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Libertine 09-04-2004 10:52 AM

A question for all the Americans on this board
 
:glugglug

MandyBlake 09-04-2004 10:59 AM

A republic...more accurately, and what they taught us in high school, a democratic republic.

dennisthemenace 09-04-2004 11:02 AM

"and to the republic for which it stands"


We've been programmed since birth to say/think that.

Corona 09-04-2004 11:03 AM

How about another option:

None of the above

Libertine 09-04-2004 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MandyBlake
A republic...more accurately, and what they taught us in high school, a democratic republic.
A democratic republic is both a democracy and a republic. The term "republic" can include democracies, while the term "democracy" can include republics.
Since the USA doesn't have a monarch as the head of state and the supreme power lies in the votes of a body of citizens, it's a republic, since it uses a democratic system but also has a constitution guaranteeing essential liberties, it's a liberal democracy, and since it uses a model of representation rather than direct participation, it's also a representative democracy.

masterE 09-04-2004 11:18 AM

We are a republic with an electoral college.

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Electoral college, Under Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution, each state chooses electors in the same number that the state has senators and representatives. The electors have the discretion to choose the candidate they vote for, but in practice the electors vote for the candidate that wins the most votes in their respective states. In all the states except Maine, the candidate that wins a plurality of the popular votes wins all of the state's electoral votes.
Here is some defenitions for the confused
Democracy
Republic

AaronM 09-04-2004 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dennisthemenace
"and to the republic for which it stands"


We've been programmed since birth to say/think that.

We the people.....Have been programmed since birth to say and think a lot of things.

MandyBlake 09-04-2004 11:21 AM

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Originally posted by punkworld
A democratic republic is both a democracy and a republic. The term "republic" can include democracies, while the term "democracy" can include republics.
Since the USA doesn't have a monarch as the head of state and the supreme power lies in the votes of a body of citizens, it's a republic, since it uses a democratic system but also has a constitution guaranteeing essential liberties, it's a liberal democracy, and since it uses a model of representation rather than direct participation, it's also a representative democracy.

Ok....I didn't exactly come from one of the US's finer secondary education systems, so they could have been wrong.
Although what they meant in saying "democratic republic" was that the people voted (as in democracy) for a leader (republic). :)

Libertine 09-04-2004 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by masterE
We are a republic with an electoral college.

Here is some defenitions for the confused
Democracy
Republic

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representative_democracy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_democracy

Libertine 09-04-2004 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MandyBlake
Ok....I didn't exactly come from one of the US's finer secondary education systems, so they could have been wrong.
Although what they meant in saying "democratic republic" was that the people voted (as in democracy) for a leader (republic). :)

Well, that's pretty much what is the case. A democratic republic is like a female stripper... she's both a woman and a stripper, not either/or.

Libertine 09-04-2004 01:15 PM

The votes so far kinda scare me. Democracy needs voters to be educated to be effective.

slapass 09-04-2004 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by punkworld
The votes so far kinda scare me. Democracy needs voters to be educated to be effective.
Indirect democracy is how it was defined when I was younger which seems to fit the defintion of a Republic. I never could understand that destinction.

Kalifornia 09-04-2004 02:50 PM

a republic

Tala 09-04-2004 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Corona
How about another option:

None of the above

:glugglug

Libertine 09-04-2004 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by slapass
Indirect democracy is how it was defined when I was younger which seems to fit the defintion of a Republic. I never could understand that destinction.
A republic (from the Latin "res publica", or "thing of the people") is a state not governed by a monarch but by a collective of people. Often such a collective will be elected democratically, but that isn't necessarily the case. An oligarchic republic, for instance, is also possible.

A representative - or indirect - democracy is a form of democracy in which voters elect people to govern the country. Many representative democracies are republics, but it isn't necessary. There are also monarchies which are representative democracies.

They are two completely different things, which happen to go together often.

dennisthemenace 09-04-2004 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM
We the people.....Have been programmed since birth to say and think a lot of things.
exactly what I'm sayin' man :thumbsup

TurboTrucker 09-04-2004 03:21 PM

If this is the question, the answer is :thumbsup

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Originally posted by punkworld
:glugglug

Corona 09-04-2004 11:24 PM

I would call it an oligarky.

When Jeb Bush is president you will know what I mean.

Steen2 09-04-2004 11:25 PM

I'm Kanadain.

freeadultcontent 09-04-2004 11:29 PM

quasi represented democracy with socialists overtones at federal level. Go lower in Government and the wierder it gets.

I think socialist democracy where the majority is the minority at both the controlling levels and the voting levels.

pornguy 09-04-2004 11:32 PM

Since Bush took over I think we need to call it a clusterfuck!

Manowar 09-05-2004 01:29 AM

Republic

Pornweaver 09-05-2004 01:31 AM

A dictatorship, ruled by the iron fist of political agendas and secret handshakes.

Corona 09-05-2004 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pornguy
Since Bush took over I think we need to call it a clusterfuck!
:1orglaugh

pure energy 09-05-2004 07:02 PM

A liberal democracy

Webby 09-05-2004 07:06 PM

Do we actually have to have a vote on this??

Don't we know?? :1orglaugh

Or even what it may be "claimed to be"??

OK.. Will wait till the votes are in so we can spread the word to other nations :-)

Libertine 09-05-2004 07:26 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
Do we actually have to have a vote on this??

Don't we know?? :1orglaugh

Looking at the votes, apparently not.


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