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jacked 10-14-2004 07:59 AM

how to kill a website with one e-mail..
 
By John Leyden
Published Thursday 14th October 2004 08:38 GMT

How much effort does it take to get an ISP to pull public domain material using unsubstantiated legal threats? Distressingly little, according to a recent study by Dutch group Bits of Freedom.

Bits of Freedom signed up with 10 Dutch ISPs and used the websites to host text by Dutch author Multatuli, dating from 1871. Multatuli died in 1887 and his works are now in the public domain. A notice to that effect was attached to the published content.

The organisation then posed as the copyright holders of the work. A "legal representative" of the fake E.D. Dekkers society sent a "complaint" demanding that "copyright infringing" content be pulled forthwith to the 10 ISPs. The complaint - sent via a Hotmail account - cited notice and takedown provisions in the recent European E-commerce Directive.

Under the Directive, ISPs risk liability for hosting apparently illegal content on behalf on their customers. Once they are notified, they are obliged to render content inaccessible. Bits of Freedom wondered what would happen if complaints lacked legal validity. Its research is alarming for anyone concerned about online freedom of speech.

Seven of the ten providers (ISPs Tiscali, Wanadoo, Demon Internet and Planet Internet; hosting firms Yourhosting, iFast and Active24) pulled the content without either scrutinising the "offending" website or demonstrating a basic understanding of copyright law. In three cases the content was pulled within 24 hours - giving insufficient opportunity to question the basis of the complaint. The worst performer was iFast - which forwarded the personal details of its customer to the fake complainant, despite receiving no request to do so. Only XS4ALL, UPC and Freeler allowed the perfectly legal material to remain online.

"Out of the 10 providers only UPC demonstrated distrust about the origin of the complaint (the free and unverifiable Hotmail address), and only XS4ALL gave evidence that they had looked at the page, and were aware of the fact that the author had died in 1887, 117 years ago," Bits of Freedom notes.

Bits of Freedom let ISPs decide for themselves whether to take down the Multatuli web pages it registered. In real cases, customers would likely contend such orders. Even so Bits of Freedom said its test show a worrying willingness to comply with complaints without question. "It only takes a Hotmail account to bring a website down and freedom of speech stands no chance against Texan-style private ISP justice," it concludes. ®

http://www.theregister.com/2004/10/1...akedown_study/

mardigras 10-14-2004 09:29 AM

There was an idiot a few years back who trolled several newsgroups and would Sherlock Holmes for even the slightest TOS violation he could make a big stink about and had a pretty good record of having people's pages shut down. Many ISPs seem to jump through a short hoop when someone throws the word "lawsuit" around. Apparently they would rather lose the customer than sort through the facts:(

ronaldo 10-14-2004 09:31 AM

Disturbing yes, surprising no. :2 cents:

johnbosh 10-14-2004 09:33 AM

they are being more secure now, some weblog tested it

Furious_Male 10-14-2004 09:37 AM

Quote:

The worst performer was iFast - which forwarded the personal details of its customer to the fake complainant, despite receiving no request to do so.
That is way over the line.

warlock5 10-14-2004 09:37 AM

With the DMCA the host would be liable for not following a takedown notice.

Tipsy 10-14-2004 09:39 AM

Sadly unsurprising but nevertheless interesting, especially for details on those with enough of a clue to check it first.

It shows the value of a good host/ISP. While I think of it a huge :thumbsup to reliableservers who stood by me a year or two back over some similar bullshit.

Tipsy 10-14-2004 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by warlock5
With the DMCA the host would be liable for not following a takedown notice.
Only if the DMCA was valid which this clearly wasn't. You want to try applying for a job with one of the other seven. Seems they'd love to employ you :glugglug

pornguy 10-14-2004 09:44 AM

IF you have an adult site, you are guilty of anything, so they will drop that faster than anything.

Manowar 10-14-2004 09:47 AM

they cant even do their job properly... sad:(

sexeducation 10-14-2004 09:49 AM

Been through that HUNDREDS of times ...
roflmao


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