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quiet 11-06-2004 12:55 AM

love between people you are not related to...
 
does it really exist? if so, how do you define it?

cheers....

WiredGuy 11-06-2004 12:57 AM

I gather that weekend in Whistler is going rather well :)
WG

Dagwolf 11-06-2004 01:01 AM

Are you being cynical?

Love is staying with your wife when you could be richer, freer, getting laid more and generally having more fun on your own...

And vice-versa.

(I'm assuming you're not related to your wife ;))

SleazyDream 11-06-2004 01:02 AM

love between non relatives never seems to be the same with any two different people....

it's always different

SleazyDream 11-06-2004 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dagwolf
Are you being cynical?

Love is staying with your wife when you could be richer, freer, getting laid more and generally having more fun on your own...

And vice-versa.

(I'm assuming you're not related to your wife ;))

stats say married people have more sex than single ones.

a lot more

quiet 11-06-2004 01:05 AM

okay, i'll digress a little further. my dad, and my brother, i love to the point i would easily take a bullet for them.

i'm sure many will says they'd do the same for their spouse/sig other, but over 50% of these people end up broken up/divorced.

just trying to start an interesting thread :)

SmutGiant 11-06-2004 01:11 AM

Can't say I've ever really been in love so I wouldn't know

PersianKitty 11-06-2004 01:17 AM

What I can never understand is how someone can be so 'in love' with another person and suddenly shut it off, like a faucet, because of one thing or another.

I've seen it time and time again, but I cannot understand it. To me, an emotion is not attached to an on/off switch.

SleazyDream 11-06-2004 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PersianKitty
What I can never understand is how someone can be so 'in love' with another person and suddenly shut it off, like a faucet, because of one thing or another.

I've seen it time and time again, but I cannot understand it. To me, an emotion is not attached to an on/off switch.

i agree. when you have that feeling for a person it's always there. circumstances can tell you the relationship isn't right - but that feeling is always there.....

quiet 11-06-2004 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PersianKitty
What I can never understand is how someone can be so 'in love' with another person and suddenly shut it off, like a faucet, because of one thing or another.

I've seen it time and time again, but I cannot understand it. To me, an emotion is not attached to an on/off switch.

yes, and this is the crux of the question.

SleazyDream 11-06-2004 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
okay, i'll digress a little further. my dad, and my brother, i love to the point i would easily take a bullet for them.

i'm sure many will says they'd do the same for their spouse/sig other, but over 50% of these people end up broken up/divorced.

just trying to start an interesting thread :)

have you always been on the best of terms with you dad and brother?

relationships get stronger and weeker - love stays

reynold 11-07-2004 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
does it really exist? if so, how do you define it?

cheers....

sometimes love can never be define by words.

KRL 11-07-2004 03:04 PM

I'd take a bullet for my son and my dog and that's it.

LadyMischief 11-07-2004 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
i agree. when you have that feeling for a person it's always there. circumstances can tell you the relationship isn't right - but that feeling is always there.....
Exactly.. LOVE is not the end all and be all of everything.. It's wonderful, but in some relationships there comes a point in time when the wonder of love isn't worth the pain and suffereing the other party may inflict/experience.

LadyMischief 11-07-2004 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
I'd take a bullet for my son and my dog and that's it.
Same here, I would die for my children, but I'd also die for my husband. He's my lifemate in every possible way. I wouldn't be whole without him.

Libertine 11-07-2004 03:14 PM

Love is an illusion that only causes weakness, and is best avoided :2 cents:

xclusive 11-07-2004 03:17 PM

I am very much in love with my wife and know that I can trust her with anything...

Peaches 11-07-2004 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
does it really exist? if so, how do you define it?

cheers....

When you put their needs ahead of your own.

MrIzzz 11-07-2004 03:20 PM

i love my family because i have had 29 years of good times and hard times with them.

now ask me the this question after i spend 29 years with a woman and i will be able to give the same answer. that is if i can find a woman to spend 29 years with:)

BitterPen 11-07-2004 03:24 PM

I cannot stand most of my BLOOD relatives, so it's hard for me to say.

I love my kids, husband, parents, and I like my friends and in laws a whole bunch. That's about it. :glugglug

cyberpunk 11-07-2004 03:28 PM

If you would do _anything_ for the person. OR you when u get they shitty feeling inside if they're not aroud.

Joe Citizen 11-07-2004 04:48 PM

All emotions are just millions of years of natural selection at work.

Ross 11-07-2004 06:10 PM

Quiet. You say you'd take a bullet for your brother or Father. I'd do the same. Anyone of my close family members, mum, gran, etc.

Also tho, I have a collect group of friends I would do ANYTHING for. I'd take a bullet for them in a minute. My best friend and his girlfriend, they are part of my life. My best friend I've known for 16 years out of my 21 years on this planet.

My girlfriend, I'd do anything in this world for her also. I love her so dearly. Love in my opinion is something you always work at, it grows stronger day by day. I've not ever fell out of love with anything yet in my life. I guess one day I will. I don't look forward to it but it'll happen.

sweetums 11-07-2004 06:28 PM

Intersting question, quiet.

My closest blood relatives...there's a lot of love there in the "need-an-organ-here-you-go" sense, but not always a lot of "like". Just very different people. For me it's a love that's based in shared genetics and having more history with them then anyone else.

Somehow though I've managed to build a little "operational" family -- people I have no relation to, but who are as much family to me as my biological one. There's most definitely love that's manifested between us.

The love you feel for someone you fall in love with...well, that's the stuff that poets and writers have been trying to capture into words forever. Not even going to try here :)

BlackCrayon 11-07-2004 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
stats say married people have more sex than single ones.

a lot more

that should be obvious, you have 24/7 access to someone who loves to fuck you (if the marriage is successful). im sure it goes down with age tho. he could of been referring to get laiding with other ppl perhaps?

quiet 11-07-2004 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
I'd take a bullet for my son and my dog and that's it.
:glugglug

Furious_Female 11-08-2004 01:36 AM

I think love is one of those things that if you overanalyze it or hold your expectations too high, it won't exist for long. Like they say, there's a fine line between love and hate.

I know it exists but like it's been said in the above posts, it's on a case by case basis. What a lot of people don't understand is, all relationships have their ups and downs and they will hit a stale patch on occasion. That's life and circumstances. Someone worth being in a relationship with will stick with you in the hard times, someone who probably isn't on the same level as you, will bail at the first sign of boredom or other issues.

To me, true love is unconditional. It's forgiving, it's accepting, it's understanding, it's patient, it's not superficial, it's not materialistic and it's trusting. When you love someone, you won't notice their flaws or stress over their imperfections (be it physical or mental), you will just love them as a whole and not in a selective order.

This all probably sounds unrealistic, but it only sounds unrealistic when you have to force yourself to do all of those things. When it happens naturally, you won't even notice you are giving/receiving all of those things, all the time.

I know love exists... and I also know what it's like to have your heart torn out. Grief is the worst kind of pain. Sometimes I think humans are the unluckiest species in the world when it comes to emotions and thinking in general. :disgust

SuckOnThis 11-08-2004 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PersianKitty
What I can never understand is how someone can be so 'in love' with another person and suddenly shut it off, like a faucet, because of one thing or another.

I've seen it time and time again, but I cannot understand it. To me, an emotion is not attached to an on/off switch.

I've wondered about this for quite a while, I've come to the conclusion that because you love someone doesnt necessarily mean you have to be with them. The shutting off is simply a defense mechanism and doesnt mean deep inside they have stopped loving you.

spamofon 11-08-2004 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PersianKitty
What I can never understand is how someone can be so 'in love' with another person and suddenly shut it off, like a faucet, because of one thing or another.

I've seen it time and time again, but I cannot understand it. To me, an emotion is not attached to an on/off switch.

:(

yeah i met girls like that

i hate when people do it

that is not real love i guess

$5 submissions 11-08-2004 07:21 AM

Original post:
okay, i'll digress a little further. my dad, and my brother, i love to the point i would easily take a bullet for them.

i'm sure many will says they'd do the same for their spouse/sig other, but over 50% of these people end up broken up/divorced.
++++++++++++++++++++++

There's many differing kinds of love

There's family love.

Romantic love.

And yes, love for your fellow humans (called "goodwill")


You really can't confuse one for the other. Each has a differing purpose. :2 cents:

OWNED 11-08-2004 07:48 AM

Even true Love is not permanent.
In 100% of cases, sooner or later it fades away.

This is just how life is. Can't do anything about it

WiredGuy 11-08-2004 09:08 AM

Well said Furious Female.
WG

Furious_Female 11-08-2004 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
Well said Furious Female.
WG

Thank you very much! :)


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