God damn Ukraine is fucked up...
 

and just getting worse every day...

I was born there btw

No shit.

If you thought that US elections were rigged, read on what happened in the past few days there. Such a beautiful country and so damn corrupt.

Yeah! Can you imagine a country that allows someone to be voted as president that didn't actually get the majority share of the vote?!?!? That's fucked-up man..... :Graucho

keep crying..
you and I know that most americans voted for Bush... TWICE

It's gonna be like Belarus soon...

Lukashenko, president (or shal I say Tsar) of Belarus, has made a new law which allows him to be elected again even after being president for two terms...

Nope, it looks like Youschenko will actually be the president :)

it doesn't really matter.
I believe they're both the same shit.

Majority of the people there will continue to get more poor, and life there will suck in the future even more then today..

That's what smart people do in a democracy when their elections are rigged. They don't just accept it and not ask questions because the state controlled television tells them to, stupid people do that.

ahahahahahaha

That's about as observant as saying Kerry and Bush are the same.

quit smoking weed

http://www.guardian.co.uk/ukraine/st...357691,00.html :thumbsup

Its not about corruption.
It's about Ukrainian people having the guts to stand up and oppose dictatorship (unlike american sheep).

Quit watching TV.

dude, you really know shit about Ukraine and how things work there... I can't believe you compare it to the US

what part ?

alexg, how can you argue with that statement? What do you think smart people should do when their elections are rigged?

lmfao, half of my family is from the Ukraine.

actually I can say I almost did, since I started studying this year :(

well I was born there with my whole family. and I still have family members living there today..

Harkov

It doesn't show yet. I wonder how long it will take to wear off. Maybe try giving it up altogether for a couple years.

1. the US elections were not rigged
2. you are being naive if you think that a few thousand of Ukrainians who went to the streets to protest because they were given a bottle of vodka to do it, or told all kinds of crap, are smart and understand the whole situation correctly.

only after you quit smoking weed

lol, well my dad...

What does that have to do with me following Ukrainian politics? You've proved your ignorance on the subject by suggesting the two candidates are the same. They're opposites in many ways, like Bush and Kerry.

anyway, I'm off to bed..
I'll check this thread tomorrow, and reply accordingly :)

good night every one...

and don't forget, weed is not good for your mental nor physical health...

STFU. You dont know shit about whats going down here.

Today there were 500k people protesting on the streets only in Kiev.

How do you know that? There are clearly all kinds of problems with them, my point is that you have to be a dumbed down TV zombie to not want at least an investigation into the problems, no matter which candidate you support. The US elections wouldn't fly in any other democratic country, including the Ukraine. You have to be a fucking idiot to accept the fact that a Bush campaign chairman secretly controls all the voting machines and that the media is hardly talking about widespread problems including too many people voting in several districts, a fucking idiot.

Don't give him a hard time, he doesn't really understand what's going on anywhere.

I love it when morons try to appear smarter than they actually are without having any idea wtf they're talking about.

The jew-boy ran away with his tail between his legs to hide in israel, and has the nerve to discuss what is now going down in Ukraine.

Idiot.

That is sad i've always wanted to visit there and the US election was rigged the machines that were made by a staunch republican company were over welmingly in Bush's favor even in normally Democratic areas...

I think it is good that the Russian backed candidate won the election, be it rigged or not

:helpme

I've been in Kiev. Such a beautiful city, such unbelievable ice cream. It's a shame that Ukraine is suffering. It has such hard working population.

I have seen a little about it, but dont have the time to follow. Will one guy be that much better than the other???

I guess one waay to see it would be that the US puppett would have the best chance.

I might have been wrong about the number of people protesting.

My whole point was that for most Ukrainian people, both candidates would be pretty much the same, BECAUSE most of the Ukrainian people are dealing with basic problems such as basic life conditions. none of the candidates will be able to give food to all the hungry people, none of them will give the senior citizens the money they need to live a proper life.

btw, DJ, I thought we were cool...
But it looks like the anti-semitism has infected you as well...

Do you know that the candidate who "won" is a convicted felon and served 2 terms ?

Mafia is taking over the power.

he's always fucked up in his place.