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Tipsy 09-08-2004 01:43 PM

Nastydollars not accepting TGP traffic?
 
Sorry if this is old news or posted about to death before but with no search function....

Just flicking through the TOS of nastydollars in a quiet moment and came across this...

11. AGE VERIFICATION
The SITE takes a strong stance in favor of preventing minors from accessing sexually-oriented materials. Accordingly, all images, web pages, or tours depicting sexual activity must be protected by some form of legal age verification. Therefore, the SITE adopts the following policies with regard to online age verification: (1) Webmaster must prevent users from accessing images depicting sexual activity (i.e. hardcore images) unless the user has passed through the Birth Date Verifier? online age verification form; or, through some other type of SITE-approved online age verification device that complies with the requirements of the Child Online Protection Act, (?COPA?); or (2) Alternatively, users must be restricted to accessing pages or content, or Material containing only soft core (i.e. no sexual activity or explicit display of the genitals) materials, which content will be separately identified and provided by the SITE. Violation of this age verification requirement will be considered a material breach, and grounds for automatic termination of this Agreement.


Which I take to mean that if you push nastydollars using TGP or freesite traffic that's not to a softcore gallery OR even use many of the banners they provide it can in theory be grounds for terming your account. Now I'm presuming they don't as a rule do so or there'd be a lot of pissed of people but seems a dodgy rule to have in any TOS.

No beef with nastydollars. As I say just strikes me as a very strange rule all things considered.

Pud 09-08-2004 01:50 PM

good post ....anyone here from nastydollars?

Spunky 09-08-2004 01:51 PM

Really...hmmmm :(

Dagwolf 09-08-2004 01:52 PM

Maybe they're just covering their asses.

Reak 09-08-2004 01:52 PM

they never missed my checks :2 cents:

steve90 09-08-2004 01:53 PM

is that somthing new that was added recently or has that always been a part of their TOS

pussyluver 09-08-2004 01:54 PM

That would be a tuff one to enforce.

Think of all the revenue from TGPs for ND.

Would luv to hear a comment from them on this.

Manowar 09-08-2004 02:09 PM

When was that added ?

Tipsy 09-08-2004 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Manowar
When was that added ?
Been wondering the same as although I've not noticed it before I may simply have just skimmed them and missed it. Maybe tied in to some sort of knee jerk regarding the new 2257 rules when they kick in? *shrug*

rabbit 09-08-2004 02:12 PM

rumours are that enforcement of this clause is being considered. not only by nasty, but other sponsors as well.

Tipsy 09-08-2004 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by carbondream
rumours are that enforcement of this clause is being considered. not only by nasty, but other sponsors as well.
But they are just rumours at the moment. They need to be clarified as rules like this being enforced for whatever reason would obviously have a HUGE impact. If (or rather when seems more liekly) the new 2257 stuff kicks in things will have to change. However, this is going several steps further.

seeric 09-08-2004 02:18 PM

look for alot more of this kind of thing real quick is my guess.

the Shemp 09-08-2004 02:25 PM

cya

Doctor Dre 09-08-2004 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dagwolf
Maybe they're just covering their asses.
And not enforcing it :P

Tipsy 09-08-2004 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Doctor Dre
And not enforcing it :P
Thing is it then becomes worrying in case they decide to enforce it. After all it's in the TOS so they are perfectly entitled to. Doesn't affect me much as I'm not pushung ND at the moment but I'd imagine anyone who is would rather not find a huge amount of their galleries and/or sites suddenly put them in breach of the terms.

Doctor Dre 09-08-2004 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by carbondream
rumours are that enforcement of this clause is being considered. not only by nasty, but other sponsors as well.
How do you get traffic nowdays ?

tgp
mailing
SEO (blackhat ... spamming SEs)
free site

what else ?

BlueQuartz 09-08-2004 02:50 PM

lol dont be stupid how could they enforce that?????????

Tipsy 09-08-2004 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BlueQuartz
lol dont be stupid how could they enforce that?????????
Why is it being stupid? The rule exists. Surely the fact that it exists is then 'stupid' and not asking about it.

It doesn't even 'cover their own backs' for anything, as a rule that is never enforced although it easily could be and despite knowledge of countless people breaking it, protects them from nothing. For it to mean anything in any kind of legal situation they would have to be seen to be enforcing it.

Again - I'm just curious why it's there at all and when/if it will ever be enforced. And again - if it's never going to be enforced what on earth is the reason for it exisiting?

The Other Steve 09-08-2004 02:57 PM

I find this bit of #11 interesting:

Quote:

or Material containing only soft core (i.e. no sexual activity or explicit display of the genitals) materials, which content will be separately identified and provided by the SITE.
Because I was at their site yesterday looking at their sponsor content and there was nothing there that even remotely looked like what they are talking about here.

The Other Steve 09-08-2004 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BlueQuartz
lol dont be stupid how could they enforce that?????????
Gotta love this industry - a short term flea calling a long term webmaster stupid ... what better way to reveal your true potential :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Basic_man 09-08-2004 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dagwolf
Maybe they're just covering their asses.
Yeah, probably !

GatorB 09-08-2004 03:04 PM

COPA isn't law yet. And hopefuly won't be. So WHY should anyone be asked to follow it?

Tipsy 09-08-2004 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Basic_man
Yeah, probably !
Read above. Shouldn't be difficult even for someone who's only reason for being here is to sig whore.

BlueQuartz 09-08-2004 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Other Steve
Gotta love this industry - a short term flea calling a long term webmaster stupid ... what better way to reveal your true potential :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
im laughing more than you cockhead - you really are a fucking idiot if you think post count is a reflection of my time in the biz


you keep posting stevey im going to count the c0in G

Tuna 09-08-2004 03:41 PM

wow thats very interesting. i would hope its just there to cover their asses

cosis 09-08-2004 04:22 PM

Considering they make tons of free hosted galleries every week I don't think they are enforcing it too much :)

polish_aristocrat 09-08-2004 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by carbondream
rumours are that enforcement of this clause is being considered. not only by nasty, but other sponsors as well.
that would be suddenly very interesting to see sponsors who've been creating lots of hosted galleres in nrecent two years to suddenly ban traffic frokm TGP's. To be honest, i can't see it happening. :warning

The Other Steve 09-08-2004 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BlueQuartz
im laughing more than you cockhead - you really are a fucking idiot if you think post count is a reflection of my time in the biz


you keep posting stevey im going to count the c0in G

It shouldn't take you long.

nastyman 09-08-2004 04:31 PM

tgp traffic is fine. if you have any specific questions just email [email protected]

Tipsy 09-08-2004 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nastyman
tgp traffic is fine. if you have any specific questions just email [email protected]
Wouldn't it be better to post the answer for all who push you to see? Just a suggestion.

The question(s) is pretty simple. Why the rule, are you ever going to enforce it and if you don't ever enforce it what's the point as it certainly doesn't 'cover your back' in that scenario as many suggest.

Genuinely not trying to be awkward just badly want to know for two reasons. Firstly if I start sending traffic and secondly in case others start copying in their TOS.

Mikey_219Inc 09-08-2004 04:57 PM

any of you ever heard of this:

Communications Decency Act

soner or later everyone is going to have to follow it, and thats good news as far as im concerned because people will have to pay for the good stuff.

:2 cents:

Tipsy 09-08-2004 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mikey_219Inc
any of you ever heard of this:

Communications Decency Act

soner or later everyone is going to have to follow it, and thats good news as far as im concerned because people will have to pay for the good stuff.

:2 cents:

The worlds a small place these days and not all subject to US laws so it's not that simple.

Has little to do though with the questions asked as at the moment people DO use hardcore material outside of protected areas. I'd even say that the huge majority of ND's and other sponsors affilate traffic comes from hardcore pages not following the guidlines.

Mikey_219Inc 09-08-2004 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy
The worlds a small place these days and not all subject to US laws so it's not that simple.

Has little to do though with the questions asked as at the moment people DO use hardcore material outside of protected areas. I'd even say that the huge majority of ND's and other sponsors affilate traffic comes from hardcore pages not following the guidlines.

well, since i was off topic once, i might as well once again - i really wish they would spend american tax dollars fighting terrorism and on worthwile shit instead of this stupid crap - one thing i do know is that every nd site is registered with rsca so if parents want to protect kids they can - but what is worse for a kid to see, a pussy made by god / nature? or 100+ dead russian kids ... and why do we have a no negotiate with terrorists policy, but tell moscow to negotiate with chechnya?

this fucking country needs to get its priorities in line. im moving to mexico.

sorry for the off topic blather - post hurricane stress disorder.

edit= IRCA not rsca - wtf is rsca?

Fabien 09-08-2004 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Doctor Dre
How do you get traffic nowdays ?

tgp
mailing
SEO (blackhat ... spamming SEs)
free site

what else ?

Wouen ?

(yeah ?)

http 09-08-2004 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cosis
Considering they make tons of free hosted galleries every week I don't think they are enforcing it too much :)

They are at 3000 and a few galleries right now and keep making new ones

From all sponsors out there ND gets EASILY the most tgp traffic I am sure


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