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eroswebmaster 10-13-2004 09:06 PM

Funniest Bush Fuck Up Of The Night....
 
was when he only spent like 20-30 seconds of his allotted 2 minutes on the question about Supreme Courts and Abortion.

LOL everyone just kind of stumbled around there for a second not knowing what to do.
Bush is a fucking ass clown...and if you can't recognize that this guy is a fool on so many levels and is not really in control of things in his administration then it speaks volumes about you.

Rob 10-13-2004 09:08 PM

I thought it was pretty fucked up when asked about the minimum wage increase he spins it into an education answer. I was thinking to myself, "What in the fuck is he talking about?!?!". That struck me as odd.

Did anyone else catch that?

eroswebmaster 10-13-2004 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HighOnAcid
I thought it was pretty fucked up when asked about the minimum wage increase question and he spins it into an education answer. I was thinking to myself, "What in the fuck is he talking about?!?!". That struck me as odd.

Did anyone else catch that?

LOL yeah...started talking about no child left behind.

Webby 10-13-2004 09:09 PM

I watch and listened hard.... try to ignore the split dribbling out. We all have problems from time to time....

But yea... class clown!

A total embarassment to any nation.

NickPapageorgio 10-13-2004 09:09 PM

I really liked how he totally skirted the minimum wage question by switching real quick to education. This guy is one grade-a dipshit.

Also the part where he stated that he indeed did meet with the NAACP and whatnot. He looked at that point like he was trying to squeeze out a fart without shitting on himself.

eroswebmaster 10-13-2004 09:10 PM

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Originally posted by NickPapageorgio
I he was trying to squeeze out a fart without shitting on himself.
:1orglaugh

Even my 12 year old niece who had to watch the debate for a homework assignment kept laughing at the faces he made.

Rob 10-13-2004 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NickPapageorgio
He looked at that point like he was trying to squeeze out a fart without shitting on himself.
Sharting is no laughing matter.

Pornweaver 10-13-2004 09:10 PM

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CybermedAndy 10-13-2004 09:11 PM

I thought I was the only one that noticed the spit crawling out of the side of his mouth.

Dribbling moron...

vivalaspam 10-13-2004 09:15 PM

Not quite as bad as kerry giving the same answer twice and saying 2 different things.

"The new jobs created are paying 13k less a year, than the jobs that were lost."

35 mintues later.

"The new jobs created are paying 7k less a year, than the jobs that were lost."

He done shit like this several times tonight.

Im sure you Kerry guinea pigs wouldnt pick up on any of kerry's mistakes, but the last 2 debates, kerry has had his fare share of fuckups.

MattO 10-13-2004 09:17 PM

Despite the fact that I like to make funny Bush websites I try to watch the debates objectively and I often found myself having a hard time figuring out what exactly he was trying to say. Very muddled at points.

eroswebmaster 10-13-2004 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by vivalaspam
Not quite as bad as kerry giving the same answer twice and saying 2 different things.

"The new jobs created are paying 13k less a year, than the jobs that were lost."

35 mintues later.

"The new jobs created are paying 7k less a year, than the jobs that were lost."

He done shit like this several times tonight.

Im sure you Kerry guinea pigs wouldnt pick up on any of kerry's mistakes, but the last 2 debates, kerry has had his fare share of fuckups.

Big difference in fucking up #'s and fucking up how to respond to a question.

Could you recall all those #'s they attempt to spout off during the debates? Hell fucking no. I think both of them are pulling most of it out of their ass anyway.

vivalaspam 10-13-2004 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HighOnAcid
I thought it was pretty fucked up when asked about the minimum wage increase he spins it into an education answer. I was thinking to myself, "What in the fuck is he talking about?!?!". That struck me as odd.

Did anyone else catch that?

Did you not notice how several times this evening Kerry was asked a question and he played it off, spinning it into another topic right in the middle of a sentence, then never bothered to come back and finish the sentence?

I know you may not like Bush, but come on, Kerry fucks up just as bad. I know you can't see that since you are so biased against his competition, but damn, whats good for one is good for the other.

eroswebmaster 10-13-2004 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by vivalaspam
Did you not notice how several times this evening Kerry was asked a question and he played it off, spinning it into another topic right in the middle of a sentence, then never bothered to come back and finish the sentence?

I know you may not like Bush, but come on, Kerry fucks up just as bad. I know you can't see that since you are so biased against his competition, but damn, whats good for one is good for the other.

No Kerry answered points from previous questions most of the time and then mnoved on to the question at hand...as did Bush

IntenseCash 10-13-2004 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HighOnAcid
I thought it was pretty fucked up when asked about the minimum wage increase he spins it into an education answer. I was thinking to myself, "What in the fuck is he talking about?!?!". That struck me as odd.

Did anyone else catch that?

Yeah couldn't miss that. I was shaking my head wondering why he was going off about education.

vivalaspam 10-13-2004 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by eroswebmaster
No Kerry answered points from previous questions most of the time and then mnoved on to the question at hand...as did Bush
NO
Kerry on a few accasions, went of rambling some babble that was not close to the topic in mid sentence and never came back to finish it.

I respect your decision to support kerry, but damn you can not be that fucking blind.

eroswebmaster 10-13-2004 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by vivalaspam
NO
Kerry on a few accasions, went of rambling some babble that was not close to the topic in mid sentence and never came back to finish it.

I respect your decision to support kerry, but damn you can not be that fucking blind.

Okay sure.

piker 10-13-2004 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HighOnAcid
I thought it was pretty fucked up when asked about the minimum wage increase he spins it into an education answer. I was thinking to myself, "What in the fuck is he talking about?!?!". That struck me as odd.

Did anyone else catch that?

It would be pretty fucked up to people that dont understand how politics affects jobs...

Let me start by saying that the president can only do so much for jobs.. first he can increase government... and therefore increase taxes and hire people into the govt... and pay them basically with their own money.... or he can cut taxes.. to employers..

secondly, he can do crazy stuff to hurt the long term health of the economy buy creating tariffs and stuff on products from over seas.. effectively making it so you have to produce in the us to sell in the us.. but this pisses off everyone involved... because you cant buy that nice stereo system from japan... and the economies fucked up by this action stop dealing with you etc....

or thridly, which isnt an immediate fix.. but he can fix the education system... which is causing some of our workers to be only limited in capacity to manufactoring jobs... and not only do you increase your populations capacity for higher employment you improve quality of products secondarly...

this can be controlled because we do rely upon a public education system, which is controlled and funded by the govt...

piker 10-13-2004 09:31 PM

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Originally posted by IntenseCash
Yeah couldn't miss that. I was shaking my head wondering why he was going off about education.
my guess is this is because you are a product of our below standards public education system....

see my last post.. to try to understand more..

piker 10-13-2004 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by eroswebmaster
was when he only spent like 20-30 seconds of his allotted 2 minutes on the question about Supreme Courts and Abortion.

LOL everyone just kind of stumbled around there for a second not knowing what to do.
Bush is a fucking ass clown...and if you can't recognize that this guy is a fool on so many levels and is not really in control of things in his administration then it speaks volumes about you.

what more do you want to hear about his opinion on how to pick judges?

It's a poor question... in my book... but what do you prefer kerry's answer, on how he is going to be biased in picking judges.. or bush wehre he says hes not...

my guess is you pick kerry's answer because you agree with his biases....

DIH 10-13-2004 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NickPapageorgio
I really liked how he totally skirted the minimum wage question by switching real quick to education. This guy is one grade-a dipshit.

Also the part where he stated that he indeed did meet with the NAACP and whatnot. He looked at that point like he was trying to squeeze out a fart without shitting on himself.

exactly

ShellyCrash 10-13-2004 09:34 PM

Bush dodged way more questions than Kerry.

Kerry was wrong when he said Bush never met with the Black Caucus...

... but Bush was wrong when he claimed he never said Osama Bin Laden isn't a priority, and that it was inflated - They've been running a sound clip where he said almost word for word what Kerry claimed he did.

I think Kerry's mistake was he spent more time proving Bush wrong than making his own points and proving himself right. I still feel Kerry won the debate- but Bush left him self open for some good jabs- like at one point Bush on talking about the division of the house and senate stated, "and I will continue doing that". He didn't mean to say it- but c'mon, he should have jumped all over that. Or when he did not answer Roe-v-Wade at ALL Kerry didn't stomp on his dodging.

Bush also stated that reservist troops being sent in to Iraq were happy to go to serve their country- Kerry should have come back with the record AWOL #'s- even if he didn't have the figures- at least make mention of it.

I think Kerry's touring is weighing on him- he looked tired, and I think he wasn't as sharp going into this debate as he should have been. :(

vivalaspam 10-13-2004 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by eroswebmaster
Okay sure.
Exactly the response I was expecting.
and to think you call Bush supporters sheep and blinded by his bullshit he spews daily. You have proven yourself very worthy of the same title to Kerry.

So go ahead and come back with a witty retort, calling me names or whatever. The fact still remains.

eroswebmaster 10-13-2004 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by vivalaspam
Exactly the response I was expecting.
and to think you call Bush supporters sheep and blinded by his bullshit he spews daily. You have proven yourself very worthy of the same title to Kerry.

So go ahead and come back with a witty retort, calling me names or whatever. The fact still remains.

You're like the guy worried about the speck in one man's eye when there's a 2x4 in yours.

I'm sure you can dig up something, but THE FACT STILL REMAINS that Bush cannot think on his feet, can barely formulate a sentence, stopped speaking 20-30 seconds into his allotted 2 minutes of time.

The guy is ill prepared for life on so many levels. Without the immense support team that he has had since they packaged him to be president he would still be a failed business man.

gornyhuy 10-13-2004 09:43 PM

Did you guys see Bush do the line of coke off the strippers tits right in the middle of Kerry's closing statement!!! I couldn't believe it!

vivalaspam 10-13-2004 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by eroswebmaster
You're like the guy worried about the speck in one man's eye when there's a 2x4 in yours.

I'm sure you can dig up something, but THE FACT STILL REMAINS that Bush cannot think on his feet, can barely formulate a sentence, stopped speaking 20-30 seconds into his allotted 2 minutes of time.

The guy is ill prepared for life on so many levels. Without the immense support team that he has had since they packaged him to be president he would still be a failed business man.

Like I said, "witty retort".

I see it's ok for you to be blinded as it doesn't matter as much if kerry spews bullshit, but if someone backs bush, they don't have a clue.

It's a wonder you made it this far in life, with such a shit stain mentallity.
Your momma should be proud.

:thumbsup

JDog 10-13-2004 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HighOnAcid
I thought it was pretty fucked up when asked about the minimum wage increase he spins it into an education answer. I was thinking to myself, "What in the fuck is he talking about?!?!". That struck me as odd.

Did anyone else catch that?

Yea I love how he turned that into a "no child left behind" issue. First off, not everybody can have a good "21st century job." College students mostly live off of a minimum wage job most of the time.

But he also used the "no child left behind" as a excuse for outsourcing saying, that the people losing their jobs to our sourcing should go to school, college, junior college for a "21st century job." But one thing, my job as a programmer is a 21st century job, and I know that a lot of mainstream jobs outsource their programming. Hell there is adultoutsourcing.com for the adult industry. You can't tell me that outsourcing is only for jobs like customer service, tech support. He's full of shit, imho, but then again, Kerry is only the lesser of two evils to me.

jDoG

JDog 10-13-2004 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NickPapageorgio
Also the part where he stated that he indeed did meet with the NAACP and whatnot. He looked at that point like he was trying to squeeze out a fart without shitting on himself.
That's why I watched CNN, where after the debate they talked with people (researchers, cnn news people) and showed where they talked about stuff that wasn't true.

As Kerry said, he didn't recall any meetings with the NAACP. Which CNN showed after saying that Bush did meet with the NAACP twice during his whole administration.

jDoG

eroswebmaster 10-13-2004 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by vivalaspam
Like I said, "witty retort".

I see it's ok for you to be blinded as it doesn't matter as much if kerry spews bullshit, but if someone backs bush, they don't have a clue.

It's a wonder you made it this far in life, with such a shit stain mentallity.
Your momma should be proud.

:thumbsup

I didn't see Bullshit..I saw a man do his best to debate..so he fucked up a number or two I don't fault either side for doing that.
What I clearly did see was Bush stammer and stutter for 1 1/2 hours like he always does. I saw Bush lie about his statements regarding Osama Bin Laden. I saw Bush stop speaking 20-30 seconds into his allotted 2 minutes because he's *an old Texas saying* dumber than a stick.

I'll say it again. If you can't see that this guy is a fool then it speaks volumes about you.

lim_joe 10-13-2004 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by eroswebmaster
You're like the guy worried about the speck in one man's eye when there's a 2x4 in yours.

I'm sure you can dig up something, but THE FACT STILL REMAINS that Bush cannot think on his feet, can barely formulate a sentence, stopped speaking 20-30 seconds into his allotted 2 minutes of time.

The guy is ill prepared for life on so many levels. Without the immense support team that he has had since they packaged him to be president he would still be a failed business man.


well said!!!

piker 10-13-2004 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JDog
Yea I love how he turned that into a "no child left behind" issue. First off, not everybody can have a good "21st century job." College students mostly live off of a minimum wage job most of the time.

But he also used the "no child left behind" as a excuse for outsourcing saying, that the people losing their jobs to our sourcing should go to school, college, junior college for a "21st century job." But one thing, my job as a programmer is a 21st century job, and I know that a lot of mainstream jobs outsource their programming. Hell there is adultoutsourcing.com for the adult industry. You can't tell me that outsourcing is only for jobs like customer service, tech support. He's full of shit, imho, but then again, Kerry is only the lesser of two evils to me.

jDoG

the no-child-left-behind bill isnt designed to help programmers.. its designed to help kids that dont have the ability to become programmers..

and education is the best way to combat outsourcing in the long term.... the bottom line is without changing to a socialst system... companies are always going do whats best for the bottom line...

so with better education our population will be able to provide a better line.. then outsourcing... thats the hope anyways.. otherwise we are all going to have to learn to take a pay cut...

JDog 10-13-2004 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by vivalaspam
Im sure you Kerry guinea pigs wouldnt pick up on any of kerry's mistakes, but the last 2 debates, kerry has had his fare share of fuckups.
I will admit that I didn't catch that Kerry mistake. But I know that both have made mistakes and they both have exaggerated during all the debates, and what canidate doesn't? They both want office, and they both will say what it takes to get in or back in to office.

jDoG

piker 10-13-2004 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by eroswebmaster
I didn't see Bullshit..I saw a man do his best to debate..so he fucked up a number or two I don't fault either side for doing that.
What I clearly did see was Bush stammer and stutter for 1 1/2 hours like he always does. I saw Bush lie about his statements regarding Osama Bin Laden. I saw Bush stop speaking 20-30 seconds into his allotted 2 minutes because he's *an old Texas saying* dumber than a stick.

I'll say it again. If you can't see that this guy is a fool then it speaks volumes about you.

how can you measure someones intelligence on their public speaking ability?... thats pretty narrowminded isnt it? I thought the left where supposed to be more open minded..

eroswebmaster 10-13-2004 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by piker
how can you measure someones intelligence on their public speaking ability?... thats pretty narrowminded isnt it? I thought the left where supposed to be more open minded..
I've been able to watch this man for almost 4 years as president and his entire tenure as Governor of Texas since I lived there during that time.

kane 10-13-2004 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by vivalaspam
Not quite as bad as kerry giving the same answer twice and saying 2 different things.

"The new jobs created are paying 13k less a year, than the jobs that were lost."

35 mintues later.

"The new jobs created are paying 7k less a year, than the jobs that were lost."

He done shit like this several times tonight.

Im sure you Kerry guinea pigs wouldnt pick up on any of kerry's mistakes, but the last 2 debates, kerry has had his fare share of fuckups.

actually what he said is that in Arizona ( where the debate was ) the new jobs being created were paying around 13K a year less than then jobs that were being lost but on the national level it is around 7K

piker 10-13-2004 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by eroswebmaster
I've been able to watch this man for almost 4 years as president and his entire tenure as Governor of Texas since I lived there during that time.
is his policies bad or just his speaking? i dont think he speaks clearly and is hard to follow at times... but i tend to agree with his policies... most of his policies seem pretty intelligent..

vivalaspam 10-13-2004 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JDog
I will admit that I didn't catch that Kerry mistake. But I know that both have made mistakes and they both have exaggerated during all the debates, and what canidate doesn't? They both want office, and they both will say what it takes to get in or back in to office.

jDoG

Nicely said...
It may seem that I am a Bush supporter, but I am not. I am a republican, but now I am undecided, until I make my decision on election day. It's just aggrivating to see some people not point out facts about both sides and make it look like Kerry is a Knight in shinning armor.

vivalaspam 10-13-2004 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kane
actually what he said is that in Arizona ( where the debate was ) the new jobs being created were paying around 13K a year less than then jobs that were being lost but on the national level it is around 7K
He said that huh?
Ok.

Guess ill have to watch it again just to see.

:thumbsup

eroswebmaster 10-13-2004 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by piker
is his policies bad or just his speaking? i dont think he speaks clearly and is hard to follow at times... but i tend to agree with his policies... most of his policies seem pretty intelligent..
I didn't vote for Clinton first term...one reason I thought Clinton was a horrible governor...Arkansa in terms of quality of life issues was almost dead last...Texas at that time wasn't great but it wasn't last.

During Bush's stint as governor we ended up taking over those last positions Arkansas held.
http://www.knowthecandidates.org/ktc/bushtexasranks.htm

JDog 10-13-2004 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by vivalaspam
Nicely said...
It may seem that I am a Bush supporter, but I am not. I am a republican, but now I am undecided, until I make my decision on election day. It's just aggrivating to see some people not point out facts about both sides and make it look like Kerry is a Knight in shinning armor.

I was a Kerry supporter, but I'm in the same boat as you, I am now a undecided. I am not sure who I want to vote for. Niether one gave good points on the issues I wanted to hear. The outsourcing area wasn't clear, and they both basically ignored it. I didn't like Bush's Immagration position.

Kerry, the one thing I like, is that he keeps his religion to himself. Bush said in one quote that he seeked a higher power for th war in Iraq. But Kerry saying that abortion, that some abortion isn't wrong, when being Catholic, any type of abortion is unacceptable.

But I am still undecided because of the few issues that I mentioned

jDoG

kane 10-13-2004 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by vivalaspam
He said that huh?
Ok.

Guess ill have to watch it again just to see.

:thumbsup

yeah early on he said something like " the new jobs that are being created here in arizona pay 13K less then the job that have been lost "

then later he said " nationwide the new jobs being created are paying an average of 9K a year less"

at first I went " huh?" but then I thought about it and it made sense.

also my vote for favorite fuck up of the night though goes to bush when he was asked finally asked about all the people sneaking into this country. The question was something like " over 8,000 illegal immigrants sneak into this country every day some say it is a money issue, some say a security issue, some say a human rights issue, some a political issue. What do you see it as?" and he says " I see it as a political issue, a security issue, a human rights issue and a money issue." It's not a simple question and you can take many views on it but I just started laughing because he is always busting on Kerry for taking more than one poistion on a question and he just took all positions.

piker 10-13-2004 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kane
yeah early on he said something like " the new jobs that are being created here in arizona pay 13K less then the job that have been lost "

then later he said " nationwide the new jobs being created are paying an average of 9K a year less"

at first I went " huh?" but then I thought about it and it made sense.

also my vote for favorite fuck up of the night though goes to bush when he was asked finally asked about all the people sneaking into this country. The question was something like " over 8,000 illegal immigrants sneak into this country every day some say it is a money issue, some say a security issue, some say a human rights issue, some a political issue. What do you see it as?" and he says " I see it as a political issue, a security issue, a human rights issue and a money issue." It's not a simple question and you can take many views on it but I just started laughing because he is always busting on Kerry for taking more than one poistion on a question and he just took all positions.

What don't you get? The border issue is an issue on multiple fronts.. It would be different if he had multiple solutions..

like say the border is a problem... then sign a bill allowing the border patroll to do their job... then voting for increasing the funding for the border patroll before voting against the funding ultimately.... then saying having a border patroll is a bad idea...

then you could make a flip-flop argument...

kane 10-13-2004 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by piker
What don't you get? The border issue is an issue on multiple fronts.. It would be different if he had multiple solutions..

like say the border is a problem... then sign a bill allowing the border patroll to do their job... then voting for increasing the funding for the border patroll before voting against the funding ultimately.... then saying having a border patroll is a bad idea...

then you could make a flip-flop argument...

I guess my point is the way he said it, to me, he came off like he was taking multiple positions. I never said he was flip flopping that is a different thing but he is always saying Kerry is coming down on both sides of an issue in this case he came down on all four.

For example, I understand it is a issue on multiple fronts but for me when we are at war and under the attack of terrorist having 8K people a day coming illegally into this country is A. unacceptable and B. a security issue. I know that 7998 of them are coming here most likely to get a better life or because they are poor and see this as a land of opportunity and they won't do us any harm ( other than finacially ) but it's those 2 that I'm worried about. If it's me, I would say seal the borders. Put the national guard on them and if needed keep people out by force until we get a better solution in place.

I didn't say he flip flopped I'm just saying I thought it was funny the way he said it.

piker 10-13-2004 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JDog
I was a Kerry supporter, but I'm in the same boat as you, I am now a undecided. I am not sure who I want to vote for. Niether one gave good points on the issues I wanted to hear. The outsourcing area wasn't clear, and they both basically ignored it. I didn't like Bush's Immagration position.

Kerry, the one thing I like, is that he keeps his religion to himself. Bush said in one quote that he seeked a higher power for th war in Iraq. But Kerry saying that abortion, that some abortion isn't wrong, when being Catholic, any type of abortion is unacceptable.

But I am still undecided because of the few issues that I mentioned

jDoG

Well, the outsourcing I don't see either candidate having a better idea for.. because simply its out of the presidents hands for the most part... the only thing the govt can do is subsidize or increase tarriffs... neither is good for our economy... i think we just have to take the punches of this thing untill our economy fully rebounds... its suddenly not so lucrative for canadians etc to import to us (pricing)... since our dollar isnt worth as much to them as it was... which its on its way.. the dollar is falling.. which makes it better for our manufactors to compete with foreign firms...

but the main part the govt can control is education... what is kerry's education plan? to fund the presidents plan more? that seems unrealistic since he wants to balance the budget again..

the immigration policy, i agree needs alot of help.. but kerry doesnt seem to have a better plan.... and religion i thought the president did a good job explaining... religion guides him.. like your morals guide you... im not for him modifying the constitution but that seems improbable to happen... and i think you hit the nail on the head with kerry, i get the picture most of what he says are half truths.. and are more for political gain...

uno 10-13-2004 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by piker
is his policies bad or just his speaking? i dont think he speaks clearly and is hard to follow at times... but i tend to agree with his policies... most of his policies seem pretty intelligent..
It's both. His inability to articulate what he means doesn't do him any justice. Not that it would for me because I disagree with just about all his policies on social and fiscal issues, especially the social. I'm not sure how big of a role W himself has in the formulation of his administrations policies rather than being a salesmen for those policies.

piker 10-13-2004 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kane
I guess my point is the way he said it, to me, he came off like he was taking multiple positions. I never said he was flip flopping that is a different thing but he is always saying Kerry is coming down on both sides of an issue in this case he came down on all four.

For example, I understand it is a issue on multiple fronts but for me when we are at war and under the attack of terrorist having 8K people a day coming illegally into this country is A. unacceptable and B. a security issue. I know that 7998 of them are coming here most likely to get a better life or because they are poor and see this as a land of opportunity and they won't do us any harm ( other than finacially ) but it's those 2 that I'm worried about. If it's me, I would say seal the borders. Put the national guard on them and if needed keep people out by force until we get a better solution in place.

I didn't say he flip flopped I'm just saying I thought it was funny the way he said it.

i agree its a problem... and i agreed with the president with getting a worker program going... so we can stop using resouces on the 7998 or whatever that just want to work...

i dont think national guard will help.. the border is just to big... trying to stop terrorist at the border isnt going to work.. you need intelligence.. and you need to disrupt their network so they dont have the ability to fund and plan operations...

it would be next to impossible to totally secure the borders... if someone wants in bad enough theyll find away...

piker 10-13-2004 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by uno
It's both. His inability to articulate what he means doesn't do him any justice. Not that it would for me because I disagree with just about all his policies on social and fiscal issues, especially the social. I'm not sure how big of a role W himself has in the formulation of his administrations policies rather than being a salesmen for those policies.
I get the feeling they could find a better salesman if that where the case...

i disagree with kerry's postions but i dont think hes stupid.. i think he half abadoned his idealogy to try to win an election... and i agree he has the wrong worldview.. but that doesnt mean hes stupid..

Centurion 10-13-2004 10:54 PM

On how his administration had improved the monitoring of the borders:

"We've increased the number of un-manned vechicles on the border!"

Yep..those jeeps honk every time they see someone I guess.

JenC 10-13-2004 11:02 PM

My ultimate favorite Bush fuckup:

He said in the 1st debate that doesn't approve of importing cheaper prescription drugs from Canada in fear that they might be "contaminated". However when asked what he was going to do about the lack of flu shots, he said maybe we can get some from Canada. :uhoh :1orglaugh

It's obvious some of the pill manufacturers are lobbying for keeping the supply in the U.S. and not importing from Canada. And we know Bush is famous for catering to the big businesses. :321GFY

Centurion 10-13-2004 11:08 PM

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Originally posted by topsmutlinks
My ultimate favorite Bush fuckup:

He said in the 1st debate that doesn't approve of importing cheaper prescription drugs from Canada in fear that they might be "contaminated". However when asked what he was going to do about the lack of flu shots, he said maybe we can get some from Canada. :uhoh :1orglaugh

It's obvious some of the pill manufacturers are lobbying for keeping the supply in the U.S. and not importing from Canada. And we know Bush is famous for catering to the big businesses. :321GFY

I thought the very same thought when he said that.

Plus..I'll add this one on how we can reduce the strain on our troops in Iraq:

"We can reduce the strain on our troops by succeeding!"

WTF?!?!?!?!?????????????????????
:1orglaugh


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