Kerry flip flopped in the debate
 

In this first quote Kerry is basically saying he's not a flip flopper, and he has always believed and still believes Saddam was a threat.
In the second quote Kerry is speaking about the threat posed by Iran. Saying basically Iran's threat has grown while Bush was preoccupied with Iraq, where there was no threat.
He can't even keep his contradictory positions straight in one debate. What a joke. I hope the press realize this and call him on it. I can't be the only person in the world that caught that.

the keyword you're looking for is imminent.


iraq was not an imminent threat. iran was far more pressing.

we've got to prioritize here folks.

And you might have a point if that's what Kerry said, but it wasn't. In one debate he said he believes Saddam was a threat and a few minutes later he says there was no threat in Iraq. Those positions are clearly contradictory.

how dare you speak out again kerry, you bush supporting evil bastard</sarcasm>
prepair, its going to happen soon
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Kerry was referring to Saddam Hussein singularly in the first paragraph. (Wmds..etc..and NOT talking about Al Qaeda, etc)

He was talking about how the terrorist threat (Al Qaeda & others) DEVELOPED in Iraq AFTER we invaded.

No contradiction.

He said Saddam was a threat. He then said there was no threat in Iraq. Was Saddam not in Iraq, or was Saddam not a threat?

And No. He was not talking about Al Qaeda or a threat that later developed in Iraq in either of those statements.

Be a true liberal....

Just keep ignoring facts.. and making things up... ohh and dont forget to throw insults.....

Thatta Boy...

Hey Mr. Right Wing lamer...you just can't deal with specifics can you?

You live in "generalization" land! :1orglaugh

:)

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There are a lot of 'threats' in the world...almost all of them worse than Iraq. Iraq was first because it was convenient, and we 'knew' we could win because they were weak from years of sanctions. Imagine if we'd actually gone to 'war' with a country that had some real strength. It's pretty much an unethical war...and Ws arguing the ethics of stem cell research in the debate. We can kill 18 year old soldiers for no good reason, but we can't use frozen embryos that will be destroyed or kept frozen for the BEST of reasons? :(

There are things I don't trust about GW, but I trust Kerry even less, something about having 2 faces, we don't really have a true choice at something better, but changing presidents isn't going to fix things, and if your worried about Ashahahahaha, theres a news clip somewhere that's he's going to step down if they win a second term, we'll see!

This is not a choice between two honest people of the earth. This is a choice between a person who has an ideology of singleminded focus and belief he can do not wrong and a politician who knows the game is negotiation change and evolution.

Neither is god, Bush just believes he is doing God's will. I rather see a man who knows he is imperfect and makes mistakes than one one who thinks he is perfect and still makes mistakes.

Until we have a system in which a man without extreme wealth and / or a mortgaged soul can run for office we will not have good leaders.

ok what exactly is a god damn flip flop? I don't have fox :helpme

Reading problems? I had Reading Comprehension problems also when I was a kid.

Kerry is referring to 2 different countries. MMk?
Iran, and Iraq.

Awright kool.

Flip flop is a term you throw out toward the other side when your side can't stand on it's own record:glugglug

I find it funny that Bush is using the "flip flop" argument against Kerry..though Bush FAR exceeds Kerry in that category.

Look at his reason(s) for invading Iraq:

FIRST..wmds
Then when they couldn't be found early on..ties to Al Qaeda!
Then when that couldn't be proven.."Saddam's a bad man!"
*NOW* "Saddam was trying to get around sanctions to build wmds!"

Bush just comes up with a daily EXCUSE for why he invaded Iraq.

FLIPPER and a FLOPPER!

Seems you still do.

sometimes things are implied and if you take what he said in context with the question that was being asked then yes, Imminent was implied in the second statement you posted, at least thats the way I took it.

grasping.

one word; pipeline. do some research.

its all about the real underlying bosses, the handful of multinationals.

i can't belive ppl still think that democracy exists, you have to be a true retard to buy into it.

who doesn't like flip flops
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Word:thumbsup North Korea actually has WMDs and so do others....why hasent anyone brought this up?