AaronM
 

Why did you close that thread?

Answer my question? What have we done to stabb you in the back? or anybody for that matter?

I don't understand why you are publicly attacking us. We don't do business with you.

Joe asked me to help out at this playboy/spice tv tryouts. so I did.

I think you anger is mis-directed.

Only Lensmen knows why he used Joe instead of you.

why don't you ask him?

Just so you know it's LensmAn!!! :winkwink:

I'm pretty sure he mentioned some of the "backstabbing" items in that thread...like the % for putting you in touch with LS or somethin

that's not verified

Thanks loryn. my bad. :thumbsup

I thought he likes to be called Big Lens?

Yeah there's alot of bullshit flying out of that guys mouth.

I recall nasty D and I walking up to Rochard in vegas and introducing ourselves.

PLEASE CONTINUE THIS IS FASCINATING.:glugglug

:1orglaugh

where is the original thread ? been out of town ........

I was reading the thread. It was interesting. In my opinion closed threads are pretty lame.

Link for JFK
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=368243

Hmmmm...Interesting....


[15:56] J-Reel: I agree you did mention us to LS and LS to us, which would explain why rochard said he had heard of reel18 when we introduced. However I did not know there was a deal, and we didn't know what your "plans" were
[15:57] J-Reel: alright no sense in hashing it out. Later
[16:04] AaronM: Yeah...Cause I just happened to mention LS to you as an option at the same time that I mentioned PIBCash to you as an option but I expected nothing for the LS deal.

Whatever.

You fucked me out of a small percentage of basically nothing. I'm out a few bucks that I would have spent on people like you for dinner/drinks/whatever....No big deal there.....Just don't expect me to speak highly of your business practices.

Oh..and BTW......I never asked Joesho, why should I ask Lensman? You're the only person bringing this up.

BUT...To answer your question:

Because I already know everything that went down. I knew it before the event even happened. That's why I stayed away from it even after I was told that I should be there.

Ok you are going to have to excuse me because I just got back from a root canal and I am a little out of it, but I can't help but say my piece, since you brought this shit to the boards before contacting us.

AM things went sour after vegas for whatever reason, but WE struck the deal with LS all by ourselves, and I don't remember LS being an option out of your mouth. You are really digging here.

Did you introduce us to him? No

We hung out with Steve at his very sweet 420 party and not til months later did we sign with LS. and we never heard back from you on anything. Now almost two years later you are wanting percentages.

The only reason business with PIB never materialized is because WE chose to go with LS, rather than taking your advice. My memory has nothing but negative coments about Steve and his business, which couldn't be farther from the truth. We made the right choice for us, not you.

You are not even on our radar, so relax and chill.

I'm not to concern about you shit talking us Aaron. Reasonable people will consider the source and form their own opinions.


True... you did mention PIB and LS to us. You said you would introduce us to Rodney in Vegas, but you went into cock blocking mode. (thank god)
I am completly baffled you think we back stabbed you by signing with LS. You didn't return any phone calls during Internext or ICQ's after Internext and when I told you we signed with LS you did not say congratulations, You said "I'm sorry" then went into LS bashing.


I just don't see how you could take it as sneaky or under-handed. Go ahead and believe whatever you want to believe. I can see there's no reasoning with you.

Hey Tweedle Dee and Dweedle Dumb...Can you two get your stories to match please?

One says "The only reason business with PIB never materialized is because WE chose to go with LS, rather than taking your advice." Then the other says "said you would introduce us to Rodney in Vegas, but you went into cock blocking mode."

So...which is it? Did I cock block or did you make the decision on your own?

Oh yeah...It's neither.


"Now almost two years later you are wanting percentages."

Try comprehending what you are reading. I am not asking for a percentage at this point. I am pointing out that the two of you decided to slide me out of the equation.

"I'm not to concern about you shit talking us Aaron."

Well now...That surely explains the reason for you starting this thread then doesn't it? Once again....A lie from you.

"Answer my question? What have we done to stabb you in the back? or anybody for that matter?"

Maybe it's just me but that appears as if you care.

Now.....One of you wants to suggest that I was making negative comments about Steve and his business while the other one acknowledges that in fact, I did plant the seeds for the two companies to get together?.Again?Which was it?

Pull your collective heads out of each others asses and see the light.

You are both full of shit.....The least you can do is get your bogus stories to match.

Ah and BTW....Rodney never showed up to Vegas. Kindly explain how I cock blocked you from meeting somebody who was never even there.

Go on now...Post some more dumb shit for me to bitch slap you upside the head with.

Aaron... you started a thread a called us back stabbers. I wanted to know why you called us out but you locked the thread. So I decided to defend myself and our business. I had know idea you have all this spite about shit that happened 3 years ago.

We wanted to talk to both parties but it became apparent you did not want us to talk with PIB.

nice spin job... Keep trying, it is the political season afterall

Yeah... you told us on the last day when I ran into you on the show floor.

3 years ago huh? Well..Not quite but whatever. What matters is that I remember what you did.

As for the PIB thing. Rodney was not interested in talking to you because you would not turn the domain over to him. I can;t say that I blame you for taking that stance...Smnart move actually....But let's not try to spin this into something that blames me.

Oh, so I was not cock blocking after all. Thanks for the clarification. :thumbsup

Any more flip flops you want to add to your story?

While I am unsure of anything to do with LS in this situation, I am ALL too familiar with this situation as it relates to PIBCash... I distinctly remember Aaron bringing this to Rodney's attention and talking and talking this up. It was RODNEY who said no on this, or that's what he told ME when he called me talking to me about it. He seemed to have had his mind made up before he called me and just wanted to basically run it thru another set of ears first before making it final...... that's as far as I know about THAT!!!


NOW....... as for Cockblocking in relation to Rodney meeting with you in Vegas? That couldn't be further from the truth, because Rodney didn't even go to Vegas that year, in fact, I was sitting in my chair, getting ready to walk out the door when my phone rang, saying we wouldn't be going, so Rodney Connor was never even AT that show to be cockblocked from..... or however that should be said. LOL

I WILL say that I know Aaron came to us with extremely high praise about the potential of this site, I had a look at it, and I too, gave my suggestion that he should run after it if he could get it.....

As I said, I know nothing about any relation to LS on this one, but I do know the relation when it pertained to PIB and Aaron spoke extremely high of your site then.

AMEN to that one, this is exactly part of why mine were never turned over into anyone else's names... while I might trust someone, I don't trust ANYONE 100% and there's no way I would have turned them over to put in his name either.... I was all but ordered to and I refused each and everytime, I was told I had to host them on his servers.... I refused. So on THAT note, you were extremely wise, never give up the power you have, regardless of how small a task it appears to be at the time..... boy, I learned this one the hard way. :)

Bla Bla Bla....its ok to disagree. Even if you did SUGGEST, and I'm not saying you did, but for argument sakes, do you know how crazy that sounds that you want a percentage of our sales from our hard work from a mere suggestion. You did nothing to facilitate anything and you are way off base.

If you suggested a 3rd party biller or a cash program for our traffic would you want a percentage of that too? WTF

Why all the hate in you Aaron, if you have problems with how things went down then why wait for now to discuss it? and why bring this shit to the boards. Oh yeah you live your life through GFY

I admit it, I don't like you. I tried very hard to give you the benefit of the doubt and even in Phoenix I was hoping we were all good, but it looks like you can not be happy either way, so fuck it!

As far as business history with PIB who the fuck cares we never got past a conference call. Here are some facts:

Your exact words @ the Dorm Angels party when Jace told you the LS news, was Sorry to hear that! It was that cold. You warned us how he handeled Nna and how crazy we were to put our faith in the Lightspeed Cash Machine.

And now you want a percentage of our business? Well it seems to me that the Seattle party would of been a great opportunity to call us out in person on how you orchestrated the deal and your percentage, rather than waiting until now. Why didn't you mention anything then when you were bashing our decision?

Why am I even explaing my position to a Troll like you? You should look at yourself more rather than trying to blame your inner misery on others? I guess there is reason you work alone.

Damn. THis is getting a bit heated..

Hate to see it happen since I consider all you guys family and good people in my book.

Aaron, J-Reel, Nasty Negro D all good people in my book.

Sucks that we arent one happy family like before but what can I do..

Ive become good friends with J-Reel and NastyD in the past few months since my bro Voodo has moved into town. Really find them as good people. And Aaron and I go way back. He's one of the OG's of the family.

Kinda sucks we all live in the same town and we cant get along and have professional or at least friendly social gatherings.

Really sucks that somewhere along the way these two groups rubbed eachother the wrong way and forever have distanced themselves from any potential patching up and moving on. And it only seems to be getting worse.

There are too few webmasters in our area as it is. And the ones that are here just dont seem to get along..

Either way you are all family in my book, and hopefully someday we can put this shit all behind us and go out for beers together as friends or a family as you guys once were.

Moral of the story is, make sure your cell phone is off and not dialing unknowingly the person you are talking about.. Because if that person happens to be AaronM, shit's gunna hit the fan and every little thing will never be forgotten.

WIth that said I say end this. No one looks good here bashing one another. Aaron is all worked up, Reelizim is all riled up defending themselves from the outlash and everyone needs to take a break and chill.

THis feud is a personal one and not a business matter and should be handled in private.. I know the realizm guys are above this, and I know Aaron is probably tired of wasting any more energy on this wishing he hadnt started this to begin with..

Again, before GFY sheep take sides as they like to do with drama bullshit, there is no good or bad person here. Both groups here are good people. Real and "reel" good people.. This is just a personal bitch match.

Just wanted to say that before things got out of hand which seems to be the direction this is going.

Amen :thumbsup

You should run for President.


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Boneprone 2004

Well done Boneprone :thumbsup

Awesome. Come on guys...This doesn't need to be here, call one another or something.

Have we met in the past?

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