Could this industry use a collection agency?
 

Anyone have any numbers on unpaid hosting bills, ad spots, content sales, unpaid affiliates etc.

Is this industry large enough for a collections firm to make an introduction?

Just a nightly brain fart, discuss...

definately a service that can be done...

definetly :thumbsup

but is there a market for it?

It would be better using contracts

There is always going to be a percentage of people who breach contracts and don't pay. When you get a credit card, you abide by a legally binding contract, when you take out a loan, take out a mortgage etc... there are always those who will bail out

:1orglaugh you might be right

yes collecting from someone in britain, russia, manila, and so forth is quite easy :uhoh

My guess is that its big enough for something like that.....

Can't 123bill.com be used for that as well as for selling memberships?

If I remember correctly 123bill serves more of a business to consumer market. My idea was strictly b2b, at least at the begining. People who bailed out on hosting bills, ad spots, sponsors who fail to pay without cause and several other things I can't think of off the top of my head right now.

ya need to think how your gonna collect from 8k miles away :glugglug

Hey develop the model and run with it. I think its a great idea!

it can be done, but depending on the account may not be worth the long distance fees incured lol...

It could start off as a domestic service and if it prospers look into international avenues

well if you charge %25 I think that would give enough of a profit and make it worthwile for people to use you...

Well the point is with a contract its an easy lawsuit. Fuck waiting for a collection agency to maybe collect on it, and take their nice big chunk.

Just sue their ass.

True, 123bill is marketed as a B2C solution.

But it would be worth asking them if it can be used for b2b as well. If their answer is yes, it looks like you'd have much everything that you need

Anything collected will be "found money" for the clients... by the time account reaches collections it's a write off for the company. Any monies recovered will be counted as profit for the client.

A lawsuit for a $200 hosting bill or a $300 ad spot? Highly unlikely.

Small claims? And without a signature, good luck collecting on shit. They can dispute the debt, and you have no proof they were ever involved.

And why would people use this service when they could use a normal collection agency that will probably charge less

Adult companies may feel more comfortable keeping the business "in the family" lol... nevermind the fact that mainstream collections might not want to deal with adult.

Fuck you pay me

bump for a new possible venture :)

Let's hear some more feedback!

I have a couple Goomba friends that would be intrested

:Graucho

what better way is there to say something

I love this idea. Detoxed, lots of us have some small collections and do not have a relationship with a collection agency. And I do not want to build one to get my $200 from "cum slurpings sluts .com LLC".

Do mainstream too as there are lots more companies that fold or don't pay in mainstream then adult.

Collection agencies don't even work.

Well unless they like getting a phonecall everyday at 8:00 am they better pay up :winkwink:

certain things at the top of my head for proof... for hosting bills, the whois on the domain name hosted should be proof enough. Same with ad spots, whois on the domain being advertised etc. There are definetly ways to obtain evidence of a purchase with some tracing, but most companies don't have the time or resources to do so. Like I said before it's found money for the clients that otherwise would have wrote it off.

there's BIG money in collections :winkwink:

:)

Honestly, if they didnt fork over the cash for hosting, they have issues that need addressed in there life. You arent going to be able to get blood from a stone.

that would be good, people from all over the world owe me money, but I don't think it's quite easy to get money from tons of different countries

I just checked to see if AdultCollection.com was available but it's owned by Ult Search, who just sold their domain portfolio for $164M. LOL.
http://board.gofuckyourself.com/show...adid=393035&s=
maybe you can make them an offer before they close their deal.

but great idea.

hehe no biggie, there are plenty of brandable domains available :winkwink:

I worked in collections for almost 10 years pre internet days.

You can do the adult collections, its a matter of having certain things in place. Detailing them all would be seriously long ass post...

If you'd like to discuss ICQ me at 160541645 anytime

wow 10 years eh?

How about an independent service that hold payments untill both parties agree on a job well done?

Wouldn't that be an Escrow service? Good idea nonetheless and I don't think there are any adult specific ones.

"Your son/daughter owes a sum of money to the "adult widget company." If they do not pay we will be posting a complete article in the local newspaper. Thank You


I think their is a future in it:thumbsup

It definitly would help ... too many scammers arround . At least we can give them bad credit

This is the company we deal with for collections, they only charge 20% of the amount COLLECTED.

http://www.vwainc.com

We have sent them a bunch of unpaid advertising invoices, I'm sure a few people from this board that owe us money will be hearing from them soon.

DH

P.S. They do deal with adult, there are at least 2 big companies in adult that already use them.

Interesting stuff! Glad to hear there is actually a market for this. Do you have an approximate % of invoices that go unpaid?

To be as polite as possible, that is none of your business.

DH

Not a problem, was just curious.