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directfiesta 09-16-2004 06:21 PM

FUCK UP : Evidence Found From Iraqi Killed in Prison
 
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SAN DIEGO - Missing medical evidence taken from the body of an Iraqi man beaten by Marine prison guards resurfaced this week, a defense attorney for an officer charged in connection with the man's death said Thursday. For months, the military had insisted the evidence was lost.

An Army medical examiner found the larynx of Nagem Hatab in a freezer in Germany, said Keith Higgins, a civilian defense attorney. The examiner, Col. Kathleen Ingwersen, conducted Hatab's autopsy in Iraq and concluded he died from a broken bone in his neck.

Higgins represents Marine Maj. Clarke Paulus, who ran the jail at the prison camp and is accused of ordering one of his men to drag Hatab by his neck after the Iraqi suffered a severe bout of diarrhea and collapsed while in custody.

Paulus, 35, faces up to 4 1/2 years in prison if convicted of aggravated assault, dereliction of duty and maltreatment of prisoners. Court-martial is scheduled to begin in November at Camp Pendleton, the Marine base north of San Diego.

Last week, a military judge delayed the start of the court-martial because of the missing evidence and ordered prosecutors to redouble their efforts to find the items. The judge, Col. Robert Chester, threatened "some extreme measures" to correct what he viewed as serious problems interfering the case.

Higgins said it was "disheartening and extremely troubling" that military doctors would act so carelessly with evidence that he deemed crucial to clearing his client's name.

Higgins also said an Army criminal investigator found a rib cage that may belong to Hatab in a refrigerator at the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology in Washington, D.C. Ingwersen's autopsy found that Hatab had six broken ribs. Results from a DNA test to determine whether the ribs were from Hatab's body are expected Friday, Higgins said.

Christopher Kelly, a spokesman for the institute, said he was unaware of the specifics of the case and could not comment.

Marine guards have testified Hatab was targeted for rough treatment because they believed he had a role in the ambush of a U.S. Army convoy that killed 11 soldiers and led to the capture of Pfc. Jessica Lynch and others.

The missing bones are just one of several errors in the investigation that became known at a hearing last week. Hatab's organs, removed during the autopsy, were destroyed when they were left for hours in the blazing heat on an Iraqi airstrip.

Marine Sgt. Gary Pittman was convicted earlier this month of dereliction of duty and abuse of prisoners at the prison camp, but was cleared of assaulting Hatab. Pittman was sentenced to 60 days of hard labor and demoted to private.

Saddam was sooooo baddddddd ....

http://www.twincities.com/mld/twinci...ws/9683224.htm

The Truth Hurts 09-16-2004 06:26 PM

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An estimated 300,000 Iraqi citizens have vanished without a trace, many presumed dead. The U.N. Commission on Human Rights condemned the Iraqi regime in 2001 for "widespread, systematic torture and the maintaining of decrees prescribing cruel and inhuman punishment as a penalty for offenses." Torture methods have included hanging, beating, rape and burning alive.
Naah... You're right... Saddam was a saint.

tony286 09-16-2004 06:30 PM

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Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
Naah... You're right... Saddam was a saint.
We were supposed to be better remember the good guys.

tical 09-16-2004 06:34 PM

shut up

doober 09-16-2004 06:35 PM

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Originally posted by tony404
We were supposed to be better remember the good guys.
Yes the good guys, no republican could understand that term anyways since they are all so busy scrambling for ways to make their own bullshit make sense

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-16-2004 06:44 PM

Maybe the dudes organs ended up on the black market.

directfiesta 09-16-2004 06:46 PM

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Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
Naah... You're right... Saddam was a saint.
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Deaths due to UN sanctions
Initial reports (Lancet 1995) of sanctions causing the deaths of 567,000 Iraqi children were an overestimate. Recent estimates (Richard Garfield) for the cumulative total of excess deaths among children under five between 1990 and 2000 are approximately 350,000.

And I will put a link, which you did not provide ...

http://www.iconservatives.org.uk/rec...war_deaths.htm

Nice going killing children... Be proud

Rochard 09-16-2004 07:13 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta
And I will put a link, which you did not provide ...

http://www.iconservatives.org.uk/rec...war_deaths.htm

Nice going killing children... Be proud

"Nice going killing children"?

Right. Please recall it was Iraq who invaded Kuwait.

And the ten years of sanctions? Blame that on Sadamm and his actions; Not the US, and not the UN.

And the guy who killed this Iraqi... Let him fry too. We are supposed to be the good guys here. Four years in prision is not enough for him.

CET 09-16-2004 07:35 PM

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Originally posted by doober
Yes the good guys, no republican could understand that term anyways since they are all so busy scrambling for ways to make their own bullshit make sense
And democrats differ from that how?

Screaming 09-16-2004 07:40 PM

yikes:(

crockett 09-16-2004 07:43 PM

am I the only one that finds it totally fucked up that the medical examiners kept parts of his body in freezers? WTF is up with that I can understand needing to do a autopsy but WTF do they need to keep the left over parts for?

Dead13 09-16-2004 09:10 PM

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Originally posted by crockett
am I the only one that finds it totally fucked up that the medical examiners kept parts of his body in freezers? WTF is up with that I can understand needing to do a autopsy but WTF do they need to keep the left over parts for?
Happens to me all the time, those damn body parts I just couldnt figure out where they fit into the puzzle. Its kind of like when you put the bike together and there are leftover parts laying around.

You know, they may be useful one day so just stick them in the freezer just incase.

:Graucho

VeriSexy 09-16-2004 09:14 PM

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Originally posted by crockett
am I the only one that finds it totally fucked up that the medical examiners kept parts of his body in freezers? WTF is up with that I can understand needing to do a autopsy but WTF do they need to keep the left over parts for?
Maybe they can be sold on the market for money :helpme Medical research


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