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robfantasy 12-17-2004 04:26 PM

Private Lap Dance clubs
 
a lounge where about 10 girls sit around and ask you if you want a private dance, you go to the back and they give u a topless lapdance.

girls pay out ~50 to work there like a hair salon.


you charge $2 a song per dance x 100 dances = $200

you charge $10 to get in = 50 customers a day = $500

10 girls paying out $50 = $500

sell juices and candy at $5 a pop = $50

~1200 profit a day

discuss.

robfantasy 12-17-2004 06:01 PM

hmm bump for strippers asses and tities

Relish XXX 12-17-2004 06:27 PM

http://www.relishxxx.tv/videos/conte.../tammy-lee.jpg

Private dances like this one though are much better. I also think your calculations for running a strip joint are way under. Add another 0 on the end of that total for the nightly take.

robfantasy 12-17-2004 06:33 PM

im talking just private lapdances, not a strip club.

strip club = alcohol

Sly 12-17-2004 06:33 PM

What exactly is the difference in these places and a regular place?

Sly 12-17-2004 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by robfantasy
im talking just private lapdances, not a strip club.

strip club = alcohol

Not here. No alcohol allowed.

sandman! 12-17-2004 06:34 PM

Nice idea.
If you get the city to let you do it :)

crockett 12-17-2004 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by robfantasy
a lounge where about 10 girls sit around and ask you if you want a private dance, you go to the back and they give u a topless lapdance.

girls pay out ~50 to work there like a hair salon.


you charge $2 a song per dance x 100 dances = $200

you charge $10 to get in = 50 customers a day = $500

10 girls paying out $50 = $500

sell juices and candy at $5 a pop = $50

~1200 profit a day

discuss.

who the hell would go to a strip club to drink juices and eat candy? :1orglaugh

fl_prn_str 12-17-2004 06:36 PM

Are you talking about a juice bar with lap dances?

fascinating concept....

dig420 12-17-2004 06:37 PM

too much work for too little money

Sly 12-17-2004 06:38 PM

Guys, you're way too hung up on the juice. Its just an extra, not a main ingredient.

dirtysouth 12-17-2004 06:39 PM

It's called a "tanning salon" and I ran one for a while. Better make sure you are outside the city limits. :2 cents:

freeadultcontent 12-17-2004 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by robfantasy
a lounge where about 10 girls sit around and ask you if you want a private dance, you go to the back and they give u a topless lapdance.

girls pay out ~50 to work there like a hair salon.
you charge $2 a song per dance x 100 dances = $200
you charge $10 to get in = 50 customers a day = $500
10 girls paying out $50 = $500
sell juices and candy at $5 a pop = $50
~1200 profit a day
discuss.

Before I get into this talk, what is your supposed hours of business.

robfantasy 12-17-2004 06:43 PM

this guy owns 2 of them here

he must make over 5000 a day doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.. but his operation is sloppy as fuck.

each spot has 1 degenerate asshole working as security/door man who probably works for free lapdances.

freeadultcontent 12-17-2004 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by robfantasy
this guy owns 2 of them here

he must make over 5000 a day doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.. but his operation is sloppy as fuck.

each spot has 1 degenerate asshole working as security/door man who probably works for free lapdances.

Open and close hours?

robfantasy 12-17-2004 06:47 PM

i think 10am-4am ...not sure what time it opens

dirtysouth 12-17-2004 06:48 PM

Customer enters the door. Security camera and a doorbell alert the chicks. They are all in a single big room watching TV, talking on the phone, etc. Next in line takes the customer. Greets them and tells them its $40. House keeps the $40.

Girl walks the guy back to 1 of 8 or so rooms with a small couch and a tanning bed, hands him a towel & tanning goggles and turns on the radio. Leaves and shuts the door.

Comes back in sexy lingerie and tells the dude she'll take it all off for $40. Guy can jerk off.

Cash cow. :glugglug

robfantasy 12-17-2004 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by crockett
who the hell would go to a strip club to drink juices and eat candy? :1orglaugh
its JUST a place to go get pestered for a private lapdance for 3 minutes where a hot ass girl grinds ur cock and shows her tits to you in the backroom.

nothing less nothing more

robfantasy 12-17-2004 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dirtysouth
Customer enters the door. Security camera and a doorbell alert the chicks. They are all in a single big room watching TV, talking on the phone, etc. Next in line takes the customer. Greets them and tells them its $40. House keeps the $40.

Girl walks the guy back to a 1 of 8 or so rooms with a small couch and a tanning bed, hands him a towel & tanning goggles and turns on the radio. Leaves and shuts the door.

Comes back in sexy lingerie and tells the dude she'll take it all off for $40. Guy can jerk off.

Cash cow. :glugglug

whats the tanning bed have to do with anything?

dirtysouth 12-17-2004 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by robfantasy
whats the tanning bed have to do with anything?
It allows you to open as a "private" tanning salon. Easier to get a license.

freeadultcontent 12-17-2004 06:55 PM

10am to 4am assumes 16 hours a day. That would typically mean at least 2 shifts of girls if not 3. Many would not want the morning to mid afternoon shifts.

In your figures you only assume 50 customers a day and with that number to cover your estimated number of privates each has to buy 2 dances each.
You state a 50.00 a day charge to the dancers, yet as I stated above many will not want the early shift, nor would feel it is worth the 50.00 for it.
You also assume only 10 dancers for 16 hours, either that would be 5 per shift or are you assuming all 10 will work the full 16?

Please go over.

robfantasy 12-17-2004 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by freeadultcontent
10am to 4am assumes 16 hours a day. That would typically mean at least 2 shifts of girls if not 3. Many would not want the morning to mid afternoon shifts.

In your figures you only assume 50 customers a day and with that number to cover your estimated number of privates each has to buy 2 dances each.
You state a 50.00 a day charge to the dancers, yet as I stated above many will not want the early shift, nor would feel it is worth the 50.00 for it.
You also assume only 10 dancers for 16 hours, either that would be 5 per shift or are you assuming all 10 will work the full 16?

Please go over.

im not saying i pay them.. they pay me $50 to work, they keep $10 a dance. so they pay $50 and work 4 hour shifts. they pay you to work there and make money off dances from the ppl.


there are no expenses except the guy that works there and the rent/utilities

freeadultcontent 12-17-2004 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by robfantasy
im not saying i pay them.. they pay me $50 to work, they keep $10 a dance. so they pay $50 and work 4 hour shifts. they pay you to work there and make money off dances from the ppl.


there are no expenses except the guy that works there and the rent/utilities

I never said you pay them, just justifing your figures.

robfantasy 12-17-2004 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by freeadultcontent
I never said you pay them, just justifing your figures.
plus alot of ppl come in during the day

Sly 12-17-2004 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by robfantasy
im not saying i pay them.. they pay me $50 to work, they keep $10 a dance. so they pay $50 and work 4 hour shifts. they pay you to work there and make money off dances from the ppl.


there are no expenses except the guy that works there and the rent/utilities

Your math doesn't work out.

They pay out $50 for 4 hours of work. That means they're going to want to make at least $300 I would imagine. Thats about $80 an hour, which comes out to 8 dances each hour. With a total of 50 customers, how can each girl possibly get 8 dances every hour.

freeadultcontent 12-17-2004 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly
Your math doesn't work out.

They pay out $50 for 4 hours of work. That means they're going to want to make at least $300 I would imagine. Thats about $80 an hour, which comes out to 8 dances each hour. With a total of 50 customers, how can each girl possibly get 8 dances every hour.

That is basicly what I was getting to.

robfantasy 12-17-2004 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by freeadultcontent
10am to 4am assumes 16 hours a day. That would typically mean at least 2 shifts of girls if not 3. Many would not want the morning to mid afternoon shifts.

In your figures you only assume 50 customers a day and with that number to cover your estimated number of privates each has to buy 2 dances each.
You state a 50.00 a day charge to the dancers, yet as I stated above many will not want the early shift, nor would feel it is worth the 50.00 for it.
You also assume only 10 dancers for 16 hours, either that would be 5 per shift or are you assuming all 10 will work the full 16?

Please go over.

there would be a schedule

robfantasy 12-17-2004 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly
Your math doesn't work out.

They pay out $50 for 4 hours of work. That means they're going to want to make at least $300 I would imagine. Thats about $80 an hour, which comes out to 8 dances each hour. With a total of 50 customers, how can each girl possibly get 8 dances every hour.

they could work as long as they want, but they have to work a minimum of 4 hours

if u make enuff money after 4 hours u can leave, if u want to make more u can stay later

freeadultcontent 12-17-2004 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dirtysouth
Customer enters the door. Security camera and a doorbell alert the chicks. They are all in a single big room watching TV, talking on the phone, etc. Next in line takes the customer. Greets them and tells them its $40. House keeps the $40.

Girl walks the guy back to 1 of 8 or so rooms with a small couch and a tanning bed, hands him a towel & tanning goggles and turns on the radio. Leaves and shuts the door.

Comes back in sexy lingerie and tells the dude she'll take it all off for $40. Guy can jerk off.

Cash cow. :glugglug

This sounds a tad more promising, yet a lil umm fishy.

robfantasy 12-17-2004 07:10 PM

this is not an idea, this is how this place i know actually operates and i know all the girls that work there and know the operation inside and out.

this is seriously a cash cow and i am debating whether or not to move into his territory

just discussing

freeadultcontent 12-17-2004 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by robfantasy
this is not an idea, this is how this place i know actually operates and i know all the girls that work there and know the operation inside and out.

this is seriously a cash cow and i am debating whether or not to move into his territory

just discussing

1. Get an ATM machine with a couple buck processing charge.
2. Juice/soda instead of alcohol does mean 18+ yet do keep in mind a beer/wine license is easy to obtain.

Also do not forget expenses like, DJ, doorman/security, server/waitress, insurance, legal, advertising, etc.

pornguy 12-17-2004 07:20 PM

You want to see a cash cow, come over the border to mexico.

The clubs here make so much money, and there are so many, that they actually pay the girls to dance. Usually 50 to 80$ per night. A lap dance is 20$ if you give the girl another 30$ you can get a quickie in the booth. Or you can pay I think its 100 and take her into the room in the back.

Or the other option is pay the house 200$ and she leaves with you. Then what ever you work out is between you and her.

shermo 12-17-2004 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by crockett
who the hell would go to a strip club to drink juices and eat candy? :1orglaugh
Skip the candy, but our totally nude clubs here only serve juice. What's the appeal? It's fully nude. :Graucho

robfantasy 12-17-2004 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by freeadultcontent
1. Get an ATM machine with a couple buck processing charge.
2. Juice/soda instead of alcohol does mean 18+ yet do keep in mind a beer/wine license is easy to obtain.

Also do not forget expenses like, DJ, doorman/security, server/waitress, insurance, legal, advertising, etc.

i forgot, ATM is there too

as for the juice/soda i dont think u can sell alcohol at this type of setup

and no dj, cuz there is a jukebox remember that ppl pay 2$ a song.

there is 1 doorman/security guy.

costs are insurance, legal, advertising, rent, utilities

killshot 12-17-2004 07:31 PM

I never set foot inside a place with naked girls unless i can drink alcohol

otherwise its just not worth it.

Thurbs 12-17-2004 07:39 PM

heh - my friend has the same operation so I can tell you ur math is off.

if you were to do it, u'd need much more foot traffic then you could really get at a place with no alcohol. this guy you 'know' most likely isn't giving you the real figures. ask a car salesman how many cars he sells a week, he'll tell you 20, become the manager, and you'll see the same guy doing 4-5 on a good week.

my friends club is an actual lounge with alcohol and there aren't more than four girls there at any time because its more of a novelty and here in Houston for example he had to purchase the land to run his club on.

the only feasible place for you to make the money you're talking about would be in vegas. perhaps in a semi-exclusive or pricey part of a casino / hotel where it would be sold as a clean fun environment to cool off after the tables or for a breather when you just don't feel like drinking for a while.

even then, one security man won't be enough, one for the door, fine, and then you need a presense around the girls because drinking or not, guy will get out of hand, it's part of the business.

second problem is this, if a girl is going to get topless, and is attractive enough to work the guys who arent buying drinks, why wouldnt she just work at real club, where they "pad" the tabs by getting guys drunk which in turn usually nets more dances.

just some shit for you to think about.

robfantasy 12-17-2004 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by thurbs
heh - my friend has the same operation so I can tell you ur math is off.

if you were to do it, u'd need much more foot traffic then you could really get at a place with no alcohol. this guy you 'know' most likely isn't giving you the real figures. ask a car salesman how many cars he sells a week, he'll tell you 20, become the manager, and you'll see the same guy doing 4-5 on a good week.

my friends club is an actual lounge with alcohol and there aren't more than four girls there at any time because its more of a novelty and here in Houston for example he had to purchase the land to run his club on.

the only feasible place for you to make the money you're talking about would be in vegas. perhaps in a semi-exclusive or pricey part of a casino / hotel where it would be sold as a clean fun environment to cool off after the tables or for a breather when you just don't feel like drinking for a while.

even then, one security man won't be enough, one for the door, fine, and then you need a presense around the girls because drinking or not, guy will get out of hand, it's part of the business.

second problem is this, if a girl is going to get topless, and is attractive enough to work the guys who arent buying drinks, why wouldnt she just work at real club, where they "pad" the tabs by getting guys drunk which in turn usually nets more dances.

just some shit for you to think about.

i dont know the guy that owns it, i know the girls that work there.

the numbers are not off one bit, the places that serve alcohol here require pasties and panties and no contact with the customer.

like i said before, the sole reason to come here is to get a lapdance.

this is not vegas with accepted nudity and what not, this is a commonwealth place full of military who have nothing to do with there money.

fl_prn_str 12-17-2004 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dirtysouth
It's called a "tanning salon" and I ran one for a while. Better make sure you are outside the city limits. :2 cents:
When Marion S. Barry Jr. was Mayor of Washington, DC there were a few of these "so called" "tanning salons" in business within the city limits. They were known fronts for prostitution. When Sharon Pratt Kelly was elected as Mayor in 1991 the fun police closed them all down.

robfantasy 12-17-2004 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fl_prn_str
When Marion S. Barry Jr. was Mayor of Washington, DC there were a few of these "so called" "tanning salons" in business within the city limits. They were known fronts for prostitution. When Sharon Pratt Kelly was elected as Mayor in 1991 the fun police closed them all down.
ya the tanning salon thing sounds too shady, u need to have it so there is no way its just a girl and a guy in an enclosed area, that is a definitly an invitation for heat from the police.

robfantasy 12-18-2004 05:17 AM

bump for my morning money making peoplez

Asthma 12-18-2004 05:36 AM

My favorite stripclub

DeadFidel 12-18-2004 05:53 AM

They have places here in the sub's of NY (Yonkers, New Rochelle)
that have dance clubs. All slow music, and you pay the girls $5 per dance. You can feel their asses hug them etc.

Although your're on the right track, the topless thing borders on prostitution. It would be hard to get off the ground without paying off a lot of people.

robfantasy 12-18-2004 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeadFidel
They have places here in the sub's of NY (Yonkers, New Rochelle)
that have dance clubs. All slow music, and you pay the girls $5 per dance. You can feel their asses hug them etc.

Although your're on the right track, the topless thing borders on prostitution. It would be hard to get off the ground without paying off a lot of people.

thats what im researching this week when i contact my local legal team.. in the worst case ill get them to wear pasties on their nips

BackToMine 12-18-2004 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Asthma
My favorite stripclub
:321GFY

dirtysouth 12-18-2004 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by thurbs
heh - my friend has the same operation so I can tell you ur math is off.

if you were to do it, u'd need much more foot traffic then you could really get at a place with no alcohol. this guy you 'know' most likely isn't giving you the real figures. ask a car salesman how many cars he sells a week, he'll tell you 20, become the manager, and you'll see the same guy doing 4-5 on a good week.

my friends club is an actual lounge with alcohol and there aren't more than four girls there at any time because its more of a novelty and here in Houston for example he had to purchase the land to run his club on.

the only feasible place for you to make the money you're talking about would be in vegas. perhaps in a semi-exclusive or pricey part of a casino / hotel where it would be sold as a clean fun environment to cool off after the tables or for a breather when you just don't feel like drinking for a while.

even then, one security man won't be enough, one for the door, fine, and then you need a presense around the girls because drinking or not, guy will get out of hand, it's part of the business.

second problem is this, if a girl is going to get topless, and is attractive enough to work the guys who arent buying drinks, why wouldnt she just work at real club, where they "pad" the tabs by getting guys drunk which in turn usually nets more dances.

just some shit for you to think about.

The guy that bought my place was from Houston. Ever heard of Exciting Tan? There's 3 there now I think.

Basically it's an all-nude "modeling studio". Keep in mind I'm in the Bible Belt and we had judges, cops, etc as customers. No heat. People just over-looked it unless it was election time in which we just slowed down the advertising.

I'm actually looking over our old books now. Damn that was a lot of cash. :glugglug

robfantasy 12-18-2004 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dirtysouth
The guy that bought my place was from Houston. Ever heard of Exciting Tan? There's 3 there now I think.

Basically it's an all-nude "modeling studio". Keep in mind I'm in the Bible Belt and we had judges, cops, etc as customers. No heat. People just over-looked it unless it was election time in which we just slowed down the advertising.

I'm actually looking over our old books now. Damn that was a lot of cash. :glugglug


dirtysouth what do u do nowadays?


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