world wide (stats and pics)
 
if you ever wanna move, where would you go to ???

World-wide quality of life survey
Mercer Research

I already posted this once. But we plan to offer a new service to help people settle down in european countries (especially in switzerland) ... so im really interested in what you would choose.

#1 ZURICH, SWITZERLAND
http://kopernik.cc.fmph.uniba.sk/~le...tos/zurich.png

#2 GENEVA, SWITZERLAND
http://www.arthursmemoirs.co.uk/jour...0/stage10a.jpg

#3 VANCOUVER, CANADA
http://newton.physics.wwu.edu/from/photos/vancouver.jpg

#4 VIENNA, AUSTRIA
http://www.viptouristik.com/pics/wien_stadt.jpg

#5 AUCKLAND, NEW ZEALAND
http://www.users.bigpond.com/mharper/Travel/aukland.jpg

#6 BERN, SWITZERLAND
http://bern-buempliz.lions-w.ch/berne_aerial_view.jpg

#7 COPENHAGEN, DENMARK
http://www.astro.umd.edu/~miller/Copenhagen-01.jpg

#8 FRANKFURT, GERMANY
http://www.euv-frankfurt-o.de/de/ffo...lder/ffo02.jpg

#9 SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA
http://www.suburbia.com.au/~anarensw/sydney.gif

#10 AMSTERDAM, NETHERLANDS
http://www.amsterdam-holland-travel....canaltrees.jpg

mcmc 12-29-2004 06:19 PM

our service works fine so far ... we moved 3 rich german guys to switzerland.
Now they pay 20% tax instead of about 50%... :winkwink:

CrazyLunatic 12-29-2004 06:22 PM

Pretty cities.

OzMan 12-29-2004 06:24 PM

Hmm it's just a tad biased to European cities but at least you threw Sydney in there

Kevsh 12-29-2004 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OzMan
Hmm it's just a tad biased to European cities but at least you threw Sydney in there


.. and vancouver :winkwink:

hershie 12-29-2004 06:25 PM

That pic of Vancouver is probably at least 10 years old. Lots has changed since.

More Booze 12-29-2004 06:27 PM

I will move to a big city someday.. I like hi-tech looking buildings for some reason.

mcmc 12-29-2004 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OzMan
Hmm it's just a tad biased to European cities but at least you threw Sydney in there

well, its the official worldwide top 10 rankings

hershie 12-29-2004 06:29 PM

Everytime a poll comes out there is always lots of cities that are in one and not another like a recent one had Melbourne #1 and no Swiss city in the top 10, but always, you will see Vancouver make the top 10 for the past several years in every poll.

mcmc 12-29-2004 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hershie
Everytime a poll comes out there is always lots of cities that are in one and not another like a recent one had Melbourne #1 and no Swiss city in the top 10, but always, you will see Vancouver make the top 10 for the past several years in every poll.


Melbourne is in the tops as well ... but Mercer is doing these kinds of reports for YEARS ...

http://www.mercerhr.com/summary.jhtm...ontent/1128760

slapass 12-29-2004 06:33 PM

No New York City, Paris or Miami? come on this is the top ten I froze my ass of there cities.

OzMan 12-29-2004 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcmc
well, its the official worldwide top 10 rankings

I would have thought cost of living and pollution would be top factors and those big European cities surely can't score too well in those areas??

Greg Atherton 12-29-2004 06:35 PM

I would agree with most of that list, but frankfurt germany? I don't think so :)

mcmc 12-29-2004 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OzMan
I would have thought cost of living and pollution would be top factors and those big European cities surely can't score too well in those areas??

pollution
No, not a problem in Europe, really.

cost of living
ok thats quite high

hershie 12-29-2004 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapass
No New York City, Paris or Miami? come on this is the top ten I froze my ass of there cities.

All my top 10 would be tropical places for sure.

mcmc 12-29-2004 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapass
No New York City, Paris or Miami? come on this is the top ten I froze my ass of there cities.

all those cities are in the top 50

check the stats!

uno 12-29-2004 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapass
No New York City, Paris or Miami? come on this is the top ten I froze my ass of there cities.

I refuse to give any credibility to anything not listing NYC.

OzMan 12-29-2004 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uno
I refuse to give any credibility to anything not listing NYC.

thank you for your unbiased opinion :thumbsup

mcmc 12-29-2004 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uno
I refuse to give any credibility to anything not listing NYC.

CHECK the stats, NYC is the standard

http://www.mercerhr.com/summary.jhtm...ontent/1128760

(free registration required)

mcmc 12-29-2004 06:50 PM

anyway, what you think about our service?

- people can live in switzerland
- people pay taxes in switzerland
- costs are about $10k one-time fee

Boss Traffic Jim 12-29-2004 06:51 PM

Some nice pics

brand0n 12-29-2004 06:52 PM

nothing in the states?

mcmc 12-29-2004 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uno
I refuse to give any credibility to anything not listing NYC.

i never have been to NYC ... but a friend of mine told me its just great! But why do you think NYC must be in the top 10 ???
From what i remember, its in the top 25

slapass 12-29-2004 06:56 PM

San diego always hit high in the US things like this but I love Miami. Definately thinking of making a move. Your top ten just needs more sun. And NewYork City is the center of the world. Pretty hard to not make it top ten.

Screaming 12-29-2004 06:57 PM

amsterdam looks great, would love to go there

Ross 12-29-2004 06:58 PM

You forgot Glasgow, Scotland :)

Pornwolf 12-29-2004 07:04 PM

No New York? :disgust

mcmc 12-29-2004 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross
You forgot Glasgow, Scotland :)

heard a lot about it ... must be great and im sure gonna visit glasgow one day!
But isnt it very rainy there ?

mcmc 12-29-2004 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornwolf
No New York? :disgust

somewhere in the TOP 25 i think.
NYC is the standard with 100

Elli 12-29-2004 07:11 PM

From http://vancouver.com/whattoexpect/review/index.htm

Vancouver - #1 City in the Americas

The reader?s of Condé Nast are among the savviest travellers on the globe. Their opinions are formed from years of experience travelling to cities around the world, from Albuquerque to Zurich. So that makes their decision to name Vancouver the best city in the Americas all the more satisfying. Editors of the seminal travel magazine tabulated its readers 30,000 votes, and Vancouver beat out rivals like Mexico City, Toronto and San Jose, Costa Rico.

Judging from its grand location on the sparkling shores of the Pacific, in the shadows of the lording Coast Mountains, there is little doubt why they voted for Vancouver. Clean, safe streets, friendly people and a wonderful collection of accommodation options all make for an unrivalled vacation destination. But don?t take their word for it; discover for yourself why Vancouver is the best city in the America?s!

More pics here: http://www.bcpassport.com/photo_gallery.html

mcmc 12-29-2004 07:16 PM

i still havent heard any comment about the service we offer ... would you use a service for $10k to get living and working permission in Switzerland?
(Mainly to save taxes) Those people we moved in here, are happy ...

but you have to know that its quite impossible to move people to Switzerland who cant afford to pay for their own living.
Switzerland = Money. So you have to have some income to be able to get permission.

mcmc 12-29-2004 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elli
From http://vancouver.com/whattoexpect/review/index.htm

Vancouver - #1 City in the Americas

The reader?s of Condé Nast are among the savviest travellers on the globe. Their opinions are formed from years of experience travelling to cities around the world, from Albuquerque to Zurich. So that makes their decision to name Vancouver the best city in the Americas all the more satisfying. Editors of the seminal travel magazine tabulated its readers 30,000 votes, and Vancouver beat out rivals like Mexico City, Toronto and San Jose, Costa Rico.

Judging from its grand location on the sparkling shores of the Pacific, in the shadows of the lording Coast Mountains, there is little doubt why they voted for Vancouver. Clean, safe streets, friendly people and a wonderful collection of accommodation options all make for an unrivalled vacation destination. But don?t take their word for it; discover for yourself why Vancouver is the best city in the America?s!

More pics here: http://www.bcpassport.com/photo_gallery.html

Vancouver must be a lovely place! I remember it was on place 2 world-wide about 2 or 3 years ago, just behind Zurich and in front of Geneva. Chris, a fiend of mine visited the city and told me it was amazing !!!

hershie 12-29-2004 07:21 PM

November 2003 Maxim Magazine
Maxim Magazine votes Vancouver as one of the top 5 bachelor party cities.

November 2003 Condé Nast Traveler
Condé Nast Traveler magazine has voted Vancouver the second best city in the Americas to visit. Vancouver tied with Quebec City and Victoria, British Columbia was awarded the top honour.

December 2003 Woman Magazine
United Kingdom's Woman Magazine claims that Vancouver is among the top 10 world wide destinations and tops for beautiful city and spectacular scenery.

chodadog 12-29-2004 07:21 PM

Seems like Switzerland is the place to be. Looks great.

hershie 12-29-2004 07:24 PM

2005 Condé Nast Traveler
Vancouver has been named "Best City in the Americas" at the Conde Nast 2005 Readers' Choice Awards.

January 2005 Travel Weekly Magazine
Travel Weekly Magazine has acknowledged Vancouver as the top Canadian destination for 2004. This is only the second year that the award has been presented and Vancouver has won both times.

2004 American Automobile Association
Travel agents who work under the American Automobile Association banner in the U.S. have recently deemed that Vancouver is one of the top world destinations for their clients. The recent AAA survey says that Vancouver is ranked fourth in the world behind London, Paris and Rome in terms of booking preferences. YVR was ranked ahead of Shannon, Ireland in fifth place in the survey, which just asked agents for their top five choices.

January 2004 Out and About
Out and About - www.gay.com - votes Vancouver one of the top ten up-and-coming Gay Travel destinations for 2004.

August 2004 Research Worldwide
Research Worldwide, which calls itself "The Worldwide Commercial Real Estate Information Portal", released a list stating that Vancouver was the second best city in the world for expatriates to live.

December 2004 Granville Island - The Best North American Neighbourhood!
Vancouver's Granville Island has been named North America's best neighbourhood by a New York-based community development organization. Granville Island was chosen because of "the whole neighbourhood and the island itself".

June 8, 2003 Georgia Times-Union
Georgia Times-Union notes that Vancouver was voted as one of the top destinations for students at STudentUniverse.com

July 2003 ABTA Magazine
ABTA Magazine states that Vancouver International airport has been rated top North American airport in the annual IATA survey.

shuki 12-29-2004 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uno
I refuse to give any credibility to anything not listing NYC.


I am with you on that one. In my book NYC is #1 :thumbsup

mcmc 12-29-2004 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hershie
2005 Condé Nast Traveler
Vancouver has been named "Best City in the Americas" at the Conde Nast 2005 Readers' Choice Awards.

January 2005 Travel Weekly Magazine
Travel Weekly Magazine has acknowledged Vancouver as the top Canadian destination for 2004. This is only the second year that the award has been presented and Vancouver has won both times.

2004 American Automobile Association
Travel agents who work under the American Automobile Association banner in the U.S. have recently deemed that Vancouver is one of the top world destinations for their clients. The recent AAA survey says that Vancouver is ranked fourth in the world behind London, Paris and Rome in terms of booking preferences. YVR was ranked ahead of Shannon, Ireland in fifth place in the survey, which just asked agents for their top five choices.

January 2004 Out and About
Out and About - www.gay.com - votes Vancouver one of the top ten up-and-coming Gay Travel destinations for 2004.

August 2004 Research Worldwide
Research Worldwide, which calls itself "The Worldwide Commercial Real Estate Information Portal", released a list stating that Vancouver was the second best city in the world for expatriates to live.

December 2004 Granville Island - The Best North American Neighbourhood!
Vancouver's Granville Island has been named North America's best neighbourhood by a New York-based community development organization. Granville Island was chosen because of "the whole neighbourhood and the island itself".

June 8, 2003 Georgia Times-Union
Georgia Times-Union notes that Vancouver was voted as one of the top destinations for students at STudentUniverse.com

July 2003 ABTA Magazine
ABTA Magazine states that Vancouver International airport has been rated top North American airport in the annual IATA survey.


YUP, Vancouver rocks! It was in the top 3 cities world-wide for quite a few years

groark 12-29-2004 07:37 PM

Amsterdam because of the pot thingy

hershie 12-29-2004 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcmc
YUP, Vancouver rocks! It was in the top 3 cities world-wide for quite a few years

I have visited probably 25 countries, lived in San Fran. and NY right before moving here, and feel like this city is definately tops if you play it right. You have to live downtown as although it is a medium sized city with a large downtown, downtown here is very livable clean, green (largest urban widerness park in the world) and perfectly safe and thriving at nights. I live across the street from the ocean/beach/seawall path that streches for tens of kilometers along the ocean/forest, and yet I am still right downtown and can walk across the street and swim in the ocean at the beach during summer. You can ski 15 minutes from downtown and golf in the same day.

mcmc 12-29-2004 07:39 PM

Here you can donwload the TOP 50 report without registration:
Mercer Report - World Wide Quality Of Living

Pornwolf 12-29-2004 07:40 PM

Nothing beats New York. Nothing. It just doesn't. Clean air is nice and all but I'm not exactly choking every day when I wake up. The other cities are scenic and all that stuff but after you get finished strolling through the friggin park what do you do then huh?

I imagine after I pop out a couple of kids and loose my lust for chasing hot women NYC might not be my number one. Who knows, I might slow down so much that a cabin in the Swiss Alps would be more suitable for me. There's a slim chance of that, but it's possible I guess.

In the meantime, any self respecting, pussy loving, big money making red blooded male under 50 has to consider New York number one followed closely by Miami. Anything after that is gravy on top of the potatoes.

quiet 12-29-2004 07:44 PM

i absolutely love NYC. but i also love Vancouver.

:glugglug

mcmc 12-29-2004 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornwolf
Nothing beats New York. Nothing. It just doesn't. Clean air is nice and all but I'm not exactly choking every day when I wake up. The other cities are scenic and all that stuff but after you get finished strolling through the friggin park what do you do then huh?

I imagine after I pop out a couple of kids and loose my lust for chasing hot women NYC might not be my number one. Who knows, I might slow down so much that a cabin in the Swiss Alps would be more suitable for me. There's a slim chance of that, but it's possible I guess.

In the meantime, any self respecting, pussy loving, big money making red blooded male under 50 has to consider New York number one followed closely by Miami. Anything after that is gravy on top of the potatoes.

Zurich, Geneva and Berne are not in the Swiss Alps... :)

mcmc 12-29-2004 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quiet
i absolutely love NYC.

:glugglug

Interesting. Would everyone from the US (on this board) say that NYC is the best place to live in the US?

I thought LA or SANFR are cool places

Elli 12-29-2004 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornwolf

In the meantime, any self respecting, pussy loving, big money making red blooded male under 50 has to consider New York number one followed closely by Miami. Anything after that is gravy on top of the potatoes.

Have you seen the Vancouver women downtown in summertime? Hershie, you know what I'm sayin :winkwink:

Pornwolf 12-29-2004 08:00 PM

I'm definitely on the slow train to Vancouver. I should be getting there by June. I heard here are massive amounts of exotic women there. :)

Still, nothing beats NY for having the best of everything at your fingertips (except clean air) 24/7 365.

BradM 12-29-2004 08:02 PM

Not suprised to see Vancouver there. I would love to live in English Bay for a few years.

Antonio 12-29-2004 08:03 PM

I checked the full list and the first city taht I would even consider moving to was Buenos Aires.

mcmc 12-29-2004 08:07 PM

HONOLULU best rated US city! #24
NEW YORK #38

just for those who were to lazy to download the full list

hershie 12-29-2004 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antonio
I checked the full list and the first city taht I would even consider moving to was Buenos Aires.

I should have gone with my instinct and bought property last year in Argentina when their currency got seriously devalued and the economy pounded. Damn, it has rebounded already. I am reading lots of good things lately about Uruguay and their beach resort Punta del Este.


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