12 killed in US air raid on wedding party in Fallujah
 

Freedom is such a difficult concept to define ....

http://www.middle-east-online.com/pi...-8-10-2004.jpg

... nice going.

full article

Yeah,

The USA is doing a GREAT job there.

Fuck

you never know, those newlyweds are always dangerous :uhoh

Does anyone actually believe the terrorist KIA numbers the Pentagon puts out?

While innocent people dying is indeed tragic, (if they were innocent), I'm having a hard time understanding why sane people would throw a wedding in the middle of a well known hot spot with ongoing fighting.

Makes about as much sense as walking through East St. Louis with a Klan suit on.

not really.

It seems funny to me that everytime an airstrike hits a terrorist house, there's magically a wedding there instead.

OH wait Bush says all is well in Iraq and freedom is everywhere. If that's true why SHOULDN'T they ave weddings. How are the FREE if they have to watch what they do? Hmmmmmm.

ever think that terroist know we are lsitening and so they pretend they are holding a meeting at a house where ther is actually a wedding going on. And of course Bush is so stupid as to beleive it.

It's just as possible that everytime a Terrorist house gets blown up, they claim it was a wedding instead.

Fact of the matter is neither you nor I were there and can't possibly know what happened.

True, but 2 doctors were there ... They also are terrorists... Maybe part of a big anti-bush conspiration...

Like:

They wave arms at Apache choppers to get shot at, then cleanup team comes in and put the bodies in wedding dress and tux... Then send the bodies to the hospital....


But, BTW, weren't those the people you were so concerned about, the one you wanted to liberate from a dictator, the ones would wanted to protect from the " rape rooms". the ones that you wanted to embrace democracy ????

Or am I wrong...

These people are dead now.

USA RULES !!!!!!!

such imbeciles.... and don't miss the " imbecile in chief " tonight .... at least I will laugh a bit.

Yeah all arabs are terrorsts or should be assumed to be. Nice racism.

Indeed, 30 million people have been freed from one of the most horrendous and sadistic leaders this world has ever seen you dumb fucking idiot USA hater.

Fuck I'm so sick of you as clowns bitching all the time and bashing us.

If it wasn't for the United States this world would be total shit. At least try we our best to keep it as stabilized as possible.

So when do we invade Sudan, Iran, China, N Korea, Cuba etc? when is it our fucking job to free people from dictators? YOU are the HATER. READ the fucking constitution you COMMIE NAZI fuck. freedom of speech baby. Love it or LEAVE.

You need to say go Bush and his cronies not GO USA, not everyone in the US supports Bush or is efforts. Your doing to US citizens exactly what you claim we do to everyone else. You accuse us of labeling all citizens of certian countries terrorist but are stereotyping us all as War loving bomb tossing Bush Blowers, and we arent.

"This attack shows that there is no safe place in Fallujah, and the Americans are not differentiating between civilians and armed men," sobbed Mohammed Jawad, a neighbor whose house was damaged in the strike. He said his brother and six nephews were killed.

http://www.xposed.com/headline_news/54_ds_1074717.aspx
(toward bottom of article)

Show me where I said all Arab's are terrorists.

You can't because I didn't say that.

What I DID say is that it's entirely possible that when a terrorist location DOES get hit, they try to spin it as something else. This is the second time the millitary insists they hit a terrorist location while the other side says it was a wedding.

Cause large numbers of people attend weddings. Same as large groups of people attend terrorist gatherings. Very bad intelligence info I guess......... :(

I'm not a commie Nazi first off. None of those countries comes close to the things that were going on in Iraq.

You also have to consider the politics of each country and the viability, logistics, consequences and ramifications of each situation.

Clearly the countries you mentioned don't offer the opportunity Iraq did for change of regime.

If your country is so great maybe you guys should try leading for a change.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

this is actually the most sensable answer I have heard

True. Just that when the " Awe and Shock" bombing started ( remember that ), it was ecstasy here among the americans... :
- Kewl
- Blast the sand hahahahahahas
- Nuke it for a parking
- and so on...

I hope that enough americans will realize that the situation is not what G.W.Bush says ( heard of Powell lately ??? ) , that it is getting worse, that the world is NOT a safer place, and contrary to KRL belief, it is not more stable....

Just look at the price of your most beloved commodity : OIL....

Not stable at all....

So, please use " find and replace " to switch " Americans " to " Bush sheeps "...

:glugglug

Leading ... ??? same as INVADING ????

BTW, why do you need to lead ... can't you let people be ????

To lead, you need a leader, not a liar :2 cents:

Now that is sad, so much for the celebration

That cocksucker Saddam fucked our banks out of $120 Billion.

I'd like to see what you bashers would do if someone took $120 Bil from you and said GFY.

:BangBang:

Are you high ????

The USA fucking seized billions in bank accounts in the US ...

The Bush administration's war has removed the old dictator, but not his debts. Iraq will pay it all back over time........ Isn't there trillions of dollars worth of OIL over there?
:glugglug

Here is a link and article. Can you do the same for your measy 120 mil ????

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0318-11.htm

For all the 15 year olds here who know nothing except how to eat, shit and jerk off, this is not the first time that the terrorists have claimed that a "wedding party" has been hit, when in fact the actually destroyed target was a terrorist safehouse. They do this to turn gullible people against America and the free Iraqi forces.

And you dumb shitfabrains fall for it every time.



And here's some more info which you obviously don't know because you spend all your time jerking off to porn in your momma's basement and flattering the female members of GFY in the most cringingly embarrassing of ways - it is a cultural quirk of certain societies which place such importance on male dominance and macho behaviour to fire their guns in the air in celebration at events such as weddings. To do this in a warzone such as Fallujah would strike me as being just about the most idiotic thing a group of people could do - and they would qualify for a well-deserved Darwin award for taking themselves out of the genepool.

Ok you can now get back to jerking off then pissing in a bottle because you are too inconsequential to actually ever leave your rooms and get some experience of the world.

Good time to plan a wedding. In the Middle of a war. I think I would have waited.

Ironic

U.S. urges Putin to drop Iraq debt

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/eu....irq.uk.baker/

MOSCOW, Russia -- James Baker, U.S. President George W. Bush's envoy to Iraq, has arrived in Moscow in an effort to persuade Vladimir Putin to write off the $8 billion debt run up by Saddam Hussein.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

An enema with that ????

Here is in Afghanistan :. Probably fixed also... Not a trigger happy trailer park cowboy from Texas... LOL... you are clueless.

02 July 2002

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/...p?story=311135

American forces made their most devastating and deadly
mistake since launching their operation in Afghanistan
when they killed or wounded hundreds of guests
celebrating a wedding yesterday.

Reports were contradictory but the US forces
apparently launched the two-hour assault involving a
B-52 bomber and an AC-130 gunship after mistaking the
wedding guests' celebratory gunshots into the air
early yesterday morning as hostile fire.

Estimates put the number of casualties at more than
120 though one unconfirmed report said up to 250 had
been killed.

The Pentagon later admitted a bomb had missed its
target and claimed the bomber and the gunship launched
the attack after being the target of anti-aircraft
fire. This, however, is just the latest in a series of
incidents in Afghanistan in which civilians have been
killed by "friendly fire".

With details of the incident far from clear, the
Pentagon offered its condolences to the families of
those killed or wounded and promised a full inquiry. A
spokesman for US forces in Afghanistan, Colonel Roger
King, said: "Right now there are a lot of different
opinions as to what happened. We understand there were
some civilian casualties during the operation. We do
not yet know how many casualties."


Since you can't probably read:

http://www.rawa.org/s-child.jpg

talking about credible source in intelligence

surely, the Pentagon will not admit this fault but wait for a couple of years more
before the truth comes out in the open.

just what Rumsfield admitted days ago about the No WMD found in the US

Speaking from my war experience (65-66):

ALIVE --> Suspect
DEAD --> Confirmed

We didn't have an abundance of "wedding parties."

All arabs are terrorists..or hadn't you heard?

They are just killing the influential people for fun.

Please stop calling those fighting against the Coalition terrorists. T%hey are freedom fighters or resistance fighters. Fighting an invading army who terrorise them by using overwhelming military power to subdue them.

An invasion built on a lie, an invasion they did not ask for or want. Never forget it's there country and they are the ones fighting for it.

Funny how you can twist the truth with the use of one word.

So much for democracy and freedom.

The US says you need freeing so that's it we are going to free you. With or without your help.

When was the last time any opf those 20 million rose up against Saddam?

Completely agreed. Its all just one big clusterfuck, and we are seen as an occupying force.
If another country invaded the U.S. I'd fighting tooth and nail. Wonder if that'd make me a terrorist, too? *shrug*

Because they live there. It's not just a "hot spot", it's their home town.
People will still live their lives as best they can.

Many couples may wish to marry before one of them gets blown up; look at how many US troops marry before they are deployed... To many, of both cultures, the ceremony is important and you might not get another chance.

I think you will find the British thought Washington was also a terrorist.

The Nazis dealt with the Resistance Fighters in WW2 as terrorists and what were the Vietncong called when they were trying to throw out the US forces in the 60s?

Firing guns in the air in your own home at a wedding party is a tradition, maybe the US commanders should be thinking more.

So far we have statements and pictures of a weding and killed guests as proof for one side and a statement from the other side. Wonder what an impartial judge would make of such evidence?

The reality is the US no longer lead the free world. The US is on its own, nobody is following.

All of Europe is grateful to the US for

a) liberating it from Nazi Germany
b) protecting & eventually freeing it from communist hands

The US led the free world for decades throughout the cold war, the whole free world followed. Now... Bush & his clique of amateurish friends managed to isolate the US. Good luck guys you're alone doing what you're doing and you will need all the luck in the world.

True.

This is very true.

The United States should pull of Iraq now. The United States should not be concerned about either Korea or Iran. There is no need for the US to be concerned about Hong Kong, or the crap with Pakistan and India.

So we pull out. And here's what happens....

- South Korea invades North Korea after nearly fiftey years of fighting over who's right and who's wrong.
- Iran goes nuclear, and Isreal takes them out. Iran launches a nuke into Isreal and Isreal fires back. Glass parking lots spring up all over the middle east - and the world's oil supply is cut off.
- India and Pakistan, tired of fighting over Kashmir, decide that lobbing nukes at each other is perfectly acceptable. Dell computers looses all of it's customer support staff in the first wave of attacks.
- China decides to invade Hong Kong and restore it to the mainland there.

By this time WWIII has broken out. I'm going way out on a limb here.... But then Japan - having all of it's oil cut off because of what's going on in the middle east - attacks what's left of Russia, or perhaps invades Alaska. Germany decides to rearm itself, and the French who haven't showered since WWII start getting jumpy to they launch a pre-emptive strike at Germany.... England suffers from the nuclear fallout and starts basting away at France and Germany. All Europe is now at war, as is the middle east and Asia.

Meanwhile the US is gonna mind it's fucking business while the the governments of fifteen differnt countries fail because they are no longer being supported by the United States.

I'm not always proud of what the US does. But who else is gonna step up to the plate? The British Empire is gone, France is afraid of it's own shadow, Germany doesn't want to start shit, and Russia is just down and out right now.

None of our business. :2 cents:

If both Iran and Israel disappeared tomorrow, the worlds oil supply would not be too severly impacted. But that's not going to happen. Irans theocracy is ending thanks to a youth culture revolution (largely because of the internet) which may have already succeeded if not for the poor political strategy of this administration and the invasion of Iraq. Because of that, a swell of nationalism has stalled (or reversed) progress.


Mutually Assured Destruction is an effective deterrent. If it could keep the USA and Russia behaved, it can keep India and Pakistan behaved.

Yes, people are willing to die for a cause; but only if they believe they will ultimately win the conflict. In a nuclear conflict there can be no winners, no gains for either side. They're as human as any of us, and the same principles apply.

China already owns Hong Kong. Did you mean Taiwan? IMO this falls into the "none of our business" category. Sad for them, but strategically irrelevant to us.

Why? Japan would obviously lose any such conflict. It's inconcievable that they believe they could conquer either. And the motivations isn't really there either. They are a small island nation. They could power themselves with hydro, geothermal, wind power, or nuclear power. They already have electric cars and a great public transport system, and don't really need oil. They could adjust to an oilless system cheaper than they could wage a war.

Ok, well, (as you admitted) you're kinda just being silly here. The EU are now a collective cooperative interdependent block and they will not be attacking eachother. ever.

Unlikely, and even if so, any government that fails because the US stops propping it up is illegitimate anyway. Let the citizens of other nations govern themselves and make their own choices and the US will end up less animosity / fewer potential terrorist threats.


The premise is false. Noone has to 'step up to the plate', if that means dropping bombs. Stop playing world police and the world will stop regarding us as facist bully pigs.

Yeah... Again... The USA is doing a fucking great job there.

Fuck

Ask KRL for his opion!

Thats your fucking problem, thinking that you are the leaders of the world

This was great. Not saying I think all of it will happen but some of it made me laugh and I thank you for posting it :thumbsup

Everyone thinks that Isreal is some offensive powerhouse when in fact they are set up right now as a counter attacking (arguably defensive) powerhouse. They will only launch after being launched upon, I do not think they are a pre-emptive striker.

Weither you want to admit it and change because of it, a warzone is a warzone and you need to take precautions because of it. In the real world it does not really matter what you believe, there is what is and what isn't and also what you have control and power over and what you do not.

Here is another trip into logic....... The police have a suspect in an apartment building, you come out of another apartment building across the street and fire a gun into the air, what do you think happens? Are the police to be blamed? We can go on and on about how the US should not be there, but the fact of the matter is, they are, and since they have all the bombs, tanks and planes (in other words power) I think the best thing to do is keep your head down and make sure you do nothing that will draw attention to yourself. Anyone who says that in a warzone they are going to give a moments thought to weither a person firing a gun who is not dressed in a uniform that says "good guy" and looks exactly like the bad guys before pulling the trigger is being unrealistic. If I was over there I would be wearing a fucking shirt that said "civilian" and be walking around with my hands empty and up everywhere I go. That is just common sense.

yeah right...sure dream on :1orglaugh