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Mr. Marks 09-03-2004 12:14 AM

Verotel vs. CCBill
 
What's your choice and Why?

DickShoke 09-03-2004 12:25 AM

Both are good..but if i had to chose only one it would be CCBill....

easy backend administrative interface is the reason


are two reasons....

reynold 09-03-2004 12:26 AM

neither

EviLGuY 09-03-2004 12:26 AM

No contest.. CCBill.. at least with them you know you have a decent chance of them not going under in the near future.

Mr. Marks 09-03-2004 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DickShoke
Both are good..but if i had to chose only one it would be CCBill....

easy backend administrative interface is the reason


are two reasons....

Does their system accommodate Build Your Own Tour type systems?

WWC 09-03-2004 12:28 AM

CCbill....someone i know was processing with them and they kept all their funds and they are offshore....i just dont trust any processor offshore.... and besides at www.AdultLounge.com we use CCBill as secondary processor in our cascading software

Mr. Marks 09-03-2004 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AdultLoungeRaffi
CCbill....someone i know was processing with them and they kept all their funds and they are offshore....i just dont trust any processor offshore.... and besides at www.AdultLounge.com we use CCBill as secondary processor in our cascading software
Damn good reason, actually.

Hentaikid 09-03-2004 05:58 AM

I checked my ratios and one site I promote with verotel, at 7.5$ per signup has made me as much money as all the ccbill sites I promote put together...

Royal Cash 09-03-2004 07:40 AM

ccbill of course!

strobi 09-03-2004 09:14 AM

Alot of people report better ratios with verotel. Never used them thought.

Shoplifter 09-03-2004 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hentaikid
I checked my ratios and one site I promote with verotel, at 7.5$ per signup has made me as much money as all the ccbill sites I promote put together...
CCBill sells really well but Verotel is goin through a mad conversion phase.

All those newbs who think PPS is the way to go should try a Verotel program for high conversions and best of all long term retention and stability. Try my sig if you like to rebill.

chupacabra 09-03-2004 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shoplifter
CCBill sells really well but Verotel is goin through a mad conversion phase.

All those newbs who think PPS is the way to go should try a Verotel program for high conversions and best of all long term retention and stability. Try my sig if you like to rebill.

have to second that, Verotel has been kicking ass and taking names lately... this week in particular was just killer, 1hr 3min left for the weekly pay period..!

mrgica 09-03-2004 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chupacabra
have to second that, Verotel has been kicking ass and taking names lately... this week in particular was just killer, 1hr 3min left for the weekly pay period..!
funny that you say that cause this week was a record for me, most sales. :glugglug
Strange?!?

chupacabra 09-03-2004 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrgica
funny that you say that cause this week was a record for me, most sales. :glugglug
Strange?!?

i know, looking back at this same week for the last couple of years i can affirm this is a record week for new sales as well at my end, very pleased w/ this weeks numbers across the board..!

gxer 09-03-2004 04:43 PM

Verotel Rocks

axelcat 09-03-2004 04:43 PM

ccbill

Dailydiapers 09-04-2004 07:43 PM

Ever since the pro/ticketsclub split my Veortel sales have been steadily growing. They just needed some of the dead-weight off their payment gateway.

Veterans Day 09-04-2004 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EviLGuY
No contest.. CCBill.. at least with them you know you have a decent chance of them not going under in the near future.
People been sayin verotel is gonna die for years now :1orglaugh Verotel does convert 2:1 over ccbill in my experiences

Dirty Dane 09-04-2004 09:49 PM

After Verotel blew off majority of the affiliates 5 months ago, the way they did it, and not even responded on the emails they said we should send if we felt that was an error, I trust them 0 %. I will NEVER NEVER NEVER promote a verotel program again!

Wonder if we get our 6-months "holdbacks" paid out in october? Doubt so....
...and all webmaster I'm in contact with, also newbies, I tell them to stay away. :321GFY

fr8 09-04-2004 11:49 PM

Verotel is one way to save money. Havnt used them though.

spooky181 09-05-2004 03:31 AM

I have used both and Verotel wins by a country mile...:)

twist 09-05-2004 03:55 AM

I can't believe someone says Verotel after what they did some months ago. They promoted underage shit and once they paniced they shut down affiliated for no reason.

:321GFY

body 09-05-2004 04:51 AM

Ibill :thumbsup

lock 09-05-2004 06:13 AM

With ccbill you can have hosted galleries where the webmasters can link into the site anywhere
http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...tlingcom/tour/

However with verotel you need to use a banner code to link and direct linking to hosted galleries is not possible.

gxer 09-05-2004 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lock
With ccbill you can have hosted galleries where the webmasters can link into the site anywhere
http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...tlingcom/tour/

However with verotel you need to use a banner code to link and direct linking to hosted galleries is not possible.

Go to Modelsinlove.com and check webmasters-->
Marketing Tolls section. And see how the hosteds was implemented there.

It's simple to make a links for hosteds within 5 mins.

polish_aristocrat 09-05-2004 08:51 AM

Verotel - people say it converts better, but CCbill has a better reputation.

justsexxx 09-05-2004 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gxer
Go to Modelsinlove.com and check webmasters-->
Marketing Tolls section. And see how the hosteds was implemented there.

It's simple to make a links for hosteds within 5 mins.


http://links.verotel.com/cgi-bin/sho...34567891234567

Is this because the ID I entered is fake/wrong or?

Andre

rowan 09-05-2004 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gxer
Go to Modelsinlove.com and check webmasters-->
Marketing Tolls section. And see how the hosteds was implemented there.

It's simple to make a links for hosteds within 5 mins.

Not Found

The requested URL /webmasters.html was not found on this server.
Apache/2.0.46 (Red Hat) Server at www.modelsinlove.com Port 80


?

Manowar 09-05-2004 09:21 AM

CCBill :thumbsup

Sausage 09-05-2004 09:36 AM

Verotel hands down.

I get 3 times the sales with Verotel when I ran them and CCBill next to eachother for a few hundred joins same traffic. That and their wire is always sent on time and arrives in my account that same day. Getting 1:8 ratios on the join page for the last 3 months!

CCBill has affiliate tracking problems, and scrubs too hard.

Epoch is also good if you don't need email support quicker than 2-3 weeks and have a programmer who can make up a front end and decypher their rather cryptic setup.

rowan 09-05-2004 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sausage
Verotel hands down.

I get 3 times the sales with Verotel when I ran them and CCBill next to eachother for a few hundred joins same traffic. That and their wire is always sent on time and arrives in my account that same day. Getting 1:8 ratios on the join page for the last 3 months!

Just want to correct you there: it's not actually a join page ratio, it's a signup form ratio. :)

join page = I'm reading your sales pitch
signup page = I want to enter my card details

EscortDate_Enoj 09-05-2004 09:43 AM

We've used Verotel as our main processor for a while and we are very satisfied with them.

They also have great support and always respond quickly.

However, they have some quite limited services. For example, if you want to have different membership types for the same webpage (say regular membership and VIP membership), you would need to modify the PERL script (verotelrum.pl on our server which is used by Verotel to manage the password file(s)) manually, and make it write "subscription name" in addition to username and encrypted password.

It's doable, but not good nor easy to implement.

I don't know how CCBill handles such features, so I can't compare them.

Also, since we are located in Norway we prefer a european biller.

Sausage 09-05-2004 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rowan
Just want to correct you there: it's not actually a join page ratio, it's a signup form ratio. :)

join page = I'm reading your sales pitch
signup page = I want to enter my card details

I stand corrected rowan :)
But i would say signup page = "I want to either enter my credit card info, or I want to try to see if I can get in without it" ;)

Compared to my 1:38 CCbill join page (click through to the join page) ratio, I think thats still pretty damn good ! :)

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Kicker 09-06-2004 11:36 AM

CCbill:thumbsup

mrgica 09-06-2004 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gxer
Go to Modelsinlove.com and check webmasters-->
Marketing Tolls section. And see how the hosteds was implemented there.

It's simple to make a links for hosteds within 5 mins.

Nice job there! Im know nothing about php.
So I must ask you what kind of script do you use for this?
It must be simple?!?

Shoplifter 09-06-2004 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrgica
Nice job there! Im know nothing about php.
So I must ask you what kind of script do you use for this?
It must be simple?!?

You can do this with SSI very quickly. All ithas to do is pass the reseller ID to the page. php is not required at all.

HarlotCash Dyker 09-06-2004 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortDate_Enoj
We've used Verotel as our main processor for a while and we are very satisfied with them.

They also have great support and always respond quickly.

However, they have some quite limited services. For example, if you want to have different membership types for the same webpage (say regular membership and VIP membership), you would need to modify the PERL script (verotelrum.pl on our server which is used by Verotel to manage the password file(s)) manually, and make it write "subscription name" in addition to username and encrypted password.

It's doable, but not good nor easy to implement.

I don't know how CCBill handles such features, so I can't compare them.

Also, since we are located in Norway we prefer a european biller.


They have good support?

No they do not - Their staff are simply not trained to do their jobs properly -
I used them for back up on a smaller site to try them out. I was actually thinking of moving everything over to them - I had a problem and lost their details and emailed them (using the same email) The guy asked for proof - So I gave him our cc number we used when signing up - (Right - now he has our cc number and can verify our email address)
Not enough - We get canned and lose our cash - Then we are told they didn't know the system and they only needed the email verification -
Bunch of amateurs

gxer 09-06-2004 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rowan
Not Found

The requested URL /webmasters.html was not found on this server.
Apache/2.0.46 (Red Hat) Server at www.modelsinlove.com Port 80


?

Yep, fixed now.

gxer 09-06-2004 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by justsexxx
http://links.verotel.com/cgi-bin/sho...34567891234567

Is this because the ID I entered is fake/wrong or?

Andre

Yes, because of fake ID.
It will work only with ID of real reseller.

gxer 09-06-2004 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrgica
Nice job there! Im know nothing about php.
So I must ask you what kind of script do you use for this?
It must be simple?!?

let me know if you need help with this, i'll give you code example

Shoplifter 09-06-2004 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gxer
let me know if you need help with this, i'll give you code example
Can you hit me on ICQ?

17249164

:glugglug

frish 09-06-2004 04:53 PM

CCBill


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