the US govt is going to kill you
 

the patriot act 2 says anyone with even the smallest terrorist ties (yes this includes anti war protesters
who have now officialy in the patriot act 2 been classed as terrorists) will be sentenced to death its one
of 15 new laws which get the death penalty, but heres the kicked....YOU DONT GET A TRIAL!

they just kill you, no trial no nothing!

Senate Bill 2679 also includes a provision to greatly expand by 23 the number of crimes that are punishable by the death penalty, as well as create a death penalty for any federal crime meets the PATRIOT Act's definition of "terrorism."

Currently 20 of the 43 "federal crimes of terrorism" are potentially capital offenses. The proposed bill would make all 43 death penalty-eligible. Among those added to the list of crimes potentially punishable by death would be: damage or destruction of aircraft or aircraft facilities; possession of biological agents by restricted persons; computer trespass resulting in acquisition of classified information; injury to buildings or property within special jurisdiction of the United States; destruction, injury or interference with communication lines, stations, or systems; harboring terrorists; providing material support to terrorists; providing material support to designated foreign terrorist organizations; and terrorism financing.

http://www.antiwar.com/orig/azulay.php?articleid=3642

The proposed legislation would add the death penalty as punishment for federal felonies that result in death and meet the PATRIOT Act's definition of international or domestic terrorism ? a definition which has itself been a point on contention for rights groups across the political spectrum because of its breadth. The PATRIOT Act says domestic terrorism includes any crimes that "involve violent acts or acts dangerous to human life" and "appear to be intended" to influence government or a civilian population by "intimidation or coercion."

The ACLU says this definition is "so broad that many legitimately fear they could cover the civil disobedience activities of diverse protest organizations, including Operation Rescue, Greenpeace, and the anti-globalization movement."

In his statement to the Judiciary Committee, Edgar wrote: "This 'catch-all' death penalty provision would ? seriously exacerbate the already considerable chilling effect of the USA PATRIOT Act's 'domestic terrorism' definition on political protest groups that use tactics of civil disobedience. . . . Protest organizations have already been significantly chilled by the USA PATRIOT Act's definition of some civil disobedience tactics as forms of terrorism. A death penalty based on that definition would multiply the chilling effect dramatically."

pussys

:mad:

guess nobody cares:helpme

you voted, now you got it retards


thats all i can say

hehe, so basicaly Bush can do anything he wants and if you don`t like it you`re a terrorist and you`re gonna die hehehe, fuckin hell, only in America :thumbsup

antiwar.com isn't exactly an unbiased news source:2 cents:

why do you look for excuses to discredit it? are you in denial?

how about the aclu? http://www.aclu.org/SafeandFree/Safe...ID=12161&c=206
or
wired http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0..._story_related
or
microsoft/msn http://slate.msn.com/id/2088106/

denial kills

The Sky Is Falling and they are going to kill us all!!!! :1orglaugh

There is something you obviously do not understand, its called the United States Constitution and it is actually upheld by what we call the United States Supreme Court.

Nobody is going to be put to death in this country without a trial, and the death penalty is not going to be expanded to any other crimes other than what it is now.

Sorry to burst your bubble, you'll have to deal us alive Americans for quite some time to come.

Thank God the Bush administration hasn't shown a desire/willingness to change that:winkwink:

the amount of 10yr old half wits posting continues to grow.:1orglaugh

are you one of those people who thinks the government is always after you?

Not blindly believing everything you read is not "being in denial", it's "not being a complete fucking idiot".


As far as your other links go... the ACLU isn't exactly unbiased and that article is about something that fell through almost 2 years ago, the Slate article is the second part of an article about the first Patriot Act, and the Wired article is almost 2 years old, does not confirm what you posted here and is about something that eventually fell through.

Basically, you are an uninformed fuckhead who doesn't even realize that the article he posted isn't actually about Patriot Act II (which will not be introduced and is not being proposed) but about the TFTA, which even according to antiwar.com only "contains several provisions that were originally proposed in a leaked draft of the Domestic Security Enhancement Act".

Yeah, ahh... Bush OWNS the supreme court dude...

the patriot act has already destroyed the connstitution you morons...learn how to read

that's just what I was thinking.

let the sheep keep laughing, mostly he doesn't really understand what's going on, to the sheep they think this shit is all fun and games

Maybe you better go back to school and learn something about how laws work in this country. :1orglaugh

Actually it comes from having an education. I am a Progressive Democrat and I am fully well aware that nobody in this country has the powers to do what it is being suggested.

There is being cautious and questioning the actions of authority, and then there is blind, paranoid, irrational reaction which only makes you look stupid.

stop being a fucking sheep and read the patriot act because your congress person didn';t :1orglaugh

if you have the time

also bush have already stated that the fisrt thing he do is to make sure this gets passed PA2

You mean the same Patriot Act that is already being torn to shreads by Federal Courts? :1orglaugh

Get a fucking clue, ya ok I am a Democrat sheep who opposes Bush at every turn.

You make all of us look stupid when your only argument is that everyone who has a political education are sheep.

:1orglaugh , bush doen't get fuck about no laws, get the fuck outta here....you must haven't opened your eyes and see he can do what he wants, how he wants...


Americans could have their citizenship revoked, if found to have contributed "material support" to organizations deemed by the government, even retroactively, to be "terrorist." As Hentoff wrote in the Feb. 28 Village Voice: "Until now, in our law, an American could only lose his or her citizenship by declaring a clear intent to abandon it. But -- and read this carefully from the new bill -- 'the intent to relinquish nationality need not be manifested in words, but can be inferred from conduct.'" (Italics Hentoff's.)


Legal permanent residents (like, say, my French wife), could be deported instantaneously, without a criminal charge or even evidence, if the Attorney General considers them a threat to national security. If they commit minor, non-terrorist offenses, they can still be booted out, without so much as a day in court, because the law would exempt habeas corpus review in some cases. As the American Civil Liberties Union stated in its long brief against the DSEA, "Congress has not exempted any person from habeas corpus -- a protection guaranteed by the Constitution -- since the Civil War."


The government would be instructed to build a mammoth database of citizen DNA information, aimed at "detecting, investigating, prosecuting, preventing or responding to terrorist activities." Samples could be collected without a court order; one need only be suspected of wrongdoing by a law enforcement officer. Those refusing the cheek-swab could be fined $200,000 and jailed for a year. "Because no federal genetic privacy law regulates DNA databases, privacy advocates fear that the data they contain could be misused," Wired News reported March 31. "People with 'flawed' DNA have already suffered genetic discrimination at the hands of employers, insurance companies and the government."


Authorities could wiretap anybody for 15 days, and snoop on anyone's Internet usage (including chat and email), all without obtaining a warrant.


The government would be specifically instructed not to release any information about detainees held on suspicion of terrorist activities, until they are actually charged with a crime. Or, as Hentoff put it, "for the first time in U.S. history, secret arrests will be specifically permitted."


Businesses that rat on their customers to the Feds -- even if the information violates privacy agreements, or is, in fact, dead wrong -- would be granted immunity. "Such immunity," the ACLU contended, "could provide an incentive for neighbor to spy on neighbor and pose problems similar to those inherent in Attorney General Ashcroft's Operation TIPS."


Police officers carrying out illegal searches would also be granted legal immunity if they were just carrying out orders.


Federal "consent decrees" limiting local law enforcement agencies' abilities to spy on citizens in their jurisdiction would be rolled back. As Howard Simon, executive director of Florida's ACLU, noted in a March 19 column in the Sarasota Herald Tribune: "The restrictions on political surveillance were hard-fought victories for civil liberties during the 1970s."


American citizens could be subject to secret surveillance by their own government on behalf of foreign countries, including dictatorships.


The death penalty would be expanded to cover 15 new offenses.


And many of PATRIOT I's "sunset provisions" -- stipulating that the expanded new enforcement powers would be rescinded in 2005 -- would be erased from the books, cementing Ashcroft's rushed legislation in the law books. As UPI noted March 10, "These sunset provisions were a concession to critics of the

Ok so I am going to listen to an argument from non-American who cannot even speak English and is trying to tell someone who majors in Political Science what is and isnt in MY COUNTRY! :1orglaugh

Yep ok I'll go open my eyes now.... TARD!

Consideirng how many illegals Bushs want to keep letting in here I would make know ENGLISH a requirement to be able to talk about America.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

No sorry, I guess you do not understand, an actual education of the American legal and political system is required.

If you cannot put a proper sentence together, you probably do not meet that requirement. Apparently neither of you meet this requirement, something you both also have in common with Bush.

1 way or another, you are going to die

Hey LOOK!!! its 12clicks holding a sign - SHOOT THE BASTARD !!

oh wait, thats not him, fuck it - shoot him anyways for just being an annoying kid posting on an adult chat board


http://i.timeinc.net/time/photoessay...ck/protest.jpg

I love employees living with mommy putting me in my place.:1orglaugh

:glugglug

datezonline = directfiesta :2 cents:

He's not ten....he's psychotic.

His name is Ken and has a long history of mumbling incoherent thoughts, if one can call them that.

boy am i glad im out of that racket
haxing is bad

or Rich:1orglaugh

His name is Ken aka AWT aka a million other nicks.

Or Webby....:disgust

http://www.web.ca/~jharnick2/iii/arnold.jpg

No doubt.