Hells Angels versus the Russian Mob - who would win?
 

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Who are the Russian Mob ? We have Hells Angels here.. but never heard of the Mob..

I guess that answers my question.
Russians would own them.

Vladmir and Boris would certainly kick some biker ass

Hells Angels would win, mostly because the "Russian mob" is not a single organization but instead tons of different criminal groups, many of which would never work together.

Not sure who would win, but it would sure be a blood bath.

Clearly the Hell's Angels. Russian mob is dying out due to Homeland security act.

Russkies. More manpower, money, organisation, determination...the list goes on. They're psychotic sons of bitches.

If it came down to this, there would be A LOT of biker funerals :1orglaugh

they work together ....

you wish :1orglaugh

Supratelecom in South Florida is run by some Russians :Graucho :Graucho

Russian Mob - :BangBang: - Hells Angels

Dude, Finland and Russia are two different countries.
Fix your location ?

My dad can beat up your dad:winkwink:

The russians like to be discreet, brings less heat.
But they are flourishing here in Montreal with export of stolen luxury cars and escort/massage parlors.

I think thats the Hells Angels

Hells Angels are drug trafficers.

In Montreal if I had to bet I would put my money in the Russian mob. Besides, most of the Hell Angelsbig players are serving time in jail.

I guess only law enforcement would really know the strength of each of these groups. It's just incredible how huge both are and how powerful.

Do you guys know people that belong to these gangs?

i think the Russian Mob would take it ...those guys are cold hearted killers ...the Hells Angels are street fighters and mostly just want to make a quick buck and party .....

The russian mob in montreal must be pretty weak.. you never hear about them...

Im guessing bikers rule in Canada.. or in th east at least.. DOnt know much about the asian mafia out west...

And.. Montreal Italian mafia is not what it used to be ....

That's because they've learned from their mistakes, remember in the the 1990s when they're were getting arrested for operating "massage parlors":winkwink:, and refined their operation.

How the fuck would you know shit like this??? I KNOW people who are HA and I have no idea how strong they are or what they do. All I know is they are dangerous and not to be fucked with.

Many Russian mobsters are in the BILLIONS a year bracket - Most counties couldn't handle a war with them if they got together. Bikers wouldn't stand a chance...

they're both powerful but it can't be compared.

at least here HA does a lot of drug trafficing, collect debts and shit like that.

while the Russians have a much more mixed up business.
cigarettes, drugs, casinos, escorts, real estate... whatever, they do pretty much everything which gives them a much more powerful network then just dealing with junkies.

the 2 organisations really can't be compared for serveral reasons.

I know some 81's from Oakland, A few from SF too, they are pretty hardcore people..

I think alot of people underestimate HA still.. They are still very ruthless people.. the toys for tots is just a way to look more mellow haha..

i agree

I thought the Ukrainian mob was the up and coming crazy violent ones.


FBI: Albanian mobsters 'new Mafia' CNN - August 18, 2004

From Justice Producer Terry Frieden

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Thousands of Albanians and others who fled the Balkans for the United States in recent years have emerged as a serious organized crime problem, threatening to displace La Cosa Nostra (LCN) families as kingpins of U.S. crime, top FBI officials said Wednesday.

The Albanian criminal enterprises, operating largely in New York and other Eastern seaboard cities, represent a major challenge to federal agents because of their propensity for violence and brutality, the officials said.

"They are a hardened group, operating with reckless abandon," said Chris Swecker, the newly named FBI assistant director for the Criminal Investigative Division.

Swecker and other officials said some of the Albanians served as enforcers in the established Mafia families for several years.

When the FBI dealt a major blow to the LCN families in recent years, the Albanians began to emerge, and now are taking over turf once controlled by the traditional mob bosses.

Officials said ethnic Albanians from Kosovo, Macedonia and Montenegro are included in the clans and crews that emerged in the organized crime world.

FBI officials said Russian and many other organized crime groups operating in the United States are much more sophisticated and less violent than the Albanians.

Part of the Albanian emergence stems from the FBI's success in busting the LCN.

Operation Buttondown, the code name for the FBI's campaign to crush the Mafia, reduced the number of families operating in the United States from 24 to only nine, the FBI officials said.

More than 100 leading members of LCN and more than 600 associates were arrested in the crackdown on organized crime.

Although no terrorism connection has been discovered, the FBI says it is closely watching to see whether the militant Muslims in the emerging organized crime world demonstrate ties to organizations suspected of involvement in terrorist financing.

The angels..those Ruskies are just a bunch of drunks:glugglug

read Thompsons Hells Angels book, good read.

The Russians would wipe them out.

Hells Angels do billions a year too - just like the Italian mafia, the yakuza, the triads, the colombians, etc.

The key word in what you said, though, is "if". IF the Russians got together, the HA would be no match. However, they won't.

most childish gfy thread ever :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

organized crime with almost limitless amounts of funding and "troops" or a bunch of fat bikers who sell drugs off the back of their harleys?

girl scouts would own them both

Hells Angel's are too old now. the mob always has new ppl, people getting more and more ruthless.

russian mob of course.... simple question

"the rock machine" has always had ties to russians.

Speaking of mobs...

You guys should watch "Brother"



http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0222851/

Excellent review, plus shit load of bllood :D

Read the red mafia and you have your answer, i would say surely the russian mob due to the amount of people and the amount of weapons.

the russians. something about russians that makes u not want 2 fuk with them.

I think it just comes down to which one makes more money and therefore is more powerfull.

Hell's Angles from what I understand are mainly into drug trafficing. I was once told they were the largest Meth trafficers in the U.S. I wouldn't be surprised if they are doing "Billions" a year. But they are mainly just a U.S. organization

The Russian mob I think is into a lot, lot more things besides drugs and also operates in many more countries. So my guess is the the Russian mob makes more money and has more resources spread out over the globe.

So my money is on the Russians..

never underestimate the power of Russia and especially the Russian mafia, which are basically ex-KGB hardcore people

knock-knock... russian mafia is here ;) koroche, vsem nachinat' boyat'sya po bystromy :)

The right question is:

"Do HA have access to Nuclear Weapon?"

Russian gangsters have connections with Russian: politics, oil & gas companies, army etc.

But fun, isn't it? :winkwink:

The Hell's Angels would have whooped their ass in the 70s, but biker groups have changed since then. I am not sure if the Hell's Angels are still as rough as they were, but I know most biker gangs that were once crazy fuckers have families and shit now mostly just ride for fun and get together to BBQ. :2 cents:

no weapons, the angels would win. all resources, the russians would win...

...however, it will not happen.

Hells Angels is located in:
U.S.A, Canada, Brazil, Argentina, Australia,
South Africa, New Zealand
Spain, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany, Italy,
Switzerland, Lichtenstein, Austria, England/Wales, Finland, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Greece, Bohemia/Czech Rep
& Portugal.


http://www.hells-angels.com/

You don't know what the hell your talking about....

81's always have fresh people coming in.. I think it was the VP or Prez. of the San Francisco chapter that was only about 29 or so...

They elders may be old now, but they are not stupid.. they know how to keep shit going and keep it going tight...

It surprises me how many people think that 81's are just drug slinging biker trash... You people are a bunch of don't knows...

You also have to remember that 81's have people like the Vagos that would back them up, and any other henchman outlaw style MC out there.. So you would have one hell of a fight against the russians...

Russsian Mob would eat them alive! Don't forget they're mostly ex 'KGBers'.