SERIOUS question for Kerry Supporters
 

Ok let's try to have a discussion here, and please, answer my question, don't dodge and say "GEORGE W BUSH IS EVIL", please.

All I want to know is...Since all of you in here or adamantly opposed to all war, including the Iraq war, and you clearly want us out of there immediately. Yet you, support Kerry?
Tell me, do you actually know anything about Kerry? If you do, you would know that over and over he said he would still have launched this war, knowing what we know now. So, since that is totally opposite of what you all feel, how can you support Kerry, who has always vowed to increase troop numbers in Iraq to finish the job, a job that you dont want finished? Please explain im really really confused

Well tell me. If you oppose war. And you dont want to throw your vote away.

Who DO you vote for?

They both are pro-war. But Kerry is the lesser idiot of the two

And you base this on.....?

No, I'm sorry you can't claim that the U.S. is evil and we are waging an illegal war, and Bush is to blame. And then go and BLINDLY support a guy who says we need more U.S. military in a country you dont want invaded... Which means, more war in Iraq if Kerry is elected? So far your saying it doesn't matter,. just as long as Bush gets out? :1orglaugh BUT YOU HATE THE WAR! wtf how does that make sense?

Oh come on. Have you paid attention to Bush's speeches. And not just the ones in F.9/11

Its okay to fuck up once, but that many times. It just shows that your IQ isnt THAT high.

They are both idiots, I agree, and they both are worse, they are in politics.

That makes them both liars.

Fucking retard.

I support the war. Where have i said once in any of my posts that i am against it.

My views =
Kerry and bush have same views on war.
There is no one that i can vote for that will end the war, but bush has proven that he cant lead a country so i take kerry

lol, i dont even know if I should respond to this childish comment... No personal attacks in here, if you guys are so anti-war, I'm asking you to JUSTIFY voting for Kerry who claims we need to stay in this "Illegal" war and increase troop strength... Now i want some fucking answers, not some dodging remarks like "Bush is stupid", see thats why nobody takes you hippies seriously, you don't explain yourself, you just launch personal attacks.

Well if you support the war, then STFU, I started this thread to get some answers on why everyone in here is voting for Kerry

Kerry is a proven warior.


you want to know why the US lost Vietnam?

they had the planes and bombs and the soldiers to wipe that island into nothingness.

yet they didnt use them.

If Kerry were to fight a war you can bet your ass there would be far less american casualities. As there would be many more soldiers there. I feel that Kerry would be involved tactially, and offering options to his generals, instead of being told what to wear each morning like bush.

Bush claims he is a wartime president, it is something he seems proud of...i bet he knows nothing of what is happening day to day there save for a report he reads over coffee in the morning.


the guy is a total idiot..proof here
http://www.littlemidgets.com/detail....=2&content=435

Just a quick :2 cents: What makes you think it's just about war? A lot of people on this board are probably as worried, if not more so, on the election's affect on their business. Most seem to feel that Kerry is far less anti-porn than Bush.

I believe more than one person has already answered that. You keep babbling about war as if that were the only issue to base a vote on. Don't be so dense. Unless you really are a brainless party-line lemming, you will never agree 100% with any candidate so you vote for the one who comes closest to sharing your views and vision. So what if I am opposed to the war and Kerry says he supports it? If the other 90% of Kerry's platform planks match up with my ideals, he is going to get my vote over a candidate who opposes the war but disagrees with me on every single other issue.

Finally, it really doesn't matter how important any single issue is to you. If both candidates have basically the same stance on issue "X" then you really can't use issue "X" to make your decision unless you plan to vote for a third-party candidate.

SpaceAce

The fact that people are opposed to the war so that they

is a pretty big leap of logic. I don't think we should have gone, but have enough damn sense that we have to do the job and do it right. We can't just leave. We broke it, we have to fix it(paraphrased from a quote attributed to Colin Powell).

The rest of the post falls into the same vein with assumptions and inferences and can be responded to in the same fashion.

Kerry realizes what has to be done to get out of mess that Bush and co. have created.

Kerry is clueless compared to the generals running the ground troops. Your in la la land if you think otherwise.

exactly..itis actually illegal for you guys to leave....itis akin to declaring war on the world..no joke

which is what the UN dude said last week..but instead of reporting it...all the news channels just kept reporting that he said it..no more info..i wish cnn would let everyone know that fact...oh btw..we are basically at war with the world if we leave iraq


thanks bush

Ok and I've gone over this issue before, most of us are growing to this date since Bush has been in office... I know no one, that has been affected in any negative ways by the Bush administrations policies or lack there of on online porn, do you?

ANYONE out there thats been affected by Bush administrations porn policies???! HELLO??? (i think i hear my echo)


Nope, looks like we're all good, so tell me again, how is not JUST about the Iraq war?

Ass opposed to a HORSES ASS???:1orglaugh

Man, you know something I don't! Can you share Kerry's magical solutions with us? Please tell us what the Captain's plans!

facts!

look at what is going on... Mission accomplished??/ My ass... You got Saddam, that's it... And so what?

Is that english

Fuck your stupid...

When something is broken, even if you warned the person not to handle it, you still have to deal with the fact it is broken, and try to fix it the best way possible... The one that broke it is the idiot, aside from you.

(I´m not american).

I have never heard Kerry say that he supports the war. He have voted to give Bush the authority to go to war (authority being the keyword here) so Bush could use that as leverage in the UN and against Saddam. He never wanted an actual war, and I don´t believe that he wants one now, but he didn´t start it, and he may be the one who will have to finish it, which is why he wants to beef up the troops in Iraq - To end the "war" not to prolong it...
BTW - I´m for getting Saddam out of Iraq, but the way it was done - horrible!!!!!!!!!!


And seriously, does anyone think that Bush is doing a good job ?
Seriously ??????

I don´t know if Kerry will be better, but Bush have failed utterly, so please move him asíde and let Kerry have a go. He CAN´T be worse than Bush.

But the war is not the only issue. Again and again, I see people on this board failing to comprehend that if Bush gets another 4 years, a/s/h/c/ro/f/t will also get another 4 years. Does any of the bush supports (on GFY) realize what that means !!!!!

Also, look at the economy - Need I say more about that. I know that the someone will argue that the president doesn´t really have any influence on the economy, but that´s not true. Only foxnews reports something like that, anyone with any economic education knows that president have plenty of options when it comes to the economy, just look at the things Clinton did !!!

I could go on and on... I know someone will come in here and tell that I´m a moron and that I should STFU because I´m not american, but I would trade my national vote (in my country) with one for the american presidential election in a heartbeat and I wouldn´t vote for Bush...

You're serious aren't you? Good grief what a fucking idiot :1orglaugh

its web talk...if you cant understand it. i feel for you , you are after all just a product of the american schooling system ;)



seriously though, you must have a different agenda then the rest of the world to be supporting bush...id like to see your reasons for backing him.

you stated you wanted a discussion..dont pull out a lame ad hominen attack now...you had some credibility with me to begin with

GFY

I am voting for kerry and you got my opinion. Why is it when you disagree you tell me to shut up.

Moron

Quick on the uptake eh?

I base it on this:
"I believe God speaks through me."

"God told me to strike Al Qaeda and I struck, and then he instructed me to strike Saddam, which I did."

Please explain to me that this is a SANE man.

Your basic supposition went on what I said. He won't leave immediately, we are there for a while, etc. Quit trying to be witty, it isn't working.

Man if I had known all you were going to say is "Bush is an idiot." gawd, Didn't you read my 1st post? No cheap shots, no question dodging, only answers...It seems everyone has been dodging the obvious issue, so I'll address it once more...


If all of you in here are so opposed to the EVIL U.S. and its war machine, then how can you honestly support the other candidate who has publicly said many o' times that he would increase troop strength, (which,for you war hippies , yes this means more dead iraqi children pics for you to post on here) and has vowed to win this war... How can you be so anti-war and support a guy who wants to finish this job, again, a job that YOU dont want finished. (98% of you in here anyways)

clintons false glass bottom economy kicked ass :uhoh

For me, it's about trust. It's that simple...I don't trust Bush's motives. I don't have a reasonable amount of faith in the president of my nation to do what is best for the people he is leading, when it comes to war, OR any other issue.

Read the post !!!

Now I repeat : FUCK YOUR STUPID !!!!

and BTW, I said the one that broke it is an idiot... So why do you say I said Bush is an idiot ????

Did you completely miss the posts made by me and several other people? The question has been answered and you have been the one dancing. If you have any questions about what has been previously stated, feel free to ask and I will do my best to accomodate.

You would trade your national vote just to vote against Bush in America? Ahh thats so cute of you, omg thank you! Oh wait, thats right, YOUR NOT AMERICAN YOU EUROPEAN SLEAZEBAG COCKSUCKER Keep masturbating to pics of my country, yours will never be as great :1orglaugh

http://www.fortunecity.com/lavendar/.../delusions.jpg

Dont know what that means, but the economy was a lot better during the Clinton years, and YES he should get credit for that...

I have 3000 reasons to support Bush and it only took minutes for those reasons to be clear. Maybe, when Osama reaches Torontos skyscrapers, destroys your peoples lives, and kills your loved ones, you will be enthusiastic about killing muslim extremeists, like Americans are.

What was that about cheap shots?:helpme

Can you link me to those qutoes? Just curious when Bush said that.....


can we say...

CHEAP SHOT?

Hey, I think I missed the newsflash on that...did Iraqis plan 9/11? Last I heard it was Bin Ladin, who is Saudi Arabian.

Obviously you dont know what it means, ANY president following clinton was gonna have a rough time, without 9/11 to boot. Go dig up some financials on that time period and also the 4 years before when Sr. was pres and you will see how clinton was setup with prime financial times and what he did or lack thereof and see why it was gonna collapse sooner or later.

This says all I need to know about you. Thank you, I will try not to reply to this thread again.

expect a much larger attack if bush is "elected" into power again...also expect almost all the worlds billionaires to move all their money out of your reserves.

If the US had been attacked under Gore..he would have followed the same path...Bush isnt needed..he is an idiot and a liability to the us people.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Osama HATES american, and he seems to know his geography...

Live in fear, idiotic cocksucker... and lube up well, you will need it...

i RESULT to cheap shots when my question, which is the same fucking question that I posted 1st, and 2nd and 3rd time, doesn't get answered...Instead gets dodged, get cheap shots..so ill throw one, hell...

damn euro cocksuckers get my blood boilin' :winkwink:

Ain't blood, just diahrea running in your bowels that you call veins.:321GFY

Award goes to, ding ding ding, Another idiot in Toronto who knows nothing of the American people and their government!

http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Aug04/Kurth0824.htm
And, regarding your response about cheap shots, I HAVE answered your question, and so have several others, and you have responded with the exact attitude you are objecting to. If you have no respect for a differing opinion, then why ask for one? And if you do respect it, why not stop behaving like you don't?

Bush is evil

Are you talking about yourself? :1orglaugh