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Rick Latona 09-21-2004 11:25 AM

I'm hearing bad things about I-Bill through the grapevine.
 
I'm hearing bad things about I-Bill through the grapevine. Anyone else?

GonZo 09-21-2004 11:27 AM

Visa has left the building!!!

Rick Latona 09-21-2004 11:28 AM

I can neither confirm nor deny the rumors so I don't want to state them hear and start shit. I was just wondering if anyone else has heard bad news today.

Krille 09-21-2004 11:28 AM

Yeah, I heard it as well, saw a thread about it at http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...adid=359766&s=

crockett 09-21-2004 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona
I'm hearing bad things about I-Bill through the grapevine. Anyone else?
lol well even if they didn't before, they are now.. :1orglaugh

Rick btw I was wondering if you saw that e-mail I sent you a week or two ago. had some info on your galleries you should check out.

Tom_PMs 09-21-2004 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Krille
Yeah, I heard it as well, saw a thread about it at http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...adid=359766&s=
lol, you got me stuck in an endless loop...

Rick Latona 09-21-2004 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by crockett
lol well even if they didn't before, they are now.. :1orglaugh

Rick btw I was wondering if you saw that e-mail I sent you a week or two ago. had some info on your galleries you should check out.

No actually. rick at dollars.com. Please resend.

stev0 09-21-2004 11:34 AM

I heard it switched ownership and was doing better? maybe i'm out of the loop.

Tipsy 09-21-2004 11:35 AM

Is this a good time to grab a spot for a stonking sig? :Graucho

Not holding my breath about it but'll be intersting to see if anything does popup.

Rick Latona 09-21-2004 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by stev0
I heard it switched ownership and was doing better? maybe i'm out of the loop.
I think you may be.

crockett 09-21-2004 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona
No actually. rick at dollars.com. Please resend.
ok it's resent

BigWebRev 09-21-2004 11:45 AM

how do rumors get started.......

SteveLightspeed 09-21-2004 11:45 AM

Hey Rick, its time for another Panama adventure bro. Lets hook it up!

Steve Lightspeed

Rich 09-21-2004 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom_PM
lol, you got me stuck in an endless loop...
lol

MattO 09-21-2004 11:46 AM

My inside sources tell me things are getting a little better for them today, compared to over the last week.

WiredGuy 09-21-2004 11:49 AM

I heard a rumour as well about them today. I hope its not true.
WG

.:St Ides:. 09-21-2004 11:51 AM

I also heard a rumor... Makes you wonder, time to look into someone a lil more inside

Dugmor 09-21-2004 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed
Hey Rick, its time for another Panama adventure bro. Lets hook it up!

Steve Lightspeed

Plane ticket bought....... I will set up the camp and do some scouting !

crockett 09-21-2004 11:57 AM

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...adid=359780&s=

maybe this could be it?

SmokeyTheBear 09-21-2004 11:59 AM

only if by bad things you mean teaming up with the industry leader in the future of online billing :)

DUOCASH.COM

Manowar 09-21-2004 12:02 PM

Havent heard anything about this yet

Rick Latona 09-21-2004 12:03 PM

I just had a good conversation with someone from over there. I'm glad I didn't post the rumor. I think all is well.

MetaformX 09-21-2004 12:17 PM

I hope all is well...I am just about to sign up with them. :)

Screaming 09-21-2004 12:19 PM

damn man had me scared for a min!

mary34d 09-21-2004 12:19 PM

a little bird told me something.

txl 09-21-2004 12:30 PM

The rumour is ibill "lost" their merchant account.

first off its not true they didn't lose it. First data has stated months ago it was leaving the processing business for adult/high risk. They dropped card services international right away and ibill has until end of september to find alternative means.

They've already found alternative means to process as have the rest of the other big 3. I'm sure you can expect an announcement on this from them anyday now as the rumours keep flying.

GonZo 09-21-2004 12:40 PM

Where did I put my copy of that Spin Doctors album?

fris 09-21-2004 12:42 PM

a little bird tole me that mary has nice tits

Johny Traffic 09-21-2004 12:42 PM

hope there ok, maybe an announcement from them wouldnt hurt?

SmokeyTheBear 09-21-2004 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Johny Traffic
hope there ok, maybe an announcement from them wouldnt hurt?
they did...

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...adid=359776&s=

nicchick 09-21-2004 01:12 PM

I had a check due from them on Aug.22nd-
It never showed up. I e-mailed them - No reply
Same deal on Sept. 8th
No check. I e-mailed them- No reply.
WTF ???
Their customer service doesn't suck - it's non-existent.

Shap 09-21-2004 01:20 PM

I wouldn't put too much weight on rumours that are being started by ibill's competition.

tony286 09-21-2004 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nicchick
I had a check due from them on Aug.22nd-
It never showed up. I e-mailed them - No reply
Same deal on Sept. 8th
No check. I e-mailed them- No reply.
WTF ???
Their customer service doesn't suck - it's non-existent.

Why dont you pick up a phone and call them ?

AaronM 09-21-2004 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona
I can neither confirm nor deny the rumors so I don't want to state them hear and start shit. I was just wondering if anyone else has heard bad news today.

Yep...But the last time I posted a similar thread....I got bashed so I decided to keep it to myself this time. :glugglug

WiredGuy 09-21-2004 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM
Yep...But the last time I posted a similar thread....I got bashed so I decided to keep it to myself this time. :glugglug
:winkwink:

Brujah 09-21-2004 01:23 PM

ooooh i bet you wonder how I knew..
http://hem.passagen.se/ozzyfan/lidin...lag/russin.jpg

Brad Mitchell 09-21-2004 01:26 PM

Just placed my market order to sell my PHSL shares.

:BangBang:


Brad

Rick Latona 09-21-2004 01:35 PM

I'm sure they have a back up plan. And I'm even more sure that I'm going to be slammed for posting this.

Evidence 1

evidence 2

24. This restraint has particular urgency in light of devastating effect that First Data?s actions are likely to have on iBill?s business. Indeed, without such an order iBill will likely lose its business in the next few days. Thus, iBill will be irreparably harmed unless the Court orders a temporary restraining order.

XPays 09-21-2004 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona
I'm sure they have a back up plan. And I'm even more sure that I'm going to be slammed for posting this.

Evidence 1

evidence 2

24. This restraint has particular urgency in light of devastating effect that First Data?s actions are likely to have on iBill?s business. Indeed, without such an order iBill will likely lose its business in the next few days. Thus, iBill will be irreparably harmed unless the Court orders a temporary restraining order.

were those documents publicly available? how did you acquire them?

XPays 09-21-2004 01:47 PM

evidence2 looks public- but was evidence 1 also public?

XPays 09-21-2004 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona
I'm hearing bad things about I-Bill through the grapevine. Anyone else?
it looks more like the bad things are about first data

Rick Latona 09-21-2004 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XPays
it looks more like the bad things are about first data
I hope you are right. From the looks of it, First Data deserves some heat.

WiredGuy 09-21-2004 02:02 PM

Based on the first document you linked to, I'm quite interested in knowing if ccBill and Paycom have already found alternatives or if they're trying to get a TRO on First Data as well.

WG

BossDVDs 09-21-2004 02:03 PM

Here's the latest .. IBill's CEO just told First Data's CEO:

"You wanna waste my time? Okay. I call my lawyer. He's the best lawyer in Miami. He's such a good lawyer, that by tomorrow morning, you gonna be working in Alaska. So dress warm."




:1orglaugh

MickeyG 09-21-2004 02:03 PM

So the documents say the agreement expired on Sept 15th, but today is the 20th and they're still processing transactions. Did they get in injunction? How are they still processing?

Rick Latona 09-21-2004 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
Based on the first document you linked to, I'm quite interested in knowing if ccBill and Paycom have already found alternatives or if they're trying to get a TRO on First Data as well.

WG

Do they also use First Data?

WiredGuy 09-21-2004 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona
Do they also use First Data?
There was only a small handful of providers for high risk and adult. I'm not sure, hence why I'd like to know if the other IPSP's are using First Data for their acquiring banks or alternatives.

WG

CamJack 09-21-2004 02:06 PM

Ibill has been a little choppy but our tech guys have been working very closely with them over the past week and everything will be fine. Our cascading billing checks every 5 minutes and flips to CCBILL when needed. So our business isn't hurt at all right now.

As frustrating as times like these are, jumping to conclusions and spreading false rumors is not only unethical, but at times illegal.

Chris Mallick 09-21-2004 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona
Do they also use First Data?
Paycom does not process any transactions through or with First Data or First Financial Bank. We moved several months ago as we, along with all processors and Merchants were told they were getting out of Adult.

Paycom / EPOCH?s banking is stronger now than ever.

Once again, everyone should have a back up; anything can happen.

C

WiredGuy 09-21-2004 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chris Mallick
Paycom does not process any transactions through or with First Data or First Financial Bank. We moved several months ago as we, along with all processors and Merchants were told they were getting out of Adult.

Paycom / EPOCH?s banking is stronger now than ever.

Once again, everyone should have a back up; anything can happen.

C

Good stuff Chris :thumbsup
WG


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