Remove God from anything Government related
 

I know I will get many disagreements here (and agreements). But this is how I feel and why I feel the way I do. I will leave this short and let others respond.

I say remove anything with the word God from anything government related. Be it money, pledge of alligence, government building, etc...

We all have the right to Freedom of Religion in America. That means we can believe in any religion (religions without "God") or believe in no religion.

Pray in school? Anyone should be able to pray in school. But it should be at their own time and will. Meaning you can not interupt class to do it on your own or it cannot be mandated by the teacher, school, or government. So forcing pray in school would be unconstitutional.

Having God in our Pledge of Alligence. Unconstitutional. Again, the government cannot dictate any religion upon anyone.

Having In God We Trust on our money. Not talked about often, but unconstitutional. This is again the government pushing religion upon citizens.

National Day of Pray. By the former President (related to our current president) stating "by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim May 2, 2002, as a National Day of Prayer", this makes it unconstitutional. Anyone or any relgious organization can declare their own day of Pray or anything religious. But a government official cannot get involved and declare a religious day.

Thoughts? Arguements?

You won't get many disagreements on GFY. I agree 100%. Unfortunately, I'll bet we are still about 25 years away from anything like that becoming a reality.

If the constitution was meant to be interpreted like you are doing, why are there references to God inside it?

The freedom of religion, was to protect the citizens from tyranny inflicted upon the population in the name of religion by the Government, to avoid the problems like the slaughter/imprisonment of those who would not give up the Catholic faith in England - to be converted to the Church of England.

I don't think it ever meant removing the word God, from anything.

You will be shocked how some here would completely disagree.

They fight for freedom of speech, yet they find ways to say that freedom of religion is not freedom FROM religion.

Then you are interpreting more vaguely than I am. I read freedom of religion, just like I read freedom of speech. I take it literally.

You are adding upon it...maybe based on facts, but still adding wording to it that is not their.

So are you saying I do not have the right to not believing in God or a religion?

I fully agree. It should be split.

I hope you do not take the freedom of speech literally, because there are long documented cases of what you can, and can't say in the United States.

I do not see the part that says that their will be no mention of religion in the United States by the Government, only that there will be no passing of laws in reference to establishing religion, or stopping the practice of it, am I missing something?

So you are saying that their should not be In God We Trust on our money? Or under God in our pledge? Because that is establishing religion, isn't it? That is saying that God watches over this country and pushes the message of God.

Americans should rise up and get rid of all government and religion. Live free or die.

The why are they trying to use their ideas about what is or is not offensive in porn.?? That comes from the church.

Federal Reserve is a private corporation I thought? so does not apply.

The Constitution guarantees you no such seperation of Church and State. If you actually read the US Constitution, you'll find the words "Seperation of church and state" do not appear in any place.

Did I ever use those words?

So from reading what is written, how do you interpret it?

A mistake was made 50 years ago, and it must be corrected.

Great post with excellent information.

Thank you.

Why is it, that all first world nations, save one, are moving away from religious mythology?

Why does the US hang on to mythology?

Your fundies are as scary as the muslim fundies.

You nation was defined by liberal secularists: Jefferson, Franklin... and you had a close alliance with the birth nation of liberalism: France. A secular nation.

What went wrong?

When our money says "in God we trust"...... Perhap's it's not so much as "God" as a person, but the fact that the country itself was founded on Christian beliefs.

I have no problem with my children saying the pledge of alligence. I did when I was a child. Perhaps it will make them believe that there is a higher power, be it what it may.

I have no problem with it being on the money I spend.

And I see no reason why we can't have a minute of prayer in our school. For those who want to pray, they can pray. For those who don't, perhaps they can spend a moment to reflect on their day and what that day will bring to them.

Peace.

Exclude God from the USA and God will exclude the USA from his blessings. The extreme right wants to put God back in the schools. Why do you think they vote?

I think that there are too many people that take religion way to seriously and shold butt out of everybody elses choice. I believe in god and have a decent relationship with him and couldn't care less if anyone else does. I figure treat me like you would like to be treated as a person and I will be glad to treat you with that same respect...

What is wrong with believing that God watches over the USA? Nobody is going to kill you or put you in jail for believing otherwsie.

I can think of better uses for my tax money than to spend it on deleting phrases like 'In God we trust' from our money just to appease a bunch of selfish atheist pricks who are just as fucking intent on pushing their beliefs on us as they claim the right wing Chrisatian fundamentalists are.

Exactly. It is intended to "make them believe". That is religious propaganda and it has no place being taught in a public school funded by taxpayers money. Lies should not be taught in the same classroom with math and science.

I do.
What if every dollar bill said "God does not exist" instead?
There is no reason why any religious philosophy need to be printed on currency that everyone must use.

Because it is public school, not sunday school.
There are private schools for those who want that.

Most Americans would rise up to DEFEND religion and fight to the death doing it. You atheists are in the minority.

The better question to ask is why is the rest of the world rejecting God? The answer can be found in biblical prophesy. We are moving head long towards the apocalypse.

The present church age shall indeed end in apostasy rather than ending with the church conquering the whole world. The apostasy has already taken its firm stranglehold in the church by successfully leading the church away from doctrinal and moral standards that were once the fixed, unchangeable anchors of Biblical absolutes.

http://www.focusonjerusalem.com/greatfallingaway.html

Boobmaster I thought you left.

By the way, secularism definitely doesn't mean 'rejecting God'.

Who designed the banner in your sig. I love it.

The majority of the world.... believe in some kind of higher power. In the US we loosely call this "God".

Totally agree. It's like those gay groups who want the governmment to recognize gay marriage. Why? Marriage is essentially a religious ceremony. Not only should the government NOT recognize gay marriage, it should also not recognize straight marriage either.

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Marriage doesn't have to be done in a church. It can be done in a courtroom. Being married also has consequences for taxes.

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