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xxxjay 12-07-2004 01:32 PM

Important Announcement from OCCash
 
We have completely beefed up our creatives for all of our sites, especially www.teenievideo.com and there is now a ton of new hosted movie galleries, new free content, and a ton of new banners. Grab them while they are fresh!

Here are a few good samples:

http://free.ocxxx.com/movies/tv/tv_mgp_6/?nats=NDozOjEx
http://free.ocxxx.com/movies/tv/tv_m...?nats=NDozOjEx
http://free.ocxxx.com/movies/tv/tv_m...?nats=NDozOjEx
http://free.ocxxx.com/movies/tv/tv_m...?nats=NDozOjEx
http://free.ocxxx.com/movies/tv/tv_mgp_2/?nats=NDozOjEx
http://free.ocxxx.com/movies/tv/tv_mgp_1/?nats=NDozOjEx

There are over 15 more where those came from. New banners are now available for every site in our program. Also, by the next pay period, we will be able to pay webmasters via Epassporte. We?ve received quite a few requests for this and are happy to accommodate you.

All affiliate support inquiries including hosted galleries, content, custom promos material, and account info changes should be directed to [email protected] or ICQ 112369683.

bigdog 12-07-2004 01:36 PM

damn was hoping for pps

xxxjay 12-07-2004 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bigdog
damn was hoping for pps
Would you promote us if we offered PPS?

candyflip 12-07-2004 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxjay
Would you promote us if we offered PPS?
Yes.

xxxjay 12-07-2004 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by candyflip
Yes.
Ok, who else?

vas 12-07-2004 01:54 PM

i would definatly send more traffic if it was PPS

TheFrog 12-07-2004 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxjay
Would you promote us if we offered PPS?
Yep

xclusive 12-07-2004 01:55 PM

I plan on promoting your either way Jay and Happy to hear about the new creatives but PPS would make me push you more...:2 cents:

cosis 12-07-2004 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxjay
Ok, who else?
me!

fris 12-07-2004 01:57 PM

i dont understand webmasters that want the quickdeal out, take the money and run. rev share is much better. when the sites retain you make more money. if a site retains and you send lots of traffic. you make so much more. i just dont understand people that would rather have pps than revshare

xxxjay 12-07-2004 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fris
i dont understand webmasters that want the quickdeal out, take the money and run. rev share is much better. when the sites retain you make more money. if a site retains and you send lots of traffic. you make so much more. i just dont understand people that would rather have pps than revshare
There is a lot of truth to that. We had one affiliate who had his payout set to a 100$ minimum, he send two joins, and after a few months ? he got a check. Those 2 joins were worth over 50$ a piece and one is still rebilling.

What PPS program is going to give you $50 per join?

I went to the State of the Industry seminar in Santa Monica a few months ago. They had a great panel including Lenman, Mike Price from Silvercash, and Tony Morgan of NatNet. They were talking a lot about how much less of a profit margin is in running an affiliate program these days because of diminished exit traffic, Visa regulations, smarter surfers who cancel quicker, and spam regulations.

In a nutshell, they said the days of the $35 PPS on a trial may not be here for long, but none of the major sponsors wants to be the first to ?step down? and look like they were defeated.

We do plan on doing PPS, but it will likely be a $25 payout on a trial.

Nima 12-07-2004 02:36 PM

way to go!! quality program ran by great people that know what webmasters really want when it comes to sending traffic :thumbsup

baddog 12-07-2004 02:52 PM

possibly

Thurbs 12-07-2004 02:58 PM

i just got my acct .. once my partner gets his, we're sending traffic pps or not.

ArkansasDave 12-07-2004 03:05 PM

right on

RRRED 12-07-2004 03:05 PM

There is absolutely nothing wrong with planning your gig out for "the long run"

If you have a quality product, it will pay for itself! Nice stuff, Jay :thumbsup

BT 12-07-2004 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxjay
We have completely beefed up our creatives for all of our sites, especially www.teenievideo.com and there is now a ton of new hosted movie galleries, new free content, and a ton of new banners. Grab them while they are fresh!

Here are a few good samples:

http://free.ocxxx.com/movies/tv/tv_mgp_6/?nats=NDozOjEx
http://free.ocxxx.com/movies/tv/tv_m...?nats=NDozOjEx
http://free.ocxxx.com/movies/tv/tv_m...?nats=NDozOjEx
http://free.ocxxx.com/movies/tv/tv_m...?nats=NDozOjEx
http://free.ocxxx.com/movies/tv/tv_mgp_2/?nats=NDozOjEx
http://free.ocxxx.com/movies/tv/tv_mgp_1/?nats=NDozOjEx

There are over 15 more where those came from. New banners are now available for every site in our program. Also, by the next pay period, we will be able to pay webmasters via Epassporte. We?ve received quite a few requests for this and are happy to accommodate you.

All affiliate support inquiries including hosted galleries, content, custom promos material, and account info changes should be directed to [email protected] or ICQ 112369683.

Looks great!!! PPS is the only way we trade! If you can match us
on our payout then give me a shout one afternoon and lets discuss
furthing our business relationship with a sweet traffic trade!:thumbsup

BVF 12-07-2004 03:41 PM

I like your black sites. I would like to promote it if it's pps or I can merge it under my other ccbill accounts.

Straight non-ccbill revshare won't work.

xNetworx 12-07-2004 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fris
i dont understand webmasters that want the quickdeal out, take the money and run. rev share is much better. when the sites retain you make more money. if a site retains and you send lots of traffic. you make so much more. i just dont understand people that would rather have pps than revshare
one word ibill

QualityMpegs 12-07-2004 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxjay
Would you promote us if we offered PPS?
I would send a lot more traffic if you offered PPS :)

TheSwed 12-07-2004 04:13 PM

Nice galleries you have...I giv it a try :thumbsup

bigdog 12-07-2004 04:33 PM

even $25 per trial is better then nothing

mahoney 12-07-2004 04:42 PM

:thumbsup

xxxjay 12-07-2004 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BVF
I like your black sites. I would like to promote it if it's pps or I can merge it under my other ccbill accounts.

Straight non-ccbill revshare won't work.

Yes, we can set up a CCBill only with you if you would like. Contact [email protected]

xxxjay 12-07-2004 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BT_trafficcashgold
Looks great!!! PPS is the only way we trade! If you can match us
on our payout then give me a shout one afternoon and lets discuss
furthing our business relationship with a sweet traffic trade!:thumbsup

BT - Give me a call 323-845-9350.

John "JC" Conner 12-07-2004 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bigdog
even $25 per trial is better then nothing

We agree bigdog and to everyone who wants this bear with us...

Horny Guy 12-07-2004 06:03 PM

I joined about 1hr ago and added all your hosted free sites to my link lists great work Jay :)

Do you have any more for me could do with a few 100's more :Graucho

If more sponsers had the brains to have them it would make life lot eazyer for us link site owners .... :helpme

xxxjay 12-07-2004 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Horny Guy
I joined about 1hr ago and added all your hosted free sites to my link lists great work Jay :)

Do you have any more for me could do with a few 100's more :Graucho

If more sponsers had the brains to have them it would make life lot eazyer for us link site owners .... :helpme

Yes, the free sites are one of the most overlooked promotional tools available from OCCash. We even include titles and descriptions. I just open 2 windows and drag and drop them into linkadmin.

We plan on rolling more freesites out as quick as we can. I'll make a note to pick up production. :)

Horny Guy 12-07-2004 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxjay
Yes, the free sites are one of the most overlooked promotional tools available from OCCash. We even include titles and descriptions. I just open 2 windows and drag and drop them into linkadmin.

We plan on rolling more freesites out as quick as we can. I'll make a note to pick up production. :)

great to hear ...let us no when they ready ...will get them added quick smart :glugglug

andrej_NDC 12-07-2004 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bigdog
even $25 per trial is better then nothing
non-trial paysites can convert the same like the ones with trial, so with revshare you can get more than $25 even with shitty retention...

xxxjay 12-08-2004 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by andrej_NDC
non-trial paysites can convert the same like the ones with trial
That statement is 1000% wrong. We started out using no trials and our ratios were not that great, now that we have trials the conversions are 3-4 times better.

Makingcoin 12-08-2004 02:46 AM

Looking great Jay. OcCash rocks :thumbsup

bigdog 12-08-2004 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by andrej_NDC
non-trial paysites can convert the same like the ones with trial, so with revshare you can get more than $25 even with shitty retention...
Trials always convert a lot better for me then fulls. I guess it depends on the niche and your traffic. Have you tried trials at all with nextdoorcash?

slavdogg 12-08-2004 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxjay
Ok, who else?
Jay i could send you some good traffic if it was PPS
but $25/trial would not cut it for me :(

woj 12-08-2004 03:33 AM

good stuff :thumbsup

Doctor Dre 12-08-2004 03:35 AM

http://www.jays-xxx-links.com/graphi..._xxx_links.jpg

xxxjay 12-08-2004 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by slavdogg
Jay i could send you some good traffic if it was PPS
but $25/trial would not cut it for me :(

Over 100% of the initial sale, ever if it is a trial, does not work for you? Read my post further up this thread - maybe it will make more sense to you. Plus, I'm not going to say anything about anyone specific, but there are "methods" a lot sponsors use to get you $35 that would piss you off a lot more than 25$.

slavdogg 12-08-2004 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxjay
Over 100% of the initial sale, ever if it is a trial, does not work for you? Read my post further up this thread - maybe it will make more sense to you. Plus, I'm not going to say anything about anyone specific, but there are "methods" a lot sponsors use to get you $35 that would piss you off a lot more than 25$.
xxxjay i know damn well about methods of making money from paysites. We've been running paysites since 97. Have you ?

If you're tellling us you cant afford to pay $35 PPS than it means your program is not worth promiting at a rev share basis either.

Maybe you're just used to eating TGP traffic and dont know what quality traffic is, but the #s i see on reality / video sites these days can work just fine with 35$ PPS

In reality is all comes down to either working with valume on smaller margins or working with big margins on small valume. you decide whats best for you.

xxxjay 12-08-2004 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by slavdogg
xxxjay i know damn well about methods of making money from paysites. We've been running paysites since 97. Have you ?
Started with CECash in 1997 myself.

Quote:

If you're tellling us you cant afford to pay $35 PPS than it means your program is not worth promiting at a rev share basis either.
Not true. Our members areas are top notch.

Quote:

Maybe you're just used to eating TGP traffic and dont know what quality traffic is, but the #s i see on reality / video sites these days can work just fine with 35$ PPS
You are really making me laugh there. You obviously don't know shit about the kind of traffic I throw.

Quote:

In reality is all comes down to either working with valume on smaller margins or working with big margins on small valume. you decide whats best for you.
We've been crunching the numbers and if we threw out $35 on trilas we would probably be losing money because we don't SHAVE. I'll put our @25PPS against anyones $35 and we can comepare the EPC. You'll see then.

slavdogg - what big $35 PPS program do you own? It's a funny thing - for someone who claims to be a big baller...I've never even heard of you.

Peas! :)

slavdogg 12-08-2004 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxjay

It's a funny thing - for someone who claims to be a big baller...I've never even heard of you.

Peas! :)

thats funny cuz i've never heard of you either :)
you gonna be in Vegas ? we should get a drink and discuss some biz.

i dont claim to be a big baller, i'm just a small fry , btw!

slavdogg 12-08-2004 07:19 PM

>> Not true. Our members areas are top notch.

They are, i know, i've seen the insides
you've done a great job :thumbsup

>> You are really making me laugh there. You obviously don't know shit about the kind of traffic I throw.

Than we both misjudged each other, now we're even :)

bigdog 12-08-2004 09:35 PM

so xxxjay you think most guys who are paying $35 plus per join are most likely shaving?

xxxjay 12-09-2004 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bigdog
so xxxjay you think most guys who are paying $35 plus per join are most likely shaving?
I'm sure quite a few are. Not all.

TheSwed 12-09-2004 07:04 PM

Your FHG are down!!

Morgan 12-09-2004 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheSwed
Your FHG are down!!
working fine here...

anyone else?

XxXotic 12-09-2004 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ganjasaurus
working fine here...

anyone else?

phatbooty fhg were down for me earlier

HollywoodChris 12-09-2004 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheSwed
Your FHG are down!!

They are wokrking fine.
Anyone having issues ?



Cs

TheSwed 12-09-2004 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ganjasaurus
working fine here...

anyone else?

Working here to now :thumbsup

xxxjay 12-10-2004 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheSwed
Working here to now :thumbsup
Good deal.


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