Why men should not marry.
 

Why men should not marry.
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All the older guys I know, guys that are 55 and older are telling me the same story; don't do it. It just turns to crap no matter what you do. They'd rather be independent. At best it's a tedious bore. At worst a living hell with financial ruin thrown in for good measure. The problem is that when you're young, you just naturally fall into this mind set where your whole self image is based on how women regard you, and so you spend all your money and energy trying to make yourself acceptable to them. Then later in life the shine wears off and you finally realize that you've wasted yourself on a bunch of crap.
Children - "the ultimate human experience"
I couldn't even begin to list all of the older folks i know from work or through my family with kids they either don't get along with, are disappointed in, or are so distant as to not even be a factor in each other's lives.

I'm really skeptical about the idea of children as "the ultimate blessing." How many friends do you have with little or no meaningful contact or relationships with their parents?

I would wager the statistic for happy child/parent relations would be as bad, if not worse, than the marriage numbers. Who wants to deal with TWO bitter, unfulfilling relationships?!


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Marriage is a sham for men. There is no benefit. If you are about to get married, think it over. Don't let your dick do your thinking for you. Don't let your punch-drunk I'm in love euphoria put you on auto-pilot. You will wake up in a hell of a hangover staring at this woman who will control your life.


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A few years ago I went through a major depression over this until I started talking to all the older guys I knew...and they all said the same thing; "don't do it, it's shit. Even when it's not bad, it's shit". You end up being closely tied to an old woman. Think about that. I can go to Europe or the south seas tomorrow. If I was married I wouldn't have the money and I'd have to ask HER permission. Don't get married unless you are absolutely religiously in love with her. Like carry her sick aged body to the toilet and wipe her ass and be happy to do it kind of love.

What I'm saying is that human beings are nasty weak treacherous creatures that are for the most part totally untrustworthy. Experience is my basis for this statement, both mine and others who I know or who have written reliable histories. If you can find a woman to be your companion who is not treacherous, a deceitful little actress, a sly whore or a manipulative nag or a shrieking hag, then you are among the lucky few. Congratulations. I hope your luck continues to hold out.


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Ok, assume that you will end up divorced and won't see your kids and lose half of your assets, how different is that from being married?

Most married guys I know are working their asses off to pay bills, rarely to get to spend time with their families, mediocre or no sex life, and have wives that spend as much of their money as absolutely possible.

My problem with marriage isn't a fear of divorce; it is that the whole thing sucks divorce or not.


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What security is there for men in marriage?
If I cheat on my wife, she gets half my shit.
If she cheats on me, she still gets half my shit.
Why the fuck should i get married?


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Fuck it man, it's easy to get depressed about not being married when we live in a society that constantly feeds us the image of the happy couple. It's one big lie. The happiest person alive is someone who isn't a prisoner dependent on another human being... We only have 80 or so years on this rock to achieve true freedom


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Very few marriages last nowadays, and even guys older than me are telling me not to even think about it... It's a grossly overrated source of happiness. And for the 80% that do go through divorce, it will financially ruin you for life. Period. You can take your best 10 earning years from say, 35 to 45 and take all the wealth you would have accumulated and flush it down the toilet. Because it will go to her and her lawyer. If it happens naturally and it's good then great, good luck. But the worst thing is to force it, to make gross exertions and ignore all sorts of red lights going off just to be hooked up and "normal". Get some hobbies. Relax. Hang out. Enjoy. Take life as it comes.


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As men, we all know that a woman's primary objective is to marry. After years of experience I've discovered their most commonly used strategy. here it is:

1. Girl pressures guy for marriage.

2. Guy delays.

3. Girl gradually starts destroying guy's self-esteem and eliminating his friends.

4. Guy becomes too weak and too much of a loser to find something better than what he has.

5. Girl starts to limit sex. In effect controlling the only good thing in the guy's life.

6. Guy is in despair. Capitulates to marriage.


Then 5-10 years later the guy is an empty shell of his former self. Girl is a ruthless manipulating machine. Girl divorces loser husband. Girl takes 80% of guy's stuff because the guy is too brain dead to find a good lawyer. Girl lives happily ever after. Guy becomes bald alcoholic who dies of heart attack at 45 years old.

sorry, not gonna read that

it may be too late for you then.

i'm sorry:(

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luv,
Candice :tongue:

fuck - someone slept on the couch last night

Im almost 44, Im not bald, nor have I lost my will to live or balls. If a man turns into what you describe then its his own fault for not being mature and having some self respect and integrity.

grow the fuck up - the same if not worse happens to women who get into abusive relationships and are beaten and treated like shit by men - so its a two way street.

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let me ask how old is your wife and how long have you been married?

1. Girl pressures guy for marriage.

as much as men pressure women into relationships and marriage themselves

2. Guy delays.

women delay too because most are looking for a career and a life before getting tied down... women today dont want to become dependant on men

3. Girl gradually starts destroying guy's self-esteem and eliminating his friends.

I have all my friends and MORE!! as does she - we have friends together and our own to balance ourselves off

4. Guy becomes too weak and too much of a loser to find something better than what he has.

complete bullshit - if a guy has such a low selfesteem and integrity then he deserves it... men and women need to go through counselling marriage or premarriage to equip themselves for marriage. Its a constant process of working things out. Marriages use to last 50 or more years simply because they talked and figured out problems together, today from fast foods to fast marriages, the first sign of a problem and they call it quits - and just how many marriages are broken up where the guy has cheated on the women?? a fucking whole lot more than a women breaking it off... men dont want the responsibility of kids - its called midlift crisis.

5. Girl starts to limit sex. In effect controlling the only good thing in the guy's life.

christ man.. I have been with my women for 3 years and the sex has always been there.. even more to some weeks. We are fucking and playing on average 5 times of the 7 days - and still fool around during her period.

6. Guy is in despair. Capitulates to marriage.

grow some balls dude - women dont own men, and men dont own women.. if a guy cant get his shit together and is desparate to marry no wonder they break off. Seriously, this is limited to a small number of men out there.. and even fucking smaller for women who are making a life for themselves and dont need men now to survive in life.

3 years?? That's new love. Talk to me in 10 more. Or 20

I dont agree with any of this for myself anyway.. I run shit, not her.

ASSHOLES4LIFE

Almost 90% of American women "marry up" to a man that earns more than they do. Coincidence? I think not.
What we see here is the typical gap between what women say (and may believe on a conscious level) and what they do (Some are conscious hypocrites, others choose wealthier men on a subconscious level, screening out less successful guys without even admitting it to themselves). Only a small minority of women at present (just over 10%) marry men who make less than them. They are the only ones who without a doubt chose men for themselves.

There is a thing called "falling in love within a framework" which means these women at a subconscious level only allow themselves to fall for men who meet their conditions in regard to success, wealth, etc. The other guys, no matter how nice, intelligent, good-natured, and self-assured, will get screened out before they are even seriously considered, in 90% of cases.

The one constant of life is that women, after you marry them, will always change. You think they are sexy and fair now? They will probably change after the wedding.

That's just the way it is, folks, no way to change it. Best thing is to look at the women's mom, married sisters, and how she was raised. That is a much better indicator than what she says when you date her.

Men lie to get sex. Women lie (like crazy) to get married. Oldest rule in the book. PS. Women will deny this all day long. Feel free to ignore their denials.


39% of American wives don't do any paid work.
Women working part-time, while their husbands work full-time in the main breadwinner position is common, but the opposite is almost unheard of.

Do you ever sense that your wife sees you as a means to an end rather than a person? Sometimes I feel like my wife loves me for what I can do for her (kids, security, whatever) but does not really care about me specifically. Many woman who are getting older want to get married, but who they marry seems less important than actually being married.



The big Red Zone for gold digging is 30-35 for most guys. That's when you're getting established enough in a career so you're not as much of a risk as a clueless student in his 20s but you're still young enough to marry and feasibly have a family. That's Very attractive to women ranging from 21 to 39.
I'm defining "gold digger" as a woman looking for security, a provider. That defines a goodly % of women. Most people think of the fake, social obsessed bleached blonde who wants jewels and a white Mercedes convertible. Still, since they both want comfort via another, I see them different more in degree than in kind.



Women want access to the three options available only to women who marry up to more successful men (which the majority do):
1) To stay home to parent

2) To mix work and parenting to their liking

3) To work full-time, but with the option to switch to either of the first two options at any time.

This is only possible if the woman is married to a man who financially subsides these choices. Then there's the after marriage option:

4) If she gets bored of him, divorce and ass-rape him in court

Swingers on AFF don't have these problems :winkwink:

It is a rather silly convention that says love has to last forever. Marriage makes more sense if you are simply finding someone to procreate with. The pair are bonded with whatever religious ceremony, they mate, they have children, the man supports financially, the woman supports with manual labour at home. That's a fine business agreement.

When you bring love into it, you throw all those priorities (financial stability, procreation) out of whack. Suddenly they are subject to how MUCH you love each other AT THAT MOMENT. Imagine if businesses were run that way! The world would collapse!

Love is changeable and it comes and goes. To try to tie it down and say, "now that we've done the marriage ceremony, we will love each other forever" is rather near-sighted and pointless.

And that's my point of view for today.