pullout or start draft?
 

After the new year Bush will have to make a decision-
Should America pullout or start a draft, to continue the war in iraq?

His Dad should have pulled out of Babs and came on her ass :2 cents:

who knows what the hell he'll do, i dont think were pulling out of iraq anytime soon at all but i really really hope there won't be a draft

Ooooh boy. Here we go with the draft boogie-man again.

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i hope we pullout.. or if called in a draft.. I will move to a different country.

you are old enough to stay home and fuck all the young guys gfs while they are gone :thumbsup

i'll be down to help you out with that

he better pull out, otherwise Canada is goin to be over populated lol

a draft would own a lot of people :1orglaugh

No shit. It's amazing the ignorance about the draft that abounds on this board.

everything is going according to plan.
http://www.regimechange.us/images/NBK324_2.jpg

Actually I served in the first gulf war with the 2 battalion/18th Field Artillary attached to the 18th Airbourne corps..... So I have done my bit.

And if they called a draft, I would go and volunteer.

But meanwhile THERE ISN'T GOING TO BE A DRAFT. The Military doesn't want it, the house and the senate doesn't want it, and the administration doesn't want it.

If we need to increase troop levels, then an act of congress will increase the allotment for recruitment. VOLUNTEER recruitment. All this talk of a draft is just scare-mongering. Heck, the last draft bill proposed (and that has happened about every 3 or 4 years for the last 25 years), was proposed by a DEMOCRAT, and was soundly defeated.

would be nice if they pulled all the troops out before christmas... :(

who knows at this point

it's a cluster fuck

A breath of fresh common sense :thumbsup

that would not be very responsible of us

lol, what's stopping you now? if you're really that gung ho :1orglaugh

Fuck this is funny ,,,

Volunteer .... LOL ... :1orglaugh LOL ...


WHY DON'T YOU GO NOW !!!!

Then that would be volunteerr....

Draft, noway...jose .....

Who the hell are you going to send for that war ???

Michael Jackson ????

As much as I love Michael, I am guessing the military wouldn't accept him right now.

They are turning down enlistees like crazy. Every branch has met their recruitment goals as well as the guard the reserves. They are taking the young cream of the crop guys and girls.

All they need to do is get more money from Congress, open up enlistment rolls and I can promise you there will be NO reason for a draft.

Oh, and I meant Sperbozo when I said "Michael", not Michael Jackson - that post wasn't there when I started mine, lol!

At this point. they will not take me. I'm over 35 and my reserve component has expired. In time of Draft however, they will take any able-bodied man.

Did you read the first part of my post about the first gulf war? At least I have put my money where my mouth is.

That IM2 shit sucks.
Keeps logging me in and out. Fuck that.

Bullshit enlistment is down 20% or more in every fucking branch and the reserves enlistment is down worse than that. why the hell u think we have stop loss in place.

Guess again:
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/joini...ruitment+goals

But I was incorrect when I said the Guard met their goals :(

Peaches. that information is from a private org. they are not part of the military. And do you really think that the military will tell the truth about the enlistment numbers? They have not managed to tell the truth about anything else.

OK, so you're saying you don't believe a private site about recruitment numbers, you don't believe the military about recruitment numbers, but instead you believe a poster on GFY with nothing to back up their claims? OK......:eek7

I do know for a fact that my son was in DEP for almost a year and they stopped ALL recruiting into the AF back in the summer. They've started again now that their fiscal year has started, but they are required to get rid of 20K current enlistees. It used to be if you failed a class in tech school you got retrained - now you're out.

The reason that we have stop loss in place is that the military learned from Vietnam. It is a BIG mistake to rotate back experienced troops and put new ones in a unit during continueing combat operations. You lose unit cohesion and the new inserted troops do not fit in, are resented, and even shunned. Things just break down on the platoon and squad level.

During WWII units went through training together, and then stayed together until the end of the war, replacing troops only as needed because of losses. It made for a much more effective fighting force.

If there was a draft I bet you not one son or daughter of a congressman would go over there...:2 cents:

Its a trick. Conscription is illegal (13th amendment). You're simply required to show up. They cannot legally force or order you to take the oath of service. The "draft" is simply a legal way to trick people into thinking they are obligated to take the oath of military service, when in fact, they are not.