I think Tyson would have won when he was 20. People don't like it when I say that.
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no way in hell, ali was too smart...tyson is a brawler noit a boxer, ali wouldv'e put on a clinic on homeboy, and i have much luv for tyson but he coul;dn't fuck with aliIt IS what it IS -
Tyson was probably too dominative for Ali, or for anyone when he was at his prime - brains or not, i imagine it's like trying to fight a train.Comment
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If Tyson got a solid punch or two on Ali's face, Ali would go down. Tyson is one of the hardest hitters ever in boxing.
But, if Ali was able to protect his face, and work his genius, Tyson would be defeated. He'd wear down Tyson, piss him off until he's tired out. Then Ali would destroy him.Last edited by Drake; 11-06-2004, 09:35 AM.Comment
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He's too old now. A man reaches his physical prime at 30 years old. Every year after that it's a steady decline.Originally posted by pornguy
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at that time, ali said foreman was the hardest he was hit..hard to say who hit harder formean or tyson...but i'm still say ali becasue once you get tyson past 4 rounds he;s done...and i'm sure ali would know this...hahahaOriginally posted by Mike33
If Tyson got a solid punch on Ali's face, Ali would go down. Tyson is one of the hardest hitters ever in boxing.
But, if Ali was able to protect his face, and work his genius, Tyson would be in the palm of his hands. He'd wear down Tyson, piss him off until he's tired out. Then Ali would destroy him.
edit- but if ali was fighing tyson when he was clay then he would get ass whipped....allah akbar lolLast edited by 69pornlinks; 11-06-2004, 09:39 AM.It IS what it ISComment
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Ali could have knocked Tyson out, Tyson could not take hits well, he never had to.
But, Tyson at 20 was a bulldog and would have went after him. That upper cut would have given Ali a piece of canvas.Comment
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True, Ali was a smart and strong fighter. Tyson is just a brute force fighter.Originally posted by 69pornlinks
at that time, ali said foreman was the hardest he was hit..hard to say who hit harder formean or tyson...but i'm still say ali becasue once you get tyson past 4 rounds he;s done...and i'm sure ali would know this...hahahaComment
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Originally posted by Mike33
He's too old now. A man reaches his physical prime at 30 years old. Every year after that it's a steady decline.
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Muhammed Ali all the way.... the only true boxer with brains back thanComment
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Are you saying that Butterbean is stupid?Originally posted by nickbaauw
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I think Tyson went through that phase as well LOLOriginally posted by Fake Nick
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Ali is the only man to knock George Foreman on his ass, he did it with brains and power and George was in his prime.
Tyson refused to fight an old George because he knew his power would not work vs someone so tall and he would not be able to score a knockout or a knock down.
Ali in his prime would take out Tyson in his prime in 9 rounds or less.
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Tyson @ age 20 = Ali K.O.
Tyson was the Jordan of boxing back then.
Too powerful of a punch.Still Ballin'Comment
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I'm saying that Butterbean is JoesHo.Originally posted by WEG Cory
Are you saying that Butterbean is stupid?
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Tyson was a monster, no doubt. Foreman was just as much a monster, and Liston may have been worse.
The thing about the young Ali is that he was almost impossible to hit, and since we found out later in his career that he had a cast-iron jaw - one of the best boxing has EVER seen - hitting him doesn't guarantee he's going to be hurt. Also Tyson was never a particularly strong-willed fighter, if he doesn't put you down fast his nerve might not hold up for the entire fight and Ali wouldn't be scared of him. You can't count out a Tyson quality fighter against ANYBODY, but if they fought 100 times I think Ali wins about 90.Comment
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Earnie ShaversOriginally posted by D-Money
Tyson @ age 20 = Ali K.O.
Tyson was the Jordan of boxing back then.
Too powerful of a punch.
George Foreman
Sonny Liston
Cleveland Williams
All hit as hard as Tyson, or so close that it makes no difference. The young Ali DOMINATED Sonny Liston and Cleveland Williams and the old Ali outsmarted and outboxed George Foreman and Earnie Shavers.
Ali was something truly special, there's a reason he's still called The Greatest
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With excellent head movement and very fast hands. I'd have to put him in the top 10 all time heavyweight list.Originally posted by Mike33
True, Ali was a smart and strong fighter. Tyson is just a brute force fighter.Comment
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Ali is the King, it would have been an interesting fight though
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I hear you, I'm not 100% convinced about Tyson and I've been known to make bad bets in sports pools, so what do I know. I'm just saying, I've seen Ali fight alot and Tyson, my opinion is that Tyson's punch is probably as hard as the boxers you mentioned, but Tyson had a mental factor where he really punked out some boxers with that stare. He was also way more fierce then those old school power hitters. So if you add in the "not being medicated" Mike @ 20 years old, that fierce, comin' at you hard and furious in the first round, that's the Tyson I'm talking about.Originally posted by dig420
Tyson was a monster, no doubt. Foreman was just as much a monster, and Liston may have been worse.
The thing about the young Ali is that he was almost impossible to hit, and since we found out later in his career that he had a cast-iron jaw - one of the best boxing has EVER seen - hitting him doesn't guarantee he's going to be hurt. Also Tyson was never a particularly strong-willed fighter, if he doesn't put you down fast his nerve might not hold up for the entire fight and Ali wouldn't be scared of him. You can't count out a Tyson quality fighter against ANYBODY, but if they fought 100 times I think Ali wins about 90.Still Ballin'Comment
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I am with D-Money.
Thing is, even if others were as powerful (not that I agree), Tyson was a compact swinging machine. He delivered blows much faster, plus he was aggressive.
My opinion, it would not be a long fight either way. Tyson could not take a punch well, seeing he didn't take many, so if Ali won, it would be before 5 rounds.
On the other hand, Tyson would likely knock Ali out before round 3. I don't care how much Ali can dodge punches, Tyson's punch array was devestating and at some points, unfair to the competition.
I have said it before, Tyson changed the way our generation watched boxing. Now, if a fight goes past 5 rounds, I am bored.Comment
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Ali was overrated but still great he wasn't a god tyson with one hit would have knocked him on his ass...Comment
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Tyson at 20 man.Originally posted by neverlearn
Ali would beat tyson like lewis did
Lewis bragged about beating Tyson, he beat a repackaged version.Comment
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Yeah, tyson was spry and tough at twenty but Ali wouldnt let him Bulldog him...tyson is short with very little reach whereas Ali was over 6'0 with long-ass reach and man could he danceOriginally posted by WEG Cory
Tyson at 20 man.
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I agree with the reach factor. I believe that was thebiggest contributing factor to his demise (other than his trainer dying).Originally posted by neverlearn
Yeah, tyson was spry and tough at twenty but Ali wouldnt let him Bulldog him...tyson is short with very little reach whereas Ali was over 6'0 with long-ass reach and man could he danceComment
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actually Tyson takes a punch very well, he's got a great chin and showed it against Lewis. It wouldn't be enough to save him against Ali though.Originally posted by WEG Cory
I am with D-Money.
Thing is, even if others were as powerful (not that I agree), Tyson was a compact swinging machine. He delivered blows much faster, plus he was aggressive.
My opinion, it would not be a long fight either way. Tyson could not take a punch well, seeing he didn't take many, so if Ali won, it would be before 5 rounds.
On the other hand, Tyson would likely knock Ali out before round 3. I don't care how much Ali can dodge punches, Tyson's punch array was devestating and at some points, unfair to the competition.
I have said it before, Tyson changed the way our generation watched boxing. Now, if a fight goes past 5 rounds, I am bored.Comment
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and ...heres a big point that hasnt been mentioned yet...Ali would be taunting tyson so bad it would be ridiculous...Joe Frazier and Tyson are pretty similar only (Ithink ) Frazier was a tougher and more durable better boxer with a good tolerance for bullshit, But there is no way in hell a guy like Tyson (ya...he 'ears ya...) is gonna stay calm cool and collective during Ali constantly putting him down in the ring. Tyson would flip RIGHT out. He would be walking forehead first into jab after jab trying to brawl and Ali would sting sting sting....So Therefore I believe Tyson become sloppy and Ali would soooooooooooo use that to his advantageDICK TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR.
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I think a better matchup would of been Tyson vs Foreman in there primes...
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At 20 yrs old Tyson was fuckin' Pit Bull ... he systematically broke his opponents down ... mudering their bodies and braking their heads (almost snapping them off) with his KILLER uppercuts and BRUTAL haymakers - it was almost unfair!
Ali in his prime was so smart and technicaly skilled and he embarrassed so many of his opponents - he was the man of his generation, no doubt!
(I don't care how Ali teased, suckered and beat Forman ... Tyson was a fuckin' hot blooded ANIMAL!)
All things being equal ... both men in their primes?
Ali would have ridiculed and annoyed the shit out of Tyson leading up to the fight and Iron Mike would have ripped off his head and probably killed him!
Tyson wins by KO in 2 rounds ... Ali left in the middle of the ring in a bloody and beaten lump!
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Cus D'Amato died and King got his claws in...Originally posted by pornguy
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I dont know how you could even ask this....
Tyson is the kind of guy Ali would have loved to fight...
He is big, dumb, and swings hard.
He would be out of breath in 3 rounds from trying to get a knock out with every punch after all of the shit talking Ali did before and during the fight.
Have any of you ever watched Boxing on ESPN Classic?
George Foreman was a beast. Ali was just standing against the ropes with his face covered letting George wear his self out on his forearms.I am too good for a signatureComment
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Yeah I've seen that fight. It's really a tough call. I think that nobody compares to Tyson in his prime. Foreman was tough but nobody was the fierce animal Tyson was. If he connected with Ali's head, Ali's head would implode. At the same time, there is no doubting Tyson is a big dumb idiot who Ali could play mind games with, taunt, tease, and cause Tyson to lose focus, easily wearing him down after a couple of rounds, in which Ali would pummel Tyson mercilessly.Originally posted by th3g4me
I dont know how you could even ask this....
Tyson is the kind of guy Ali would have loved to fight...
He is big, dumb, and swings hard.
He would be out of breath in 3 rounds from trying to get a knock out with every punch after all of the shit talking Ali did before and during the fight.
Have any of you ever watched Boxing on ESPN Classic?
George Foreman was a beast. Ali was just standing against the ropes with his face covered letting George wear his self out on his forearms.
Ali is a better fighter, so my odds are on him. He's also strong and has a strong jaw.
But few have the power and ability to connect like Tyson. Whether you're hands are up or not, he'll eventually pop you in the face HARD the second they're not. He'll find that hole and all it takes is one of his punches to completely subdue his opponent.Last edited by Drake; 11-06-2004, 11:40 PM.Comment
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An easy way to settle this is just go to your local video store and look for boxing movies and see who has more made about them.
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mohamed ali, too smart for tyson.Comment
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The thing I find most remarkable about Ali is that he could hit you from any angle. He could be side stepping, back peddling or even stumbling and he'd still land straight, hard blows.
Tyson was a bulldog who I think honestly liked hurting people. This man punched through a brick wall in his dressing room. His best punch was that low fake stand-up uppercut. I've seen guys feet leave the ground from that punch.
I'm not sure who would win, but it'd be a hell of a rumble and that's for sure..Comment
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I agree....Originally posted by J$tyle$
At 20 yrs old Tyson was fuckin' Pit Bull ... he systematically broke his opponents down ... mudering their bodies and braking their heads (almost snapping them off) with his KILLER uppercuts and BRUTAL haymakers - it was almost unfair!
Ali in his prime was so smart and technicaly skilled and he embarrassed so many of his opponents - he was the man of his generation, no doubt!
(I don't care how Ali teased, suckered and beat Forman ... Tyson was a fuckin' hot blooded ANIMAL!)
All things being equal ... both men in their primes?
Ali would have ridiculed and annoyed the shit out of Tyson leading up to the fight and Iron Mike would have ripped off his head and probably killed him!
Tyson wins by KO in 2 rounds ... Ali left in the middle of the ring in a bloody and beaten lump!
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Tyson is Stronger but, Ali Had a good reach, good feet/rhythm and good speed. So I would say Ali, but it would be a tight one!Comment
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I'll vote for ali. He's the greatest.Comment
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