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directfiesta 12-17-2004 12:16 PM

Hells Angels fighting for Democracy & Freedom ( pic )
 
In Toronto ...
Every crook today justifies its actions with " DEMOCRACY & FREEDOM "....

http://www.redwhiteclothing.ca/club/...1495pg42p3.jpg

Quote:

Hells Angels use billboard for image campaign

CTV.ca News Staff

The Ontario wing of the Hells Angels has put up a billboard on a Toronto highway as part of a new public relations campaign.

The motorcycle gang says they want to "right the wrongs" done to them by the "government-controlled" media.

The Angels' PR campaign comes amid an ongoing trial in Barrie, Ont., north of Toronto, in which the Crown is trying to prove that the Hells Angels are a criminal organization.

If prosecutors succeed, the gang's powers could be severely limited.

The billboard reads: "Still fighting for democracy and freedom" and directs people to their website. There, the gang claims that stories written about them in local and national papers "tell you everything-- but the truth."

They say they've been made the "bogeyman for all of society's ills" while such issues as "government corruption and immigration-fed crime... are hamstrung by self-interest and reverse racism."

They say they are engaged in a business that is "absolutely legal" yet are targeted by prosecutors and victimized by police.

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http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...hub=TopStories


fang 12-17-2004 12:21 PM

Red and white :thumbsup

baddog 12-17-2004 12:29 PM

The HA have been getting a bad rap from the very beginning. False accusations of murder, and RICO violations.

They make a nice and easy target, but most of the crap out there about them is just that, crap.

The HA are, for the most part, a great bunch of guys. Just don't fuck with them and they won't fuck with you.

AFFA

Wiggles 12-17-2004 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog
The HA have been getting a bad rap from the very beginning. False accusations of murder, and RICO violations.

They make a nice and easy target, but most of the crap out there about them is just that, crap.

The HA are, for the most part, a great bunch of guys. Just don't fuck with them and they won't fuck with you.

AFFA

I think that is pure bullshit, I've seen HA Bikers walk into local bars and just beat the shit out of anything who happens to be standing near them. My friend was standing at the bar, a biker walked up beside him, he looked over and grabbed him and threw him across the room and then beat ths hit out of him, my friend had never met or even spoken a word to the guy before. Their local bar is a coke den, one of their leaders who I actually spoke with admitted he has killed over 100 people during his time in the HA, that is why he was promoted to top ranks.

Wiggles 12-17-2004 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog
The HA have been getting a bad rap from the very beginning. False accusations of murder, and RICO violations.

They make a nice and easy target, but most of the crap out there about them is just that, crap.

The HA are, for the most part, a great bunch of guys. Just don't fuck with them and they won't fuck with you.

AFFA

I think that is pure bullshit, I've seen HA Bikers walk into local bars and just beat the shit out of anyone who happens to be standing near them. My friend was standing at the bar, a biker walked up beside him, he looked at him and grabbed him and threw him across the room and then beat ths shit out of him, my friend had never met or even spoken a word to the guy before. Their local bar is a coke den, one of their leaders who I actually spoke with admitted he has killed over 100 people during his time in the HA, that is why he was promoted to top ranks.

There may be some decent guys in HA, but to say they all are is pure bullshit!

bringer 12-17-2004 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wiggles
I think that is pure bullshit, I've seen HA Bikers walk into local bars and just beat the shit out of anyone who happens to be standing near them. My friend was standing at the bar, a biker walked up beside him, he looked at him and grabbed him and threw him across the room and then beat ths shit out of him, my friend had never met or even spoken a word to the guy before. Their local bar is a coke den, one of their leaders who I actually spoke with admitted he has killed over 100 people during his time in the HA, that is why he was promoted to top ranks.

There may be some decent guys in HA, but to say they all are is pure bullshit!

try edit next time
you're fined 2500 posts

Wiggles 12-17-2004 01:15 PM

thats funny because i did hit edit, it even gave me all the edit options.

burntout21 12-17-2004 01:15 PM

u dont want to look them in the eye thats for sure.

bringer 12-17-2004 01:16 PM

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Originally posted by Wiggles
thats funny because i did hit edit, it even gave me all the edit options.
ok, 1500 instead

bringer 12-17-2004 01:17 PM

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Originally posted by burntout21
u dont want to look them in the eye thats for sure.
pussy

Drake 12-17-2004 01:21 PM

When you join a prominent gang that has a well established image for toughness, drugs, and murder, don't be alarmed when you're painted with that brush.

That's like the Bloods or the Crips lobbying for freedom and democracy. We're sorry that we somtimes judge you wrongly as a potential killer, but you do realize that you are in a gang known for violence, right?

uno 12-17-2004 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog
The HA have been getting a bad rap from the very beginning. False accusations of murder, and RICO violations.

They make a nice and easy target, but most of the crap out there about them is just that, crap.

The HA are, for the most part, a great bunch of guys. Just don't fuck with them and they won't fuck with you.

AFFA

I liked the ones i used to know in NYC.

Platinum Doug 12-17-2004 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog
False accusations of murder, and RICO violations.

They make a nice and easy target, but most of the crap out there about them is just that, crap.

The HA are, for the most part, a great bunch of guys. Just don't fuck with them and they won't fuck with you.

AFFA


Yes, I've just sent out invitations to all of the Ontario chapter to come over for tea on Sunday. Great bunch of guys - shame about the rep, though!

:P

Alex 12-17-2004 01:29 PM

wiggles he just calmly told you that he killed 100s of people and you stayed shut?

Phoenix 12-17-2004 01:30 PM

they are good enough guys im sure.

but i never liked the idea of wearing something that puts a target on your back for the police to see

Screaming 12-17-2004 01:32 PM

thats classic stuff there

JFK 12-17-2004 01:41 PM

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Originally posted by kaliboy2g
wiggles he just calmly told you that he killed 100s of people and you stayed shut?

Yeah right ...........fucking True Confessions....... Like a club prez is going to confide in a "citizen":1orglaugh

Platinum Doug 12-17-2004 01:43 PM

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Originally posted by Phoenix
they are good enough guys im sure.

Say what?!?! Maybe if it's your cousin, but you can't seperate individuals from an organization like that. I don't have a huge beef with them - but I don't think they ever qualify as "good enough guys" - unless you're behind bars and need the protection, that is. ;)

sixxxthsense 12-17-2004 01:46 PM

all governments are LEGAL ORGANIZED GANGS!!


when are people gonna fucking get it?

JFK 12-17-2004 01:46 PM

here is the Toronto Sun's take on it
http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/Toront...86565-sun.html

Wiggles 12-17-2004 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JFK
Yeah right ...........fucking True Confessions....... Like a club prez is going to confide in a "citizen":1orglaugh
He was in jail, he was telling his life story, its not as if i could tell cops and he'd immediately be charged for the murders, they need proof dumbasses. Unless he specifically mentions who he killed, where and when, it don't mean shit.

JFK 12-17-2004 01:52 PM

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Originally posted by Wiggles
He was in jail, he was telling his life story, its not as if i could tell cops and he'd immediately be charged for the murders, they need proof dumbasses. Unless he specifically mentions who he killed, where and when, it don't mean shit.
So you are saying you were in there with him ?:Graucho

baddog 12-17-2004 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Platinum Doug
Say what?!?! Maybe if it's your cousin, but you can't seperate individuals from an organization like that. I don't have a huge beef with them - but I don't think they ever qualify as "good enough guys" - unless you're behind bars and need the protection, that is. ;)
I have met and partied with Angels from all over the world. I have gone to their parties, shot pool, bullshiited with them on the road, had Thanksgiving dinner with some. If you don't fuck with them, they won't fuck with you.

It does remind me of one time that one of my little sisters told me she read a book about bikers, and had decided that they were nothing to be afraid of . . . "I will just tell them my big brother is a biker."

I suggested that this might not be the best idea she came up with.

Wiggles 12-17-2004 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JFK
So you are saying you were in there with him ?:Graucho
I worked there.

Drake 12-17-2004 01:54 PM

Most of them are 'good guys' but when you belong to a group that's already been labelled, you will be labelled too. Nobody joins the HA because they want to be looked at fondly. Lots of the mafia would treat you and me and their families like royalty. It doesn't mean they don't kill people or deal drugs. The HA are known for murder....just ask the Montreal police about the deaths.

You and I are pretty safe from these guys. The murders are pretty well confined to rival gangs and gang members. But they're not angels... they're 'Hell's' Angels.

Doctor Dre 12-17-2004 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog
The HA have been getting a bad rap from the very beginning. False accusations of murder, and RICO violations.

They make a nice and easy target, but most of the crap out there about them is just that, crap.

The HA are, for the most part, a great bunch of guys. Just don't fuck with them and they won't fuck with you.

AFFA

hrmm they WILL fuck with you if you do something on their tetorry

JFK 12-17-2004 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wiggles
I worked there.
K just curious ............:winkwink:

Drake 12-17-2004 01:58 PM

I have no beef with HA. They can do what they do. It's never effected me one way or the other. The article JFK posted seems to indicate it's a political move for fear that the government is going to crack down on them harder by making it illegal to belong to HA. I don't think the government needs to go that far, but whatever.

Fletch XXX 12-17-2004 01:59 PM

Hell yeah Hells Angels.

We have tons of local clubs ghere, sure baddog knows some ;)

Devils Disciples ;)

theres some shady people that inhabit the socal valley bike scene.

baddog 12-17-2004 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wiggles


There may be some decent guys in HA, but to say they all are is pure bullshit!

No one said they were all good guys. Guess what? Not all cops are good guys, not all doctors are good guys, not all priests are good guys, not all webmasters are good guys.

As far as the guy telling you he had killed 100 people, I will call bullshit on either you or him. If he told you that he was trying to scare you.

A few, sure. 100? Highly doubtful.

Wiggles 12-17-2004 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog
No one said they were all good guys. Guess what? Not all cops are good guys, not all doctors are good guys, not all priests are good guys, not all webmasters are good guys.

As far as the guy telling you he had killed 100 people, I will call bullshit on either you or him. If he told you that he was trying to scare you.

A few, sure. 100? Highly doubtful.

He was an assassin, he was so good at it that they promoted him to administration. He was also very well recognized as a leader, I seriously doubt he was bullshitting, no reason to brag, he's already a known leader.

baddog 12-17-2004 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Hell yeah Hells Angels.

We have tons of local clubs ghere, sure baddog knows some ;)

Devils Disciples ;)

theres some shady people that inhabit the socal valley bike scene.

<----- Devil's Perverts PFFP

Drake 12-17-2004 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog
<----- Devil's Perverts PFFP
I think we all belong to that gang :Graucho

Fletch XXX 12-17-2004 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog
<----- Devil's Perverts PFFP
i dont know any disciples other than seeing a few frequent a bar i used to drink in. they were rowdy usually and intimidating to say the least, but usually just came in rocked the jukebox had a few rounds and talked bikes. i used to take pics of the bikes sometimes.

i am not familiar with too many of the clubs, just notice the jackets they wear in the bars ;)

and i happen to have drank in some small valley bars that had some long time riders/builders from this area so it was always good times.

Fletch XXX 12-17-2004 02:12 PM

in fact, the bar started to enforce no colors after awhile.

baddog 12-17-2004 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike33
I think we all belong to that gang :Graucho
you wish

baddog 12-17-2004 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

and i happen to have drank in some small valley bars that had some long time riders/builders from this area so it was always good times.

Well, a common theme that is found around SD and WY is, if you can't trust a biker, who can you trust?

fl_prn_str 12-17-2004 02:31 PM

MC's are always getting a bad rap.....I worked at a club in Jax that was owned by the Outlaws and went to rehab with some members of the Pagans. They didnt seem like bad folk........

baddog 12-17-2004 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fl_prn_str
MC's are always getting a bad rap.....I worked at a club in Jax that was owned by the Outlaws and went to rehab with some members of the Pagans. They didnt seem like bad folk........
I had a great time with the Outlaws I met in FL . . . never dealt with any Pagans though

- Jesus Christ - 12-17-2004 02:42 PM

HA are scumbags. :2 cents:

baddog 12-17-2004 02:50 PM

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Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
HA are scumbags. :2 cents:
and you base your opinion on what?


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