Sites that require surfers name and email before pricing is revealed...
 

Sites that require surfers name and email before pricing is revealed drive away some conversions.

If the price is to high, they have the email addy. Impression is, there is gonna be some spam.

If the price is not listed first, it must be over the top high.

Comments?

WTF - bump 1 time

What is your question exactly. I think most people agree with your statement.

I have never seen such a site....


:helpme

A link would be good.

Have a few sponsors doing this. Wish they wouldn't. Doesn't seem to be a topic on everybodys mine.


If you don't like the sponsor, there are a ton of others.

Thought maybe someone would come up with a solid reason for it. Gee like a solid reason for 10 exit pages off the join page too.

Here's one.

Did I miss the pricing????

A TCG site. Not to pick on them in particular.

Normal pricing but of course legal mailings to those that might not sign up.

Smart move for PPS programs, bad for affiliates. What else is new?

They're making far more on your traffic than the 35$/signup you get for it. I bet 1/10 enters their email addy.

i bet an extremely large percentage of that 1/10 enters a fake address too.

I believe the purpose is to cut down the amount of information that is on the actual credit card form. It is also a good method to determine how many declines the processor is actually giving. If you have 500 people fill out the form and only 350 actually process, this could mean your decline ratio is WAY too high, your forms are broken, or they simply changed their mind.

It is not just about spam.... there are actually some honest programs out there believe it or not.

Big surprise. I have to push other sponsors. A ton of webmasters have them in their sig too.

There's a difference between legal mailings and untarget mass mailings.

Don't most processors provide decline stats?

How else should they pay you 35$ per trial?!Think about that...

TCG is quality and their sites too.

please

You should click on your sig one of these days...

I think the above statement is true. Also even if they aren't mailed the thing is once they've entered in their info they'll probably complete the next form anyway. Why not collect their name and e-mail. If they are going to buy, they're going to buy. They're not going to "Hmmm maybe I should buy this" then they see a $29-39 charge and change their mind. They would have bought anyway.

Yes, and mailing based on information harvested through the join forms is not legal mailings.

Please what?

Yes and they are very inaccurate...

Do you ever think in your wildest thoughts that maybe a processors might shave?

If you watched the stats close, they would get caught, so prolly not????

Yes, it has crossed my mind more than once...

I can think of ways to do it. Don't know if I want to think about it too much right now. It will be bad enough tonight watching the debates.

Whatever gave you that idea?

When you see thousands of hits with a good click through to the join and nothing, makes you go ahmmmm. Esp when another sponsor you have earns ya $.15 a click.

Harvesting?

Sponsors cover their asses before they do anything, I never signed up to a paysite through a form like that so I don't know what exactly happens after that but I'm sure they make it legal opt-in mailings, otherwise - way too risky.

If a sponsor doesn't work for you after a significant amount of traffic send stop promoting it and concentrate on the ones that work for you.

Waiting for better conversions is not a good business practice.:2 cents:

CCBill does (system errors, cookie loss, blah whatever) and those who promote CCBill sponsors life with it.The sponsor always gets his money, you as an affiliate might loose up to 40%, but that's life.

That, and

- uncredited consoles
- country redirects
- emails collectors on the tour
- traffic leaking links to "video shops" at the bottom
- prechecked cross sales
- "free access to blabla.COM included (type it in already, stupid)" on the join page
- free "branding" of huge ass URLs on banners...

all this amounts to a healthy share of "value per surfer" taken away from you without pay

They simply do what they get away with

There are only few sponsors that have none of the above

All you can do is to look at your bottomline and act accordingly