Paypal & the 2.9% - do you charge for this?

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  • stevecore
    Confirmed User
    • May 2003
    • 6130

    #1

    Paypal & the 2.9% - do you charge for this?

    When a customer pays by paypal, do you add in the cost of the 2.9% fee? The way I look at it now is no, but lately i've been thinking you buy something from any store you get hit with a sales tax of 5% or more depending where you are. In Cali its 8%, so if anything 2.9% doesn't seem too bad but I still don't like the thought of quoting a price then when the job is finished, saying "Oh... if you're paying by paypal, i need to charge you 2.9% more.

    Your thoughts?
  • JakeR
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    • Jun 2001
    • 1760

    #2
    it's a cost of doing business.
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    • Steen2
      Confirmed User
      • Feb 2004
      • 7662

      #3
      You can add it into all your prices, sure. But don't add it on as a extra charge when checking out. That will piss customers off.

      No I don't charge for it, I'm happy with the prices people pay me currently.
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      • JakeR
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        • Jun 2001
        • 1760

        #4
        It's not like grocery stores, malls etc tack on an extra 1.4% when you use a credit card vs. cash even tho they have to pay the percentage for thier merchant acct
        Last edited by JakeR; 09-04-2004, 03:42 PM.
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        • EviLGuY
          So Fucking Banned
          • Apr 2003
          • 12745

          #5
          Originally posted by stevecore
          When a customer pays by paypal, do you add in the cost of the 2.9% fee? The way I look at it now is no, but lately i've been thinking you buy something from any store you get hit with a sales tax of 5% or more depending where you are. In Cali its 8%, so if anything 2.9% doesn't seem too bad but I still don't like the thought of quoting a price then when the job is finished, saying "Oh... if you're paying by paypal, i need to charge you 2.9% more.

          Your thoughts?
          Nah I hate nickel and diming people.. I just figure the 2.9% in when I give someone a price.

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          • GTS Mark
            Vrume Mark
            • Jan 2001
            • 20912

            #6
            Yep cost of doing business

            Paypal makes big bucks off me

            DH

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            • JakeR
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              • Jun 2001
              • 1760

              #7
              Originally posted by DrinkingHard
              Yep cost of doing business

              Paypal makes big bucks off me

              DH
              switch over to a merchant account
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              • X37375787

                #8
                Originally posted by DrinkingHard
                Yep cost of doing business

                Paypal makes big bucks off me

                DH

                is there not other alternatives that would rob you off less money?

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                • stevecore
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                  • May 2003
                  • 6130

                  #9
                  Originally posted by DrinkingHard
                  Yep cost of doing business

                  Paypal makes big bucks off me

                  DH
                  If I did do it... you're the only one I wouldn't charge ;)

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                  • xclusive
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                    • Apr 2004
                    • 35218

                    #10
                    I just include it in the final price it's the best thing to do...

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                    • GTS Mark
                      Vrume Mark
                      • Jan 2001
                      • 20912

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Equinox
                      is there not other alternatives that would rob you off less money?
                      Well most webmasters want to pay via PP, so we keep that open as an option, but we also accept epassporte, bank wires, money orders and for our best customers cheques.

                      DH

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                      • GTS Mark
                        Vrume Mark
                        • Jan 2001
                        • 20912

                        #12
                        Originally posted by stevecore
                        If I did do it... you're the only one I wouldn't charge ;)
                        Awww I can feel the love in here

                        DH

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                        • Steen2
                          Confirmed User
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 7662

                          #13
                          Originally posted by DrinkingHard
                          Yep cost of doing business

                          Paypal makes big bucks off me

                          DH
                          Paypal is pretty damn cheap for US/Canadians!
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                          • GTS Mark
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                            • Jan 2001
                            • 20912

                            #14
                            Originally posted by JakeR
                            switch over to a merchant account
                            We have credit card processing now, but they charge us like 7%

                            When you have a 20% profit margin, 7% hurts!!!

                            DH

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                            • Sly_RJ
                              Live Hard - Die Hard
                              • Feb 2002
                              • 17042

                              #15
                              I've had people charge me and others that don't. Personally I think it's very tacky and rude to charge the client for the transaction.

                              Steve you mentioned paying sales tax at the grocery store. This isn't the same situation. If the grocery store charged you extra for using your CC then it would be the same situation.

                              It's a cost of doing business. If you're losing too much from processing fees maybe you need to adjust your prices.
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                              • JakeR
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                                • Jun 2001
                                • 1760

                                #16
                                Originally posted by DrinkingHard
                                We have credit card processing now, but they charge us like 7%

                                When you have a 20% profit margin, 7% hurts!!!

                                DH
                                7% on an advertising site? I think you need to shoot me an ICQ tuesday.
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                                • tootie
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                                  • Jun 2003
                                  • 6041

                                  #17
                                  I don't. PayPal's percentage is pretty small in the grand scheme of things. If they charged more than they do, then I would probably have to pass that along to customers, but since their fees are so reasonable, I don't really feel the need to do so.

                                  As a side note, my car insurance company recently started charging an extra fee if you pay by credit card because they said the CC companies charge so much for their services. Walmart also told us recently that they may start adding a fee onto Mastercard purchases because of high fees. There was a few weeks when our local Walmart wouldn't take them at all.


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                                  • freeadultcontent
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                                    • Oct 2002
                                    • 9976

                                    #18
                                    paypal fee's nah would not tack them on. I often even ask the person what is the cheapest way to pay them on their end as well as mine. By the way it comes to almost break even if you make purchases as well as sell stuff. Just use your paypal debit card when making the purchase and your cash back even's it out almost.

                                    Now I would charge for a few other payment options. WU, wire's, or anything that would be over 4.9% of the fee.

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                                    • stevecore
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                                      • May 2003
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Sly_RJ
                                      I've had people charge me and others that don't. Personally I think it's very tacky and rude to charge the client for the transaction.

                                      Steve you mentioned paying sales tax at the grocery store. This isn't the same situation. If the grocery store charged you extra for using your CC then it would be the same situation.

                                      It's a cost of doing business. If you're losing too much from processing fees maybe you need to adjust your prices.
                                      I guess what I was trying to get across that outside of our business, most people would go ahead and charge a tax on their service/product for tax. I don't, so in the end when tax time comes around I will owe for not only for the tax I am not including but taking a small hit for not including this since my invoices show what I billed the client. that is what the govt. will see when it's actually X amount of dollars minus 2.9% that i realistically grossed. considering that 99% of my clients pay by paypal, take my annual salary and minus 2.9%, thats a few thousand that are just gone just for being nice and excluding it.

                                      my prices are already cheap...maybe i do need to readjust prices...

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                                      • freeadultcontent
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Oct 2002
                                        • 9976

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by stevecore
                                        I guess what I was trying to get across that outside of our business, most people would go ahead and charge a tax on their service/product for tax. I don't, so in the end when tax time comes around I will owe for not only for the tax I am not including but taking a small hit for not including this since my invoices show what I billed the client. that is what the govt. will see when it's actually X amount of dollars minus 2.9%. considering that 99% of my clients pay by paypal, take my annual salary and minus 2.9%, thats a few thousand that are just gone just for being nice and excluding it.

                                        my prices are already cheap...maybe i do need to readjust prices...
                                        it is deductable.

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                                        • stevecore
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                                          • May 2003
                                          • 6130

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by freeadultcontent
                                          it is deductable.
                                          ok, cool. i leave most of this stuff up to my accountant, she's great. i would be screwed without her.

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                                          • GTS Mark
                                            Vrume Mark
                                            • Jan 2001
                                            • 20912

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by JakeR
                                            7% on an advertising site? I think you need to shoot me an ICQ tuesday.
                                            Sure, can I get my accounting person to contact you in regards to this? What is your e-mail?

                                            DH

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