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spamofon 09-14-2004 09:59 AM

FUCK you CANADA!!!
 
Fuck you Canada, and your stupid fucking Laws!!! You piece of shit country!!!!

I am a canadian citizen, and not proud to say that anymore. We brought our grandmother from Ukraine (the last relatvie we have), she is 76. She has no relatvies back in europe, and obviously none to care about her. She had visa for 3 years, and today we got a call, that Canadian would not let her reunite with her family anymore, and wants to deport her back in the midle of nowhere, to abandon an olderly person, which needs support. My family pays more then a 100 000 dollars in taxes a year, and thats what we fucking get !!

FUCK YOU CANADA :ak47: :ak47: :ak47: :ak47:

BradM 09-14-2004 10:01 AM

Just tell them she is Chinese... she will be allowed to stay.

In all seriousness that is pretty horrible dude. I'm sorry to hear that.

Phoenix 09-14-2004 10:02 AM

so dont send her back


put her up with a friend for a few months, and then move her right back into your house

spamofon 09-14-2004 10:03 AM

:feels-hot

They are racist against white people here, i am serious!!!

and she can not stay illigaly, cause in canada, they send a police to your house every month, so they grab you, and put you on the plane!!

TaDoW 09-14-2004 10:03 AM

well now c'mon ... at least she's been there for 3 years ...

if she were here in the states, she would have been dragged into a G Dubya patty wagon and held in an internment camp for the last 3 years without letting her make contact with anyone :thumbsup

skinnay 09-14-2004 10:05 AM

sell her on ebay

CAHEK 09-14-2004 10:06 AM

hide her, so noone will find her

spamofon 09-14-2004 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by skinnay
sell her on ebay
i will sell your mothers pootang on ebay

SlutFinder 09-14-2004 10:09 AM

:(

block 09-14-2004 10:09 AM

That sucks... must be able to get Canadian citizenship for her somehow.

kenny 09-14-2004 10:10 AM

It's Bush's fault.

NiteRain 09-14-2004 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradM
Just tell them she is Chinese... she will be allowed to stay.

In all seriousness that is pretty horrible dude. I'm sorry to hear that.

LOL

JFK 09-14-2004 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by spamofon
:feels-hot

They are racist against white people here, i am serious!!!

and she can not stay illigaly, cause in canada, they send a police to your house every month, so they grab you, and put you on the plane!!

Call the Toronto Sun , and City TV and have them make a human interest story out of it. All the Illegal criminals in this country, and they try and deport a helpless old woman :BangBang:

fris 09-14-2004 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by spamofon
Fuck you Canada, and your stupid fucking Laws!!! You piece of shit country!!!!

I am a canadian citizen, and not proud to say that anymore. We brought our grandmother from Ukraine (the last relatvie we have), she is 76. She has no relatvies back in europe, and obviously none to care about her. She had visa for 3 years, and today we got a call, that Canadian would not let her reunite with her family anymore, and wants to deport her back in the midle of nowhere, to abandon an olderly person, which needs support. My family pays more then a 100 000 dollars in taxes a year, and thats what we fucking get !!

FUCK YOU CANADA :ak47: :ak47: :ak47: :ak47:

no big loss

Phoenix 09-14-2004 10:13 AM

there must be someone you can talk to


this bothers me greatly....if you guys are all legal CDN citizens you should be able to sponsor your grandmother.


get in touch with the local government rep..and start asking questions..there must be someone that has the official say so that you can talk to. i imagine you will have to call no less then 100-150 people before you find the right person..expect to get hassled and turned away, but there is someone sitting at a desk somewhere eating a friggin donut that can help you


i have had to deal with them, just be nice at all times...you will eventually find someone who can steer you down the right path

Platinumpimp 09-14-2004 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by skinnay
sell her on ebay
Show some respect, kiddo. :mad:

LadyMischief 09-14-2004 10:16 AM

That sucks..best of luck keeping her in the country.. Here's a hint though, if you REALLY want to light a fire under their ass, threaten to take it to the media... That will work EVERY time.. and then DO IT if they don't respond.. public outcry will dictate the day.

spamofon 09-14-2004 10:19 AM

thanks guys!!

i ll try to call to local MP and CityTV is a good idea too

lazzlo 09-14-2004 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by spamofon
:feels-hot

They are racist against white people here, i am serious!!!

and she can not stay illigaly, cause in canada, they send a police to your house every month, so they grab you, and put you on the plane!!

I'm not racist and I never sent her back, wtf?

loverboy 09-14-2004 10:20 AM

you have all the reason to shout it out here.

if i was in your shoes, id feel the same way too.

JFK 09-14-2004 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by spamofon
thanks guys!!

i ll try to call to local MP and CityTV is a good idea too

Dont forget the Sun , once they get on a story they dont let go :2 cents:

C-Bass 09-14-2004 10:26 AM

Thats horrible dude. What grounds to they want to send her back on???


not like she's a criminal or anything.....

KRL 09-14-2004 10:26 AM

I'd contact the media to put heat on them for that bullshit.

spamofon 09-14-2004 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Spotter_03
Thats horrible dude. What grounds to they want to send her back on???


not like she's a criminal or anything.....

no grounds! just that a "healthy" 76 years old, can live by herself away from her family

BradM 09-14-2004 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JFK
Call the Toronto Sun , and City TV and have them make a human interest story out of it. All the Illegal criminals in this country, and they try and deport a helpless old woman :BangBang:
Very good idea

Denis_SC 09-14-2004 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by skinnay
sell her on ebay
U fucking stupid asshole !!!! :321GFY

Manowar 09-14-2004 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by skinnay
sell her on ebay
harsh, man

sixxxthsense 09-14-2004 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kenny
It's Bush's fault.

macho 09-14-2004 10:50 AM

This problem is not only in Canada.
Shit happens!

Dead13 09-14-2004 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LadyMischief
That sucks..best of luck keeping her in the country.. Here's a hint though, if you REALLY want to light a fire under their ass, threaten to take it to the media... That will work EVERY time.. and then DO IT if they don't respond.. public outcry will dictate the day.
WRONG!!!

I have been dealing with Canadian Immigration for 2 years now and believe me if you threaten media attention, and even go as far as to alert media they will storm to that house and put grandma on a pane out of the country in 2 minutes with no due process just to prove that they can do it.

Canadain Immigration is now run by the Chinese, if you need proof go to any immigration office, or call immigration, and check out who heads up the whole thing in Ottawa.

Every single person is fucking Chinese and most of them do nto even speak English or French.

They are on a mission to get rid of all white immigrants in Canada so they can overrun the country with their Chinese relatives. Anyone who lives out West or in the Toronto area can verify this fact.

The media will report it, they have done it several times in the last few years, but they have not stopped anyone from being deported, it only makes them more serious about getting it done because they think they are making examples of them.


Dude, if she has been there for 3 years she is eligible to be sponsored by you as a Family Class Immigrant and she is eligible to apply for Canadian citizenship. Talk to your MP and DEMAND help.

Do not get the media involved against Immigration, if youor MP will not help you immediatly get the media involved against your MP to force them to help but DO NOT FUCK WITH IMMIGRATION!

spamofon 09-14-2004 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dead13
WRONG!!!

I have been dealing with Canadian Immigration for 2 years now and believe me if you threaten media attention, and even go as far as to alert media they will storm to that house and put grandma on a pane out of the country in 2 minutes with no due process just to prove that they can do it.

Canadain Immigration is now run by the Chinese, if you need proof go to any immigration office, or call immigration, and check out who heads up the whole thing in Ottawa.

Every single person is fucking Chinese and most of them do nto even speak English or French.

They are on a mission to get rid of all white immigrants in Canada so they can overrun the country with their Chinese relatives. Anyone who lives out West or in the Toronto area can verify this fact.

The media will report it, they have done it several times in the last few years, but they have not stopped anyone from being deported, it only makes them more serious about getting it done because they think they are making examples of them.


Dude, if she has been there for 3 years she is eligible to be sponsored by you as a Family Class Immigrant and she is eligible to apply for Canadian citizenship. Talk to your MP and DEMAND help.

Do not get the media involved against Immigration, if youor MP will not help you immediatly get the media involved against your MP to force them to help but DO NOT FUCK WITH IMMIGRATION!

thanks bro!

by the way you are right about fucking chinese! i live in toronto and i can tell that 70% of people living on my street are fuckign chinese.

and yes, PM is the only hope i have

Rich 09-14-2004 11:12 AM

I agree with Dead13, you'd have a lot better chance if your folks were from China.

OWNED 09-14-2004 11:26 AM

So. . . it's Canada's fault that we don't want someone sucking off of our social system after she never paid a dime into it?

Dead13 09-14-2004 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by spamofon
thanks bro!

by the way you are right about fucking chinese! i live in toronto and i can tell that 70% of people living on my street are fuckign chinese.

and yes, PM is the only hope i have

Anytime, I am always glad to help someone fuck the Chiness Order in Canada :)

Start here....

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/sponsor/index.html

Download the papers and start filling them out. It took me and my wife 3 months to compile all of the information they ask for.

In the mean time stall them by applying for an extension of her current status and if it gets turned down, appeal it with an Attorney.

Just a warning, I have been told be Canadian Immigration that if I were to get an Attorney to represent me I would be immediatly declined, my visitor status would be revoked and I would be deported immediatly. However in my case they have done some illegal things and would be in deep shit if I got an attorney, if you simply use an attorney to file an appeal you should be ok.

And get your MP's attention and demand help. The MP in Kingston helped us out a lot, but beware, they WILL NOT stand up for you. They will help you all you need in private but if it goes public or you need them to pull strings usually they will tell you no.

In the end a very carefully used attorney is all you have, but DO NOT get an immigration attorney. Get someone who is well respected in family law or something because most immigration llawyers are just out to fuck you and they usually do nto knwo anything about immigration law. (in Canada. "immigration attorney" is an oximoron.)

:thumbsup

VeriSexy 09-14-2004 11:30 AM

Get a good lawyer :2 cents:

Dead13 09-14-2004 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by OWNED
So. . . it's Canada's fault that we don't want someone sucking off of our social system after she never paid a dime into it?
Get the facts buddy... In Canada you have to pay income tax even if you do not earn Canadian wages and are not a Canadian citizen, and you still get stuck with 18% of everything you purchase.

Immigrants pay for more than their fare share of your social system even though they have no rights to use it. Once she gets legal status to use it, she has more than paid for her share.

AdnerAdvertising 09-14-2004 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TaDoW
well now c'mon ... at least she's been there for 3 years ...

if she were here in the states, she would have been dragged into a G Dubya patty wagon and held in an internment camp for the last 3 years without letting her make contact with anyone :thumbsup

Totally not true, what a fucking retard.

How about a nice bottle of

http://www.liepins.de/mirrorshades/m...solut_stfu.png

:321GFY

Rich 09-14-2004 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AdnerAdvertising
Totally not true, what a fucking retard.

Oh no, what Tadow described didn't happen to someone in the US under Bush, did it?

Who's the retard?

LadyMischief 09-14-2004 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dead13
WRONG!!!

I have been dealing with Canadian Immigration for 2 years now and believe me if you threaten media attention, and even go as far as to alert media they will storm to that house and put grandma on a pane out of the country in 2 minutes with no due process just to prove that they can do it.

Canadain Immigration is now run by the Chinese, if you need proof go to any immigration office, or call immigration, and check out who heads up the whole thing in Ottawa.

Every single person is fucking Chinese and most of them do nto even speak English or French.

They are on a mission to get rid of all white immigrants in Canada so they can overrun the country with their Chinese relatives. Anyone who lives out West or in the Toronto area can verify this fact.

The media will report it, they have done it several times in the last few years, but they have not stopped anyone from being deported, it only makes them more serious about getting it done because they think they are making examples of them.


Dude, if she has been there for 3 years she is eligible to be sponsored by you as a Family Class Immigrant and she is eligible to apply for Canadian citizenship. Talk to your MP and DEMAND help.

Do not get the media involved against Immigration, if youor MP will not help you immediatly get the media involved against your MP to force them to help but DO NOT FUCK WITH IMMIGRATION!

Maybe in your experience, but last time I made a stink that could have been taken to the media, what was supposed to take 6 weeks was done in 12 hours :)

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RuthXtremePay 09-14-2004 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by spamofon
Fuck you Canada, and your stupid fucking Laws!!! You piece of shit country!!!!

I am a canadian citizen, and not proud to say that anymore. We brought our grandmother from Ukraine (the last relatvie we have), she is 76. She has no relatvies back in europe, and obviously none to care about her. She had visa for 3 years, and today we got a call, that Canadian would not let her reunite with her family anymore, and wants to deport her back in the midle of nowhere, to abandon an olderly person, which needs support. My family pays more then a 100 000 dollars in taxes a year, and thats what we fucking get !!

FUCK YOU CANADA :ak47: :ak47: :ak47: :ak47:

Canadian Immigration truly does suck.. I spent almost 3 years of my life waiting for my papers to be approved and my mother is Canadian!!

From my years of BS with the Canadian Immigration I'd suggest that you get in touch with them and find out about extenuating circumstances allowing for her to stay. There are 'refugee' status and also you can get exceptions made. And you know who you should REALLY get in touch with? THE PRESS

Canadian Immigration Law does allow for humanitarian purposes to let people stay - heck, there are some polygamists here in BC who are trying to use those laws to let the wives stay in Canada LOL.. if they can do it, why can't you?

Make a fuss
Cause a stink
Then the government will have more than just YOU to deal with, especially if you get in touch with some multicultural societies, they often know some cheeky tricks to make things work out.

And given the high dollar amount of taxes you're paying then again, getting in touch with your local mp/mla and also the press will surely make a difference.

Don't just bitch to us, bitch to the whole of Canada!! :feels-hot

Don't let the bastards get you down man.. it's Canada, things are flexible.. and seriously, Canadian Immigration is almost an entity to itself, so don't hate Canada for what their stupid immigration does.. Canada itself is a beautiful country.

ALSO - if you pay over 100,000 in taxes each year, then presumably you make enough income that you can just sponsor her.. a sponsored landed immigrant, you just have to be responsible for her for the next 10 years.. but that shouldn't be a problem given your income, so perhaps try THAT route!

:)

CDSmith 09-14-2004 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fris
no big loss
your mother should have used spermicide.

RuthXtremePay 09-14-2004 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dead13
Anytime, I am always glad to help someone fuck the Chiness Order in Canada :)

Start here....

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/sponsor/index.html

Download the papers and start filling them out. It took me and my wife 3 months to compile all of the information they ask for.

In the mean time stall them by applying for an extension of her current status and if it gets turned down, appeal it with an Attorney.

Just a warning, I have been told be Canadian Immigration that if I were to get an Attorney to represent me I would be immediatly declined, my visitor status would be revoked and I would be deported immediatly. However in my case they have done some illegal things and would be in deep shit if I got an attorney, if you simply use an attorney to file an appeal you should be ok.

And get your MP's attention and demand help. The MP in Kingston helped us out a lot, but beware, they WILL NOT stand up for you. They will help you all you need in private but if it goes public or you need them to pull strings usually they will tell you no.

In the end a very carefully used attorney is all you have, but DO NOT get an immigration attorney. Get someone who is well respected in family law or something because most immigration llawyers are just out to fuck you and they usually do nto knwo anything about immigration law. (in Canada. "immigration attorney" is an oximoron.)

:thumbsup

Dude.. bigotry rarely helps the problem...

As for an attorney/lawyer - it won't affect chances either positively or negatively, that is clearly stated within their documentation, but if they get one, at least they can communicate with someone who presumably understands the law and all the loopholes that are available to Canadian citizens, or wannabe citizens.

No need to cause more problems by getting racist tho, is there? I mean, Canada is a multicultural society and so bringing in another person from the Ukraine shouldn't be a problem, right? Not, hell let's get rid of the Chinese, they're taking over everything...:ugone2far

Spot check, the Chinese people are ubiquitous to ANY nation, they also have huge armies and could totally quash us if they decided to call upon their mass population to do so... just be thankful that the Chinese people are generally good folks who just want to be left alone like the rest of us....

besides....

....

it's the French you need to keep your eye on... ;) (JUST KIDDING!! :winkwink: )

spamofan - get in touch with them and find out what you can do, you are NOT helpless in this situation, but action as usual will speak much louder than words.. so take action, don't just bitch

:thumbsup

groark 09-14-2004 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JFK
Call the Toronto Sun , and City TV and have them make a human interest story out of it. All the Illegal criminals in this country, and they try and deport a helpless old woman :BangBang:
Try that!!!

perverted and proud 09-14-2004 01:13 PM

racist against white people?
haha. do you know how many millions of ukrainians are in canada?
this has nothing to do with race.
nevertheless, that is a shitty deal.

Dirty Dane 09-14-2004 01:18 PM

thats sad. go to the newspapers, they got the power

Dead13 09-14-2004 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RuthXtremePay
Dude.. bigotry rarely helps the problem...

As for an attorney/lawyer - it won't affect chances either positively or negatively, that is clearly stated within their documentation, but if they get one, at least they can communicate with someone who presumably understands the law and all the loopholes that are available to Canadian citizens, or wannabe citizens.

No need to cause more problems by getting racist tho, is there? I mean, Canada is a multicultural society and so bringing in another person from the Ukraine shouldn't be a problem, right? Not, hell let's get rid of the Chinese, they're taking over everything...:ugone2far

Spot check, the Chinese people are ubiquitous to ANY nation, they also have huge armies and could totally quash us if they decided to call upon their mass population to do so... just be thankful that the Chinese people are generally good folks who just want to be left alone like the rest of us....

besides....

....

it's the French you need to keep your eye on... ;) (JUST KIDDING!! :winkwink: )

spamofan - get in touch with them and find out what you can do, you are NOT helpless in this situation, but action as usual will speak much louder than words.. so take action, don't just bitch

:thumbsup


OPEN YOUR EYES!

RuthXtremePay 09-14-2004 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by perverted and proud
racist against white people?
haha. do you know how many millions of ukrainians are in canada?
this has nothing to do with race.
nevertheless, that is a shitty deal.

Nah.. racist against Chinese people cos of what he was saying about Canadian Immigration being owned by the Chinese

And yeah, from the sounds of it it's simply they haven't done their paperwork and immigration says 3 years is long enough with no paperwork.. likelihood is they're just trying to bump them to get everything legitimate. Hopefully it won't be too hard for them and they'll get things sorted out for their gramma.. it always sucks to break families up :(



And Dead13.. I have my eyes open man - this situation sucks for them, but there's still no need to take it down into the gutter, what's the point of that? when you take things into the gutter and spread the shit around then people are less likely to take you seriously and will be more likely to dismiss what you say.. what's the point of that??

rickholio 09-14-2004 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by spamofon
Fuck you Canada, and your stupid fucking Laws!!! You piece of shit country!!!!

I am a canadian citizen, and not proud to say that anymore. We brought our grandmother from Ukraine (the last relatvie we have), she is 76. She has no relatvies back in europe, and obviously none to care about her. She had visa for 3 years, and today we got a call, that Canadian would not let her reunite with her family anymore, and wants to deport her back in the midle of nowhere, to abandon an olderly person, which needs support. My family pays more then a 100 000 dollars in taxes a year, and thats what we fucking get !!

FUCK YOU CANADA :ak47: :ak47: :ak47: :ak47:

Not for nothin, but I've *never* heard of one of these stories without there being more to it than what's being told.

Conspicuously absent from you is an explanation of why. Why hasn't she been accepted? Why are they deporting her?

Without those things we can't come close to understanding the situation, and it all amounts to get sympathy from people who can't be bothered to think critically, or would like to use your situation to further THEIR personal agendas.

sirrobin 09-14-2004 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rickholio
Not for nothin, but I've *never* heard of one of these stories without there being more to it than what's being told.

Conspicuously absent from you is an explanation of why. Why hasn't she been accepted? Why are they deporting her?

Without those things we can't come close to understanding the situation, and it all amounts to get sympathy from people who can't be bothered to think critically, or would like to use your situation to further THEIR personal agendas.

Yes I agree - there seems to be more to this story than is being revealed


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