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directfiesta 11-16-2004 09:48 PM

Chief of C.I.A. Tells His Staff to Back Bush
 
I tought the CIA job was to put together information, compile it and analyse it, without partisanship ...

At least, that is what president Carter was saying tonight in an interview...

But I forgot that you have to blindly follow King George ...

Quote:

WASHINGTON, Nov. 16 -

Porter J. Goss, the new intelligence chief, has told Central Intelligence Agency employees that their job is to "support the administration and its policies in our work,'' a copy of an internal memorandum shows.

"As agency employees we do not identify with, support or champion opposition to the administration or its policies," Mr. Goss said in the memorandum, which was circulated late on Monday. He said in the document that he was seeking "to clarify beyond doubt the rules of the road."


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/17/po...er=rssuserland
So, if the president says that Timbuktu has WMD, the CIA will provide the proof as requested ....

You guys are not even on the right, you are on the facist end....

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Wiggles 11-16-2004 09:49 PM

guess there's no chance they'll snipe Bush then :( so much for that dream.

Juicy D. Links 11-16-2004 09:49 PM

our whole govt is fucked up :2 cents:

Nysus 11-16-2004 09:54 PM

That really should be worrying the whole population.

See, Bush's fault is that now when he tries to go into other countries that he WILL need support in, and normally other countries would support him - I don't think they will now.

Matt

messiah1 11-16-2004 11:04 PM

This is bad, we the American leftists better watch our backs.

Doctor Dre 11-16-2004 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nysus
That really should be worrying the whole population.

See, Bush's fault is that now when he tries to go into other countries that he WILL need support in, and normally other countries would support him - I don't think they will now.

Matt

The republican way of thinking is :

Everybody should think like their leaders, it should make thigns much easier if they support him

theking 11-16-2004 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta
I tought the CIA job was to put together information, compile it and analyse it, without partisanship ...

At least, that is what president Carter was saying tonight in an interview...

But I forgot that you have to blindly follow King George ...



So, if the president says that Timbuktu has WMD, the CIA will provide the proof as requested ....

You guys are not even on the right, you are on the facist end....

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

The CIA is required to support Admininistration Policy no matter who is in office. They are not policy makers...the Administration makes policy. There job is to collect and analyze intel...end of story.

BradM 11-16-2004 11:19 PM

I heard they are looking into renaming the CIA to the Reichssicherheitshauptamt.

SuckOnThis 11-16-2004 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking
The CIA is required to support Admininistration Policy no matter who is in office. They are not policy makers...the Administration makes policy. There job is to collect and analyze intel...end of story.

I'm curious, what exactly would Bush have to do in order for you to question his actions? I'm really starting to believe you would have no problem with a complete dictatorship.

theking 11-16-2004 11:25 PM

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Originally posted by SuckOnThis
I'm curious, what exactly would Bush have to do in order for you to question his actions? I'm really starting to believe you would have no problem with a complete dictatorship.
The CIA has been required to support Administration Policies since there has been a CIA. There is absolutely nothing new here. They have simply been reminded of that fact.

theking 11-16-2004 11:27 PM

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Originally posted by theking
The CIA has been required to support Administration Policies since there has been a CIA. There is absolutely nothing new here. They have simply been reminded of that fact.
They are basically in the same shoes as military officers. They too are required to support Administration Policies.

theking 11-16-2004 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SuckOnThis
I'm curious, what exactly would Bush have to do in order for you to question his actions? I'm really starting to believe you would have no problem with a complete dictatorship.
I question many of his policies. I am not a fan of President Bush. I would have a major problem with a dictatorship..."complete" or otherwise and would physically fight against same. This President has yet to breach his oath of office or the power of his office. The Congress and/or the Court will let him know when he does...as they have done with Presidents in past history. Until that time Mr. Bush...holds the office of the Presidency...whether I like his policies or not.

Paul Markham 11-16-2004 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta

So, if the president says that Timbuktu has WMD, the CIA will provide the proof as requested ....

You guys are not even on the right, you are on the facist end....

As happened with Iraq, even if they did show evidence that did not support the theory it was ignored.

This is actually a lot scarier than you imagine.

The problem is the "CIVIL SERVICE" which is the administration around the goverment has to be non partisan and unbiased. Who's to say the statement by Goss would hold true in Kerry had won?

directfiesta 11-16-2004 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradM
I heard they are looking into renaming the CIA to the Reichssicherheitshauptamt.
They already ordered the new logos ...

B.I.A.

directfiesta 11-16-2004 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking
They are basically in the same shoes as military officers. They too are required to support Administration Policies.
I tought these guys were for that, not the CIA :

http://www.dia.mil/

theking 11-17-2004 12:23 AM

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Originally posted by directfiesta
I tought these guys were for that, not the CIA :

http://www.dia.mil/

All fifteen of the US intel agencies are under the same requirement...in that they are required to support Administration Policy. They are not policy makers...they may not attempt to subvert Administration Policy from within or from without. They are free to vote how ever they choose to...the same as Military personell...but cannot publically support any political party. If they are caught in committing an act of partisanship...they are subject to be fired and under certain circumstances...criminally prosecuted.

theking 11-17-2004 02:41 AM

Now that I have educated you about the subject at hand...well...I am awaiting to educate you again...as I know your America bashing will continue.

xclusive 11-17-2004 02:47 AM

Our whole country is fucked because we put it in the hands of a man that was a coke head and the only success that he has ever had was to be born a Bush. He is a loser and he is going to be the cause of many more innocent lives being lost and he won't give a shit. i love my country very dearly and i'm very heartbroken by the way things are being run...

sacX 11-17-2004 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking
All fifteen of the US intel agencies are under the same requirement...in that they are required to support Administration Policy. They are not policy makers...they may not attempt to subvert Administration Policy from within or from without. They are free to vote how ever they choose to...the same as Military personell...but cannot publically support any political party. If they are caught in committing an act of partisanship...they are subject to be fired and under certain circumstances...criminally prosecuted.
In international law, following orders is not a defence :)

theking 11-17-2004 03:00 AM

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Originally posted by sacX
In international law, following orders is not a defence :)
I suppose you had a point to make...but it escapes me. The CIA and the Military answer to US law and the UCMJ...respectively.

sacX 11-17-2004 03:09 AM

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Originally posted by theking
I suppose you had a point to make...but it escapes me. The CIA and the Military answer to US law and the UCMJ...respectively.
If the administration is espousing an immoral policy, then although it may be illegal to subvert them, it can be the moral thing to do.

theking 11-17-2004 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sacX
If the administration is espousing an immoral policy, then although it may be illegal to subvert them, it can be the moral thing to do.
As individuals they can choose to exercise their individual "moral" outrage...if they are willing to pay the consequences...the same as anyone...anywhere. In the case of the CIA and Military personell they are subject to being fired and under certain consequences...they are subject to criminal prosecution. Agents as well as Military personell are fully aware of the laws that limit their individual actions.

Libertine 11-17-2004 03:53 AM

Befehl ist Befehl.

SpikeHeel 11-17-2004 03:57 AM

that's expected.

dig420 11-17-2004 04:30 AM

SIEG HEIL!!!!

theking 11-17-2004 04:56 AM

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Originally posted by dig420
SIEG HEIL!!!!
High again...I see...Danny boy.


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