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Donny 11-26-2004 08:06 PM

If Mary was a Virgin, Jesus could NOT have been the Messiah!
 
Mary was from the tribe of Levi. JOSEPH was from the tribe of Judah, a descendant of King David.

The Messiah was prophesied to be a decendant of King David.

Therefore, Joseph had to be Jesus' father in order for the Prophecy to be fulfilled.

Discuss.

Jeff aka NIGHTfall 11-26-2004 08:10 PM

...its a book, shhhh

detoxed 11-26-2004 08:10 PM

Go to hell

xclusive 11-26-2004 08:11 PM

It's like your teenage daughter if you ask her if she ever had sex what would she say?...

Donny 11-26-2004 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by detoxed
Go to hell
If there was a hell, I'd go there. Unfortunately hell, like heaven, does not exist.

lazycash 11-26-2004 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
If there was a hell, I'd go there. Unfortunately hell, like heaven, does not exist.
Why do you continue to preach to an audience where you know what the response will be? There is a simple answer to your question, ask your father and he will explain it to you. Did you spend Thanksgiving with your family?

Doctor Dre 11-26-2004 08:32 PM

Who cares ... seriously . Nobody will ever know

Paul Markham 11-26-2004 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jeff aka NIGHTfall
...its a book, shhhh
A book written to control people minds. So be very careful what you read into it.

The prophets had been predicting a Messiah to lead them and they had said how, where and when he was born. So don't be surprised if that's what they wrote.

Jeff aka NIGHTfall 11-26-2004 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
A book written to control people minds. So be very careful what you read into it.

no.. its a book for people to read.... people turned it into a mind control, life running tool ...

mardigras 11-26-2004 08:49 PM

Is Mary from the tribe of Levi or Judah?

Chichio 11-26-2004 08:59 PM

You've cracked a 2000 year old riddle and it means that YOU'RE the messiah. Congrats! :)

lagwagon 11-26-2004 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jeff aka NIGHTfall
...its a book, shhhh
ya, its the good book :)

Donny 11-26-2004 09:33 PM

I love to stir religious shit.

2HousePlague 11-26-2004 09:51 PM

Makes perfect sense.

Though the bible makes small of it, the greatest part of Jesus' life was spent being just a regular guy. When the time came, the miracles began to flow -- and there began the process of CONVINCING certain people that you are the real thing. Since everybody expected a Messiah, the first thing you had to do was be consistent with the prophecy with what they were EXPECTING.

Imagine Jesus sort of on a date with each Apostle -- you know, just having that getting-to-know-you slightly nervous chit-chat. Jesus is thinking "I think I'm gonna bang this one" And the prospetive disciple is wondering "Is HE the one."

Jesus would have to be gentle with the little guy, and not just let the whole truth out once -- "I AM THE SON OF GOOD!" Yeah, right -- CYA later, he would say.

So, Jesus was given a recorded personal history that would enable him to seduce his followers, first, by playing into their existing mythology, and then, later, by offering no contradictions when he explained who his father really was.


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CET 11-26-2004 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Mary was from the tribe of Levi. JOSEPH was from the tribe of Judah, a descendant of King David.

The Messiah was prophesied to be a decendant of King David.

Therefore, Joseph had to be Jesus' father in order for the Prophecy to be fulfilled.

Discuss.

Luke gives 42 generations between Jesus and David while Matthew gives 27 generations. Please also note that each author names different men as Joseph's father. Also, please note that Luke completely forgets about Solomon, supposedly the wisest and most wealthy king to ever live.

Matthew
King David
Solomon (of Uriah's wife)
Rehoboam
Abijah
Asa
Jehoshaphat
Jehoram
Uzziah,
Jotham
Ahaz
Hezekiah
Manasseh
Amon
Josiah
Jeconiah Shealtiel
Zerubbabel
Abiud
Eliakim
Azor
Zadok
Akim
Eliud
Eleazar
Matthan
Jacob
Joseph, the husband of Mary
Jesus, who is called Christ.

Luke
David Nathan
Mattatha
Menna
Melea
Eliakim
Jonam
Joseph
Judah
Simeon
Levi
Matthat
Jorim
Eliezer
Joshua
Er
Elmadam
Cosam
Addi
Melki
Neri Shealtiel
Zerubbabel
Rhesa
Joanan
Joda
Josech
Semein
Mattathias
Maath
Naggai
Esli
Nahum
Amos
Mattathias
Joseph
Jannai
Melki
Levi
Matthat
Heli
Joseph
Jesus

Joseph was not Jesus' father, God was. Mary was a virgin, so Joseph couldn't have been Jesus' father. Therefore this genealogy is meaningless.

The genealogy is also made meaningless, because jews count heriditary through the mother. Where's Mary's genealogy?


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