The Presidential Election is over.
 

John Kerry just slipped and said something so ridiculous that he won't be able to talk his way out of it like he has done so far.

We should accept an "acceptable level of terror"? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Kerry is right Whats your point?

I thought this thread meant it was really over :(

Yeah, the post definitely didn't match the subject line:winkwink:

Anyone with a lick of sense knows exactly what he means..and those who pretend they don't have an agenda.

So let me spell it out for those who are dumber than sticks.

There was a time when Terrorism didn't rule our lives...like for the last 50+ years where we knew it existed..but we didn't have fear mongers and talking heads on our nightly television telling us about the big bad bogeyman who was going to spike our water...blow up our ferries...carry shoe bombs on our planes.

We were attacked in '93...but yet we all lived our lives normally until 2001...all of a sudden we were in danger...we've always been in danger..it will happen again at some point but we have to get to a point where we control it..and it doesn't control us.

I really cannot figure out who is more stupid, Bush or his supporters.

Terrorism isn't a law enforcement type issue. To compare it to gambling and prostitution is assinine. Jeez, next he's going to compare it to online pornography.

Like his opinion or not, this is the nail in the coffin. It's already all over ALL THE NEWS SHOWS.

This is not good for Kerry.

I hope bush wins so we can impeach him and throw him in jail for war crimes. Shitz gonna hit the fan in iraq after the election. If kerry wins he'll be fucked cause there is no way to win that war, no fucking way. I don't want to see it, but I predict we spend at least 1 trillion before getting out and loose 10-20 thousand us troops. And yes this had and will coninute to make us less safe and lead to terrorist attacks on the us that make 911 look like a holiday. Bush you made the mess you clean it up! o and gofuckyourself!

LMAO, you guys are too much.

I'm confused, not quite sure what that quote by Kerry is suppose to mean?

If you think terrorism isn't a law enforcement type issue then you haven't read The Patriot Act:2 cents:

I'm afraid America can't handle reality or truth. Of course terrorism will never end. But you can't tell Americans that. You have to promise them the impossible. They'll vote for what they want to hear.

If, after 9/11, we had treated the attackers as criminals, and pursued all individuals responsible until everyone involved was captured or killed, that would have been Justice anyone could recognize, and the whole world would still be on our side.

Instead it was used as an excuse for more imperialism and motivated a million more potential terrorists. We have turned a small gang of villains into a global army.

the only way the election is 'over' is if this country prooves itself to be filled with violent religious rednecks who love prison and war...

That's exceptionally nice of you I must say.

I, on the other hand would simply come out and say that there are alot of stupid people that probably shouldn't be allowed to vote, because they're not smart enough to filter through all the bullshit rhetoric.

well said. we had a chance and bush pissed it away to finally go get iraqi oil and big reconstruction contracts for all his haves and have mores.

:1orglaugh I guess I was in a good mood when I posted it. ;)

Terrorism will never end. It's always been and always will be. What about that is hard to understand? THAT is a realistic post 9/11 view of the world.

Ah elitist liberalism at it's finest!! Cool, you tell us how we should run the country. Your votes count as five because you are just so smart!!! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

It should have been a realistic pre-9/11 view of the world too...we just liked to pretend it only happens elsewhere..and now we *the american public* imagines it's happening everywhere.

edited to add: and by that they see terrorists outside their houses...in their stores...people have been downright paranoid for going on 3 years now.

Exactly. The people who attacked us on 9/11 weren't in/from Iraq. There were so many guilty parties and others deserving of any US military force that would not have squandered the good will and sympathy much of the world had toward us after the attacks...

LOL, I'm more conservative than anything my friend.

I could never run as a politician because I'd be run out of town so fast there'd be no point. I deal in common sense. Something sadly missing in the political arena.

It's sad when Chris Rock has a more intelligent view of politics than the average citizen.

I'm conservative on some issues and liberal on others. I DON'T let ANY party tell me how I should vote.

Each issue is different and party lines should have no relevance. Unfortunately, they do. That's where our "Democracy" falls apart.

Even though I don't like Bush, I still think he's going to win.

Half of America wants him, 20% or < of the world wants him

I'm the same way. Part of the problem is people who think they need to fall within a party and once they choose a party they have to agree with everything in that party. It's OK to disagree with SOME of the issues your party is in favor of. Quite frankly, you should be concerned if you find that 100% of your views are in line with anybody elses including your party's. We all have slightly varying perspectives on things.

You could agree with Hitler's noble effort to make Germany a world power again and a center of science and civiliation, but not his policy of slaughtering jews.

You wish! :1orglaugh
It is amazing how the Republicans STRIVE to keep Americans fearful. They are not comming up with any new plans. They don't put forth new ideas to deal with terror, and exit strategy in Iraq, how to handle North Korea or Iran, what to do about the Palestinian issue, or frankly ANYTHING in forgeign policy.

On the domestic front, they have ONE program:TAX CUTS!
And those go mostly to those that don't need and do not create jobs (last report..92,000 jobs created when they were expecting around 150,000 PLUS instead).

More jobs have been lost than created during the Bush regime.

So, when your record is bad and you have nothing to offer the American people, simply go 100% negative and VILLIFY your opponent as best you can because they are OUT OF OPTIONS!

Even Bush just before the Republican convention said "No, we'll neve be able to really win the war on terror."

And actually, he's RIGHT! (for an incredible what..FIRST time!)
How do you DEFEAT terrorism completely? The only way to do it is to KILL every human being on the planet. ANY one person is capable of terrorism..and all you can do is CONTROL it, and REDUCE it. Terrorism has been around since the dawn of time and will continue to be so until the "end of times".

Thank you for proving my point! When the right wingers HAVE NO ARGUMENT against someone else's point, they fall back on "labels" and generalizations because they cannot defend their position.

sure.. france, netherland, poland etc were more than happy with his "noble effort".. yeah right..
get real :)

Thinking the same same, :thumbsup

Where is the screw up on Kerrys part?

He is..... becasue The Dem's couldn't come up with a worse candidate. John Kerry is a 1st class moron who wants the Presidency as a trophy. He'll say anything to get it.

http://www.scaryjohnkerry.com/flipflop.htm

Did you read what I wrote? I focused on two things. Hitler's idea for a stronger Germany and Hitler's policy of killing innocent people.

I said one of those ideas was good (nothing wrong with wanting your country strong) and one was bad. You seem to be suggesting I implied something quite different. Making your country the center of science, power, and civilization is a noble effort. Killing innocent people is not.

Hitler had many other policies and many other ideas. I focused on two of them to make a point. My argument stands.

What position couldn't I support? The one that people in America are smart enough and should have the right to vote? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

no offence, but it was "his war" that should have made germany stronger. and thats just wrong.

Yeah, the article itself isnt the issue, its the way Kerry says things that can SO EASILY be taken out of context and be used against him.

I mean, they use the same tatics against Bush, so he should know what hes doing. Every single sentence needs to be worded carefully during a campaign.

This kind of sloppy rambling is whats gonna hurt him in the end.

Then by all means vote for Bush who comes complete with John Ashc-r-o-ft who spends time covering up the boobs on classic American art treasures and has his eyes on the prize of controlling what Americans see on the internet (notice I did not say control what is on the internet.

Recent decisions by the supreme court have been decided by 1 vote. If you are of the mind it's better to give up much liberty for a bit of security, then by all means put the warmongers back in power for another 4 years and pump up their wallets at $2.50+/gallon. Who's your daddy? Rumsfeld.