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Jakke PNG 09-12-2004 06:24 AM

Questions for people who think america is superior
 
Now, why is usa so much better than anyone else? Why do you gloat 24/7/365?

Can someone tell me why I would be better off on a personal level living in the usa compared to say, france, spain or finland?

Bash away, but I'm seriously intrested if any of you have valid answers.

dennisthemenace 09-12-2004 06:26 AM

We have "Freedom Fries" :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Rob 09-12-2004 06:27 AM

Because we're told so by the media and pretty much brainwashed, aka SHEEP. I don't think I'm better than any one of you. Just because we were raised in different cultures surrounded by different beliefs doesn't mean we're better than you or you're better than us.

The media has us all believing that the USA is a juggernaut of Liberty and Freedom when we're really battling ourselves into financial and economic disaster. :2 cents:

TeenGodFather, you got an extra bedroom I can shack up in for a while? :disgust

Jakke PNG 09-12-2004 06:27 AM

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Originally posted by dennisthemenace
We have "Freedom Fries" :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
Shit. :(

Also, I have to admit.. the steaks I had in florida were BIG, succulent and juicy. Better than steaks in france.
But I'm sort of looking a bit better reasons. :)

zvik 09-12-2004 06:28 AM

Cause in a few years from now Europe will be a muslim continent.
laugh as you want but you can already see the first autcome in france.

Jakke PNG 09-12-2004 06:28 AM

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Originally posted by HighOnAcid

TeenGodFather, you got an extra bedroom I can shack up in for a while? :disgust

Nope. But I have a big bed.:Graucho

jimmyf 09-12-2004 06:28 AM

I'm thinking about moving 2 Finland

Roald 09-12-2004 06:29 AM

http://www.bsu.edu/alumni/media/19109/usflag.jpg

Jakke PNG 09-12-2004 06:30 AM

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Originally posted by zvik
Cause in a few years from now Europe will be a muslim continent.
How's that worse than having a mix variety of races in your place? I don't have to interact with the muslims if I don't want to, and not all of them are fucking extremists. That's a very poor reason.
As far as I've understood california isn't exactly aryan either.

Jakke PNG 09-12-2004 06:30 AM

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Originally posted by jimmyf
I'm thinking about moving 2 Finland
Wanna buy my apartment?
I'm planning to move to southern spain. I hate the weather here. :)

Mikey_219Inc 09-12-2004 06:31 AM

because we are indoctrinated from birth to believe so, and our history classes are a joke, and our media is controlled by opinionated rich people.

Rob 09-12-2004 06:32 AM

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Originally posted by TeenGodFather
Nope. But I have a big bed.:Graucho
Bed is Finnish for HOUSE, right? :(

Jakke PNG 09-12-2004 06:33 AM

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Originally posted by HighOnAcid
Bed is Finnish for HOUSE, right? :(
No, bed is finnish for a place where we do dirty things you can't even imagine.

BigPinPin 09-12-2004 06:33 AM

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Originally posted by zvik
Cause in a few years from now Europe will be a muslim continent.
laugh as you want but you can already see the first autcome in france.

I agree, I lived before in germany and all i can say is, that sooner or later it will get a big conflict there for sure....About Europes future i donīt want to think, but itīs very sure, that it will be fucked !!!

Roald 09-12-2004 06:34 AM

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Originally posted by TeenGodFather
Wanna buy my apartment?
I'm planning to move to southern spain. I hate the weather here. :)

no shit, same here!

Roald 09-12-2004 06:35 AM

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Originally posted by BigPinPin
I agree, I lived before in germany and all i can say is, that sooner or later it will get a big conflict there for sure....About Europes future i donīt want to think, but itīs very sure, that it will be fucked !!!
like anywhere else correct? geez

Jakke PNG 09-12-2004 06:35 AM

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Originally posted by QuaShe
no shit, same here!
Yup, as soon as both me and Rita finish school. A few years or so :)

Rob 09-12-2004 06:35 AM

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Originally posted by TeenGodFather
No, bed is finnish for a place where we do dirty things you can't even imagine.
:( I'm stuck in a European Horror Novel. :(

jimmyf 09-12-2004 06:37 AM

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Originally posted by TeenGodFather
Wanna buy my apartment?
I'm planning to move to southern spain. I hate the weather here. :)

you be the expert ( living in Europe ) I might have 2 re-think Finland. Might just join you in Spain.

Jakke PNG 09-12-2004 06:39 AM

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Originally posted by jimmyf
you be the expert ( living in Europe ) I might have 2 re-think Finland. Might just join you in Spain.
Finland has 4 months of very nice weather, and the summers rock. I hate the long, dark and cold winters.
Prices are outrageously high and the high taxes don't help it. But it's safe and relatively clean. :)

zvik 09-12-2004 06:39 AM

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Originally posted by QuaShe
like anywhere else correct? geez
no, cause america will never embrace muslims as europe does, specially after 9-11.

jimmyf 09-12-2004 06:39 AM

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Originally posted by BigPinPin
I agree, I lived before in germany and all i can say is, that sooner or later it will get a big conflict there for sure....About Europes future i donīt want to think, but itīs very sure, that it will be fucked !!!
you know I've thought the same think for some time now. Don't even know if the people know or even think about it.

mcmc 09-12-2004 06:40 AM

im not a US citizen, but if you look at it from the economical point of view, the US is still the superior power in the world.

well, that does not make US people better than anyone else in the world ... and if you look at it in a historical context, it may change again over time (there was a time when France or the UK was the #1). Maybe in 100-200 years China will be the most powerful country on the globe. This stuff is quite dynamic and dont believe that everything will stay the same for all the time. Ya never know.

Rob 09-12-2004 06:40 AM

If I ever moved to Europe I would move to Switzerland. Noone ever fucks with Switzerland! :thumbsup

Jakke PNG 09-12-2004 06:40 AM

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Originally posted by zvik
no, cause america will never embrace muslims as europe does, specially after 9-11.
Never say never.

dennisthemenace 09-12-2004 06:41 AM

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Originally posted by TeenGodFather
Shit. :(

Also, I have to admit.. the steaks I had in florida were BIG, succulent and juicy. Better than steaks in france.
But I'm sort of looking a bit better reasons. :)

You're not going to find them.

This country is as fucked up as any other - we just have fancier stuff to make us look better. It's smoke and mirrors.

We have poverty, homelessness, fighting in our streets just like many other places that we claim to be better than.

HighOnAcid put it very well.

We sit on our fat asses, pointing fingers and making other people wrong and we call it "Patriotism". When much of the time the things we do aren't any better or brighter. :2 cents:

Jakke PNG 09-12-2004 06:42 AM

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Originally posted by mcmc
im not a US citizen, but if you look at it from the economical point of view, the US is still the superior power in the world.

well, that does not make US people better than anyone else in the world ... and if you look at it in a historical context, it may change again over time (there was a time when France or the UK was the #1). Maybe in 100-200 years China will be the most powerful country on the globe. This stuff is quite dynamic and dont believe that everything will stay the same for all the time. Ya never know.

True. But I originally asked:

"Can someone tell me why I would be better off on a personal level living in the usa compared to say, france, spain or finland?"

On personal level it doesn't mean jack shit if your country is an economical power or have the biggest military, unless you want to believe that.

BigPinPin 09-12-2004 06:42 AM

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Originally posted by TeenGodFather
Finland has 4 months of very nice weather, and the summers rock. I hate the long, dark and cold winters.
Prices are outrageously high and the high taxes don't help it. But it's safe and relatively clean. :)

If you like spain, come to us on the canary islands, i live here for a year now and its always like a warm spring and the rest of the world seems to be very far away :)

jimmyf 09-12-2004 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TeenGodFather
Finland has 4 months of very nice weather, and the summers rock. I hate the long, dark and cold winters.
Prices are outrageously high and the high taxes don't help it. But it's safe and relatively clean. :)

I had go play war in Denmark once, if I remember it was daylite for like 20 plus hours per day. So I would guess winter is dark time.

Mikey_219Inc 09-12-2004 06:43 AM

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Originally posted by zvik
no, cause america will never embrace muslims as europe does, specially after 9-11.
I lived in france pre 9/11 and i remember signs on the streets calling arabic people "brown pests" - doesnt sound very embracing.

Rob 09-12-2004 06:43 AM

However I can say, I think I'm better than 3/4th of Europe. I can prove it, too! :thumbsup

Jakke PNG 09-12-2004 06:44 AM

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Originally posted by jimmyf
I had go play war in Denmark once, if I remember it was daylite for like 20 plus hours per day. So I would guess winter is dark time.
Yeah it is. When I used to go to school, I got up and went to school in the dark before the sun rose.. and I got out of school when sun had already set. :(

But summers are nice. It's like 3 hours of darkness :)

Jakke PNG 09-12-2004 06:45 AM

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Originally posted by BigPinPin
If you like spain, come to us on the canary islands, i live here for a year now and its always like a warm spring and the rest of the world seems to be very far away :)
Yeah, as a kid we went to Gran canaria once a year with my mom. it was nice. I don't know if want to move to an island though. :)

Is it more or less expensive to buy a house there than on costa del sol, or costa blanca?

Paul Markham 09-12-2004 06:47 AM

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Originally posted by zvik
Cause in a few years from now Europe will be a muslim continent.
laugh as you want but you can already see the first autcome in france.

And America will be a Latin continent. Have you learnt to speak Spanish yet?

Those in glass houses......................

America is great at many things, food production, industry, commerce are some of them. And it has some faults, education social services, lawyers are some of them.

I lovwe going to the States and would consider retiring there, if I could afford it. That's the other problem, BLOODY EXPENSIVE, well it is for us shopaholics. :1orglaugh

Jakke PNG 09-12-2004 06:49 AM

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Originally posted by charly

I lovwe going to the States and would consider retiring there, if I could afford it. That's the other problem, BLOODY EXPENSIVE, well it is for us shopaholics. :1orglaugh

Don't come to Helsinki if you thought US was expensive (aside from NY and the like). I thought Florida was fucking cheap :)

jimmyf 09-12-2004 06:51 AM

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Originally posted by charly
And America will be a Latin continent. Have you learnt to speak Spanish yet?

Those in glass houses......................

America is great at many things, food production, industry, commerce are some of them. And it has some faults, education social services, lawyers are some of them.

I lovwe going to the States and would consider retiring there, if I could afford it. That's the other problem, BLOODY EXPENSIVE, well it is for us shopaholics. :1orglaugh

You should try in California, around Clear Lake fairly cheap, great social programs, they hung the last 3 lawyers that move there.

Plus you would near you buddy.

jimmyf 09-12-2004 06:53 AM

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Originally posted by TeenGodFather
Don't come to Helsinki if you thought US was expensive (aside from NY and the like). I thought Florida was fucking cheap :)
I really think he wants 2 be near his buddy, :Graucho

Rob 09-12-2004 06:53 AM

Because we won the most Olympic Medals? :batman

mcmc 09-12-2004 06:54 AM

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Originally posted by HighOnAcid
If I ever moved to Europe I would move to Switzerland. Noone ever fucks with Switzerland! :thumbsup
the romans did about 100 AC. Fucking romans ! :1orglaugh

Rob 09-12-2004 06:55 AM

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Originally posted by mcmc
the romans did about 100 AC. Fucking romans ! :1orglaugh
Um, something tells me that I don't have to worry about Roman invasions anymore. I could just be out of the loop, I'm not sure.

mcmc 09-12-2004 06:57 AM

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Originally posted by HighOnAcid
Um, something tells me that I don't have to worry about Roman invasions anymore. I could just be out of the loop, I'm not sure.
LOL :1orglaugh

but why do you think people wont ever fuck with Switzerland ?

zvik 09-12-2004 06:59 AM

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Originally posted by Mikey_219Inc
I lived in france pre 9/11 and i remember signs on the streets calling arabic people "brown pests" - doesnt sound very embracing.
but still 6million muslims today in france, the french will pay for everything 10 years from now, i guess.

Rob 09-12-2004 06:59 AM

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Originally posted by mcmc
LOL :1orglaugh

but why do you think people wont ever fuck with Switzerland ?

I don't know. I'm a history buff (translation; I smoke pot and watch the History channel) and I've never heard of Switzerland being invaded or attacked or bombed or under seige or anything war related. They're a pretty cool country and I wouldn't mind living there. :thumbsup

Va2k 09-12-2004 07:00 AM

USA IS superior to A lot of different places around the world. IMO USA Is what you make of it. There are a lot of places that prolly is better then the usa but as for myself I have never lived outside the usa. Ive gone to Canada thought that was a awesome place. Everywhere has its ups and downs like Canada has free medical as where the usa don't.


I don't belive in going around saying we are better blah blah blah its in the eye of the beholder. *shrugs*

TOM

goBigtime 09-12-2004 07:00 AM

America is great because our leaders are creative, innovative, daring, and willing to make whatever sacrifices are necessary in order to see their plans, and the plans of those they serve, through to the very end.

jimmyf 09-12-2004 07:00 AM

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Originally posted by HighOnAcid
If I ever moved to Europe I would move to Switzerland. Noone ever fucks with Switzerland! :thumbsup
been there
Oh man it's a pretty country, i guess the pretties in Europe. Haven't been 2 all of them but it was by far the pretties, I visited.

goBigtime 09-12-2004 07:03 AM

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Originally posted by HighOnAcid
If I ever moved to Europe I would move to Switzerland. Noone ever fucks with Switzerland! :thumbsup

I may move to Switzerland sometime for a year... I have ridiculous amounts of family there.

Paul Markham 09-12-2004 07:04 AM

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Originally posted by jimmyf
You should try in California, around Clear Lake fairly cheap, great social programs, they hung the last 3 lawyers that move there.

Plus you would near you buddy.

My Mother and brother live in So Cal so I would be close to them as well. No I'm sure there are many places in the US I would be happy to live if I had the money. But I think I will probably buy a house in Thailand and spend the winter months there and the summers in Czech with my wife and child.

But thanks for the offer. Good move with the lawyers.

Quote:

"Can someone tell me why I would be better off on a personal level living in the usa compared to say, france, spain or finland?"
If you're rich living in the US would probably be a little better. If you're poor it would not. However I support my retired Mum and she reckons it's cheaper to live in So Cal then Europe, she's on a middle income bracket.

I guess it's what you're used to.

mcmc 09-12-2004 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by goBigtime
I may move to Switzerland sometime for a year... I have ridiculous amounts of family there.
where? region?

Rob 09-12-2004 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mcmc
where? region?
The Mountains? :glugglug


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